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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
Hopefully (if he’s playing well ) we can resign Barrie in the new year and not have to wait until July 1. It will be a little bit of a let down if he leaves after this season.
- Garnie


Kadri is our DeRozan .....it's happening.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
Kadri is our DeRozan .....it's happening.
- The Law

i like it, but barrie is not our leonard
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
so... serious questions....
1) which teams are going to be ones with GMs on the hot seat going into the season - aside from Kekäläinen?
2) which team(s) will have the greatest need for scoring?


I'm trying to come up with the most logical locations to which to trade Nylander ... assuming he's lighting it up in the first 1/4 of the season?

- BorjeFan4Ever


I doubt he gets traded unless it’s Nashville. JMO
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:31 PM ET
Last 3 years are negative on the analytics side, but hopefully playing with Muzzin that will straighten him out.
- Garnie


I hope so.

Worst case scenario, as said, is move him to the 3rd pairing, and shelter him from tougher competition.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:32 PM ET
so... serious questions....
1) which teams are going to be ones with GMs on the hot seat going into the season - aside from Kekäläinen?
2) which team(s) will have the greatest need for scoring?


I'm trying to come up with the most logical locations to which to trade Nylander ... assuming he's lighting it up in the first 1/4 of the season?

- BorjeFan4Ever



Bob Murray in Anaheim?

Nylander for Lindholm
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:34 PM ET
They can play out the season and see what shapes out. In February they re-assess and look to add a veteran D if they need it. Muzzin, Rielly and Barrie all are proven top-4 guys so maybe one more is needed. Maybe Dermott takes that next step or Ceci finds some kind of enlightenment (doubtful) but the D is better off then it was in October of last year.
- The Law

There are so many paths here.

I think signing Barrie should be priority number 1....you just can't replace top pairing talent.

But what if Dermott plays lights out? Cranky Leaf fans will first say they are screwed because now they can't sign both Muzzin/Barrie...but if Dermott plays lights out he deserves the money but also deserves the 2LHD spot...Muzzin is not really needed.

If he plays meh and is still a 3rd pairing D he is tradable or can just sign for cheap.

Don't forget about Liljregen and Sandin too.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 2 @ 4:35 PM ET
Bob Murray in Anaheim?

Nylander for Lindholm

- Steven_Seagull


Sorry. I already traded him to Vegas.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:35 PM ET
Sorry. I already traded him to Vegas.
- GreatGigInTheSky



oh


Trade for Alex Nylander, then trick Murray into thinking it’s the good one.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 2 @ 4:37 PM ET
oh


Trade for Alex Nylander, then trick Murray into thinking it’s the good one.

- Steven_Seagull


I like it. Shouldn't cost more than a few late round picks to get him.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:39 PM ET
I doubt he gets traded unless it’s Nashville. JMO
- Garnie


I'm thinking Columbus will have to do something... given what they lost in FreeAgency

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
It always amazes me when people miss penalty kicks in soccer.

On top of not scoring, it probably just killed all momentum that England had.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
I'm thinking Columbus will have to do something... given what they lost in FreeAgency
- BorjeFan4Ever



Nylander for Werenski
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
It always amazes me when people miss penalty kicks in soccer.

On top of not scoring, it probably just killed all momentum that England had.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Wait wait wait...


England had momentum?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
There are so many paths here.

I think signing Barrie should be priority number 1....you just can't replace top pairing talent.

But what if Dermott plays lights out? Cranky Leaf fans will first say they are screwed because now they can't sign both Muzzin/Barrie...but if Dermott plays lights out he deserves the money but also deserves the 2LHD spot...Muzzin is not really needed.

If he plays meh and is still a 3rd pairing D he is tradable or can just sign for cheap.

Don't forget about Liljregen and Sandin too.

- Santo_44


I'm sure that if Dermott is playing even only reasonably well come January - that Dreger will start talking about all the offer sheets Dermott is going to get.



Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
I'm thinking Columbus will have to do something... given what they lost in FreeAgency
- BorjeFan4Ever

Yes, maybe.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:44 PM ET
I'm sure that if Dermott is playing even only reasonably well come January - that Dreger will start talking about all the offer sheets Dermott is going to get.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Pretty likely
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 4:44 PM ET
Nylander for Werenski
- Steven_Seagull

I thought you were trading Marner?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:49 PM ET
I thought you were trading Marner?
- Garnie



People yell at me when I do.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:52 PM ET
Now you're getting it!
- Scabeh


oh, good.

are the canes hitting you guys with an offer sheet this year or waiting for mete next year?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 2 @ 5:04 PM ET
oh, good.

are the canes hitting you guys with an offer sheet this year or waiting for mete next year?

- Tumbleweed


Holding out for Kotkaniemi.

Then they'll get a bunch of local media to carry water for them and write weird stories about how Kotkaniemi always dreamed of playing for the Hurricanes and how DARE a pathetic and probably poor man like Geoff Molson stand in the way of the mighty Hurricanes!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
There are so many paths here.

I think signing Barrie should be priority number 1....you just can't replace top pairing talent.

But what if Dermott plays lights out? Cranky Leaf fans will first say they are screwed because now they can't sign both Muzzin/Barrie...but if Dermott plays lights out he deserves the money but also deserves the 2LHD spot...Muzzin is not really needed.

If he plays meh and is still a 3rd pairing D he is tradable or can just sign for cheap.

Don't forget about Liljregen and Sandin too.

- Santo_44

This may not be worth worrying about.

Next summer will probably see a lockout.

Based upon the two previous CBA impasses, we may see "get out of jail free" compliance buyouts (players love 'em, owners love 'em, so no arguments), and possibly even a rollback of salaries (it happened before).

So a lot of unknowns.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
This may not be worth worrying about.

Next summer will probably see a lockout.

Based upon the two previous CBA impasses, we may see "get out of jail free" compliance buyouts (players love 'em, owners love 'em, so no arguments), and possibly even a rollback of salaries (it happened before).

So a lot of unknowns.

- Atomic Wedgie


Another lockout? Gary will go through a 4th, and yet still remain the commish. Only in the hockey world.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:14 PM ET
Holding out for Kotkaniemi.

Then they'll get a bunch of local media to carry water for them and write weird stories about how Kotkaniemi always dreamed of playing for the Hurricanes and how DARE a pathetic and probably poor man like Geoff Molson stand in the way of the mighty Hurricanes!

- BINGO!


need to set it up by clogging up their cap space. offer sheet guys this year and next for deals they have to match.

e.g. hudon for $2M (no compensation); lehtkonen for $4M (2nd rounder).

bergevin will have no idea what is happening.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 2 @ 5:16 PM ET
This may not be worth worrying about.

Next summer will probably see a lockout.

Based upon the two previous CBA impasses, we may see "get out of jail free" compliance buyouts (players love 'em, owners love 'em, so no arguments), and possibly even a rollback of salaries (it happened before).

So a lot of unknowns.

- Atomic Wedgie


i wouldn't be surprised. They'll come up with some formula to reduce escrow; but jam this on the players.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:21 PM ET
In principle, deal had to be made, and I don't mind it. But if they don't do more to bring in more defensive help it will have been pointless.

Kerfoot was a good pickup as well.

- aminnes

They now have two Reillys with Muzzin and Dermott. How much more do you want?
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