I like Strome too, but he makes 3 million and we probably have to clear 7-8. We probably have to do 2 of trade Strome, buyout Smith, and trade Stinky
- 2sticks1puck

You saying Kreider def gone? Or with Kreider

I could see Kreider staying and Buch going, with one of Strome or Stinky also going

I think they are gonna throw both Kreider and Buch out there on the trade market and trade one, and keep the other. Probably take a lil bit to mull through offers and take the best one. That’s a good plan for them to have anyway I think

sorry for your loss.
- airjan23

Thank you Jan, sincerely.

I think they are gonna throw both Kreider and Buch out there on the trade market and trade one, and keep the other. Probably take a lil bit to mull through offers and take the best one. That’s a good plan for them to have anyway I think
- Slimtj100

Buch has had a slightly better first 3 seasons in the league than Kreider for what it’s worth. I think there’s another level to his game plus he’s younger and cheaper.

Buch has had a slightly better first 3 seasons in the league than Kreider for what it’s worth. I think there’s another level to his game plus he’s younger and cheaper.
- picklerick

I think they can get better offers for Buch. I ultimately think they’ll deal Kreider, but it’s a very tough call

TOR-COL trade: Leafs get Tyson Barrie, Alex Kerfoot and a 6th rd pick in 2020 from the Avs for Nazem Kadri, Calle Rosen and Toronto’s 3rd round selection in 2020. Colorado also retaining 50% of Barrie’s AAV ($5.5 million) as part of the transaction.

Edge to Toronto and they get cap room to sign Marner long-term
- airjan23

And an edge as well to the Rangers, and all the Metro. Division teams, with the exception for the Isles, who were the ones once rumored to possibly present Marner with an offer sheet.

Now Marner also has to be reasonable with Toronto if wanting to win, in being aware of the cap troubles they would still face otherwise, in order to improve their back line in key.

Buch has had a slightly better first 3 seasons in the league than Kreider for what it’s worth. I think there’s another level to his game plus he’s younger and cheaper.
- picklerick

Good point

Thing that sucks is that this is a career defining nyesr for Buch, but he might have to be traded b4 NYR can see what he'll become.

Kreider is what he is, not a bad thing, but it'll cost much more in $$/years to keep him over Buch. Not much wiggle room with Trouba and Lemiuex needed to be signed. In this situation Buch has more value over Kreider

I think they can get better offers for Buch. I ultimately think they’ll deal Kreider, but it’s a very tough call
- Slimtj100

Yea but I don’t really like the idea of having kreider on the roster for 7 years, or his age 36/37 season

Yea but I don’t really like the idea of having kreider on the roster for 7 years, or his age 36/37 season
- picklerick

Exactly

Kreider and Nam going bye bye...

With this current roster Kreiders ability to speak Russian isn't needed anymore. Lol

Exactly

Kreider and Nam going bye bye...

With this current roster Kreiders ability to speak Russian isn't needed anymore. Lol
- rrentz

His speed tho. It’s a tough loss. If there is one guy strong enough to last til that age it’s him, he got serious muscles. His schwantz is probably like 3 inches tho haha

I heard it weeks