Barrie is literally Gardiner in his own end. The best thing that happened for Reilly's career was to get the hell away from Gardiner. Barrie is a great PP guy, and a guy I like having but he needs to play with a total homer and cannot face other teams top lines.

So then the question is, who faces the top lines? Ceci? Poor Muzzin on that one. Who is killing penalties? Ottawa tried that with Ceci. Huge pressure on Reilly now to save the day defensively.
- aminnes

I can’t

The owners absolutely love Gary Bettman, because he takes the heat.

Guys like you actually think that it's Gary Bettman deciding to lock out the players.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's strange scenario. The TV revenue is evenly distributed yet teams like Phoenix draw 25,000 TV viewers. I'm just surprised owners of big money teams are cool holding those other teams up. The lockouts are another loss. Imagine 2.5 years of lost revenue as a big market already in his tenure. I get the owners like him, because like you say, he's the figurehead, but what a weird system they all agreed upon.

Completely false.

Barrie and Rielly are phenomenal at getting the puck out quick.

You are something else.
- Santo_44

He thinks it’s better to have Hainsey bomb the puck for icing.

Bizarre stat about Barrie from the Avalanche blogger:

"The highest-scoring defenseman in Quebec/Colorado franchise history for goals (75), assists (232) and points (307)..."

They got worse defensively. Barrie is not close to Reilly in his own end. Reilly is above average defensively while Barrie is near the bottom of the league. Muzzin can only make up for so many of Ceci's mistakes and although Dermott is a good up and comer he isn't ringing any bells yet. Who is going to kill penalties?

What do I want? A Stanley Cup.

All this celebrating getting under the cap actually shows just how easily this fan base can be sucked in.
- aminnes

(frank) RIGHT OFF IDIOT!

(frank) RIGHT OFF IDIOT!
- .HOHO.

Hainsey for Norris!

(frank) RIGHT OFF IDIOT!
- .HOHO.

It’s hilarious

Bizarre stat about Barrie from the Avalanche blogger:

"The highest-scoring defenseman in Quebec/Colorado franchise history for goals (75), assists (232) and points (307)..."
- Atomic Wedgie

He is very good offensively. Obviously there are a few names ahead of him in the per game territory but he's certainly going to be putting up points.

- aminnes

krug is (frank)ing disaster in his own end.

The owners absolutely love Gary Bettman, because he takes the heat.

Guys like you actually think that it's Gary Bettman deciding to lock out the players.
- Atomic Wedgie

Gary Bettman has been great for the game. Anybody old enough to remember past commissioners knows this.
The media loves saying that Donald Fehr is the smartest guy in the room but it’s always Bettman that wins.

krug is 5'9.
- Tumbleweed

Small


*if true.

krug is (frank)ing disaster in his own end.
- Tumbleweed

Not as bad as Barrie. Not as bad a Ceci.

Man the Leafs rebuilt their bottom 6 and top 4 dmen in a 12 month period. It's pretty epic.

To the naysayers on Barrie. You act as if every dman you want is available and that they want what the Leafs have/or want to deal with Dubas. Kadri was the guy to move and he nixed a deal.

He is very good offensively. Obviously there are a few names ahead of him in the per game territory but he's certainly going to be putting up points.
- aminnes

I just thought that in the history of the Nordiques and Avalanche, there would have been a guy with higher points totals.

Nope.

First two names that sprung to mind were Sandis Ozolinsh and Sylvain Lefebvre.

Nope.

I didn't realize that Barrie has 8 years with the Avalanche.

Bizarre stat about Barrie from the Avalanche blogger:

"The highest-scoring defenseman in Quebec/Colorado franchise history for goals (75), assists (232) and points (307)..."
- Atomic Wedgie

He sucks b'y..

Sign:

Nuck and Flames fans

Not as bad as Barrie. Not as bad a Ceci.
- aminnes

oh

Man the Leafs rebuilt their bottom 6 and top 4 dmen in a 12 month period. It's pretty epic.
- Aaron_85

Leafs got worse because a dumbass said so.

Barrie is literally Gardiner in his own end. The best thing that happened for Reilly's career was to get the hell away from Gardiner. Barrie is a great PP guy, and a guy I like having but he needs to play with a total homer and cannot face other teams top lines.

So then the question is, who faces the top lines? Ceci? Poor Muzzin on that one. Who is killing penalties? Ottawa tried that with Ceci. Huge pressure on Reilly now to save the day defensively.
- aminnes

You do realize that Kyle Dubas is GM. Barrie is exactly what he is looking for; someone who can quickly move the puck up to forwards and then join the rush. He will not be bringing in hulking homers who chase guys around in their own end.

This is going to be the look of this team until someone bounces Dubas out of the job. We’ll see if it works and at the very least it’s going to be a blast to watch.

I just thought that in the history of the Nordiques and Avalanche, there would have been a guy with higher points totals.

Nope.

First two names that sprung to mind were Sandis Ozolinsh and Sylvain Lefebvre.

Nope.

I didn't realize that Barrie has 8 years with the Avalanche.
- Atomic Wedgie

I thought of John micheal liles lol I wonder where he fit in.

I just thought that in the history of the Nordiques and Avalanche, there would have been a guy with higher points totals.

Nope.

First two names that sprung to mind were Sandis Ozolinsh and Sylvain Lefebvre.

Nope.

I didn't realize that Barrie has 8 years with the Avalanche.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oz is ahead in per game. Bourque and Blake.

Barrie is however a -59.

I thought of John micheal liles lol I wonder where he fit in.
- bryant

In the top ten

Gary Bettman has been great for the game. Anybody old enough to remember past commissioners knows this.
The media loves saying that Donald Fehr is the smartest guy in the room but it’s always Bettman that wins.
- shack67

I find it bizarre that fans boo him.

He didn't bring in the instigator rule (99% of pro-fight fans believe he did).

Yes, he's overseen multiple lockouts - but that's on the owners.

He's increased the geographic scope of the league.

Hockey in the US (particularly participation) is off the charts.

His initiative saved Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton from moving to the US.

He brought cost certainty.

Yeah, Florida and Arizona play to empty arenas, but why the frank do I care? Hell, it just means I can go see an NHL game on the cheap if I vacation there. It doesn't affect me at all.

Man the Leafs rebuilt their bottom 6 and top 4 dmen in a 12 month period. It's pretty epic.

To the naysayers on Barrie. You act as if every dman you want is available and that they want what the Leafs have/or want to deal with Dubas. Kadri was the guy to move and he nixed a deal.
- Aaron_85

As I said - and it's nice to see a brain rather than name calling - the trade in principle is good. However if they don;'t get more defensive type help what was the point. It becomes lateral at that point.

I find it bizarre that fans boo him.

He didn't bring in the instigator rule (99% of pro-fight fans believe he did).

Yes, he's overseen multiple lockouts - but that's on the owners.

He's increased the geographic scope of the league.

Hockey in the US (particularly participation) is off the charts.

His initiative saved Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton from moving to the US.

He brought cost certainty.

Yeah, Florida and Arizona play to empty arenas, but why the frank do I care? Hell, it just means I can go see an NHL game on the cheap if I vacation there. It doesn't affect me at all.
- Atomic Wedgie

Edmonton was saved by a large group of business owners in the city. What did he do to save Calgary and Ottawa? Also, why does he get zero blame for anything but gets all the praise? If the owners are just using him then it's them that should get the praise.

Oz is ahead in per game. Bourque and Blake.

Barrie is however a -59.
- aminnes

Bourque played 94 games for the Avalanche. He'd be waaaay down the list.

Blake is a good guess, but 62 goals, 146 assists, 208 points. Barrie beats him.