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Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:31 AM ET
Let’s have some fun


St. Petersburg SKA
Panarin 54gp -26g 36 a - 62 pts

Gusev 62 go 17g 65a - 82 pts

- gerbe75pts


Cool, what about vladimir shipachyov?

for everyone you name, there are so many more that dont work.

Gusev is also 26, panarin was what? 22, 23?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:35 AM ET
Nikita Gusev Would Be Intriguing Plan B Option If New York Rangers Fail to Land Artemi Panarin

Gusev, like Panarin, made a name for himself in the KHL. Vegas Golden Knights’ current cap crunch could make him available.

You may be asking yourself, “why Gusev?” but there are a couple of reasons why he could help round out the Rangers’ top six. The first reason is that the Rangers may be able to acquire him on the cheap and sign him to a contract that’s considerably less than what Panarin will command.


Read
https://www.google.com/am...i-panarin-nhl-free-agency
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:37 AM ET
Nikita Gusev Would Be Intriguing Plan B Option If New York Rangers Fail to Land Artemi Panarin

Gusev, like Panarin, made a name for himself in the KHL. Vegas Golden Knights’ current cap crunch could make him available.

You may be asking yourself, “why Gusev?” but there are a couple of reasons why he could help round out the Rangers’ top six. The first reason is that the Rangers may be able to acquire him on the cheap and sign him to a contract that’s considerably less than what Panarin will command.


Read
https://www.google.com/am...i-panarin-nhl-free-agency

- gerbe75pts

I dont need to, I already know who he is. KHL numbers do not have a correlation on a players output in the NHL.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:37 AM ET
Cool, what about vladimir shipachyov?

for everyone you name, there are so many more that dont work.

Gusev is also 26, panarin was what? 22, 23?

- Mentalorgasm5


Panarin was "24" his first year in the NHL. I use the quotes because I assume the Russians are all at least 2 years older than they claim to be.

Gusev was the highest scorer(12) at the Olympics, make of that what you will. Derek Roy had the 3rd most(7), also make of that what you will.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jul 2 @ 12:38 AM ET
Cool, what about vladimir shipachyov?

for everyone you name, there are so many more that dont work.

Gusev is also 26, panarin was what? 22, 23?

- Mentalorgasm5



shipachyov? The knights screwed that whole thing up do you not remember
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:39 AM ET
You just don’t know who is just like you did with Kucherov
- gerbe75pts

Yea I do know, I live here and seen him play.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 12:42 AM ET
Panarin was "24" his first year in the NHL. I use the quotes because I assume the Russians are all at least 2 years older than they claim to be.

Gusev was the highest scorer(12) at the Olympics, make of that what you will. Derek Roy had the 3rd most(7), also make of that what you will.

- Wetbandit1

Lets get the band back together; Roy, Vanek, and Pommer.

I have nothing against taking russians, if I was a GM I would take one each year somewhere between rounds 2-7, statistically they have a higher hit right. Just dont want this one.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 12:43 AM ET
shipachyov? The knights screwed that whole thing up do you not remember
- gerbe75pts

How has Kovelchuk's return going? He was over a PPG in the K too. There is no correlation between points and the two leagues.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jul 2 @ 12:46 AM ET
Lets get the band back together; Roy, Vanek, and Pommer.

I have nothing against taking russians, if I was a GM I would take one each year somewhere between rounds 2-7, statistically they have a higher hit right. Just dont want this one.

- Mentalorgasm5


I mean it depends on what they want for him. A mid round pick? Done. Nylander? Done.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jul 2 @ 12:46 AM ET
Lets get the band back together; Roy, Vanek, and Pommer.

I have nothing against taking russians, if I was a GM I would take one each year somewhere between rounds 2-7, statistically they have a higher hit right. Just dont want this one.

- Mentalorgasm5


How can you not want to take a chance on a guy that is 2nd in the history of the KHL with a 82 point season ( think about the players that came from there Dadonov,Radulov, Panarin

Wetbandit1
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Jul 2 @ 12:47 AM ET
How can you not want to take a chance on a guy that is 2nd in the history of the KHL with a 82 point season ( think about the players that came from there Dadonov,Radulov, Panarin
- gerbe75pts


You mean the guy who ran home at the first sign of adversity only to come back 6 years later?
gerbe75pts
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Jul 2 @ 12:48 AM ET
How has Kovelchuk's return going? He was over a PPG in the K too. There is no correlation between points and the two leagues.
- Mentalorgasm5


Oh a 36 Kovalchuk didn’t do so hot ? What a shock
Mentalorgasm5
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Jul 2 @ 12:49 AM ET
How can you not want to take a chance on a guy that is 2nd in the history of the KHL with a 82 point season ( think about the players that came from there Dadonov,Radulov, Panarin
- gerbe75pts

Because there are assets that are proven available. His one year ELC is done. So idk what the cap hit will be, and it will cost something to acquire.

Not worth it. I could be wrong, but I rather go after something that will have a higher chance at improving the team.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 12:49 AM ET
Oh a 36 Kovalchuk didn’t do so hot ? What a shock
- gerbe75pts

He was tearing it up in that very same KHL. So when you use KHL stats as a reason to bring in Gusev, it should be a shock to you.

But then again you are the type that says Murray doesnt get any credit for late round picks, but botts gets the blame for not taking CHL players in the later rounds.
gerbe75pts
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Jul 2 @ 12:50 AM ET
You mean the guy who ran home at the first sign of adversity only to come back 6 years later?
- Wetbandit1


Went from a ok player to a first line player because of that
gerbe75pts
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Jul 2 @ 12:51 AM ET
He was tearing it up in that very same KHL. So when you use KHL stats as a reason to bring in Gusev, it should be a shock to you.
- Mentalorgasm5


Who are you comparing at old guy to a young guy ?

Are you going to bring up Jagr next
gerbe75pts
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Jul 2 @ 12:52 AM ET
He was tearing it up in that very same KHL. So when you use KHL stats as a reason to bring in Gusev, it should be a shock to you.

But then again you are the type that says Murray doesnt get any credit for late round picks, but botts gets the blame for not taking CHL players in the later rounds.

- Mentalorgasm5


All I said was TM shouldn’t get any credit for VO that’s all
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 12:53 AM ET
Who are you comparing at old guy to a young guy ?

Are you going to bring up Jagr next

- gerbe75pts

Jesus Christ you are such a contradiction.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:54 AM ET
All I said was TM shouldn’t get any credit for VO that’s all
- gerbe75pts

If you use Gusev stats in the KHL as a reason why he would be good in the NHL, you cannot dismiss Kovie's stats from the KHL and how ordinary he has been.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 12:57 AM ET
All I said was TM shouldn’t get any credit for VO that’s all
- gerbe75pts

By that logic, botts cannot get the blame for not taking CHL players in the later rounds. You cannot have it both ways, it is a contradiction.
gerbe75pts
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Jul 2 @ 12:57 AM ET
If you use Gusev stats in the KHL as a reason why he would be good in the NHL, you cannot dismiss Kovie's stats from the KHL and how ordinary he has been.
- Mentalorgasm5


One is a old man the other is a kid
So kovie had 16g 18 at 36
Cool
gerbe75pts
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Jul 2 @ 12:58 AM ET
By that logic, botts cannot get the blame for not taking CHL players in the later rounds. You cannot have it both ways, it is a contradiction.
- Mentalorgasm5


Because Tm didn’t draft VO ? When it’s been reported that he didn’t care who the last pick was and he left

Yep he gets credit
Wetbandit1
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Jul 2 @ 12:59 AM ET
All I said was TM shouldn’t get any credit for VO that’s all
- gerbe75pts


And that's asinine. The head guy gets the credit and takes the blame. That's how it goes.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jul 2 @ 1:01 AM ET
And that's asinine. The head guy gets the credit and takes the blame. That's how it goes.
- Wetbandit1

But he wasn’t there he didn’t pick him
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 2 @ 1:01 AM ET
One is a old man the other is a kid
So kovie had 16g 18 at 36
Cool

- gerbe75pts

Kovie has 63 points in 53 games in the KHL the year before he came to the NHL. Not 36.

IT IS AN EXAMPLE THAT PLAYERS IN THE KHL WITH HIGH NUMBERS DO NOT COME TO THE NHL AND TEAR IT UP.

Do you understand basic logic?
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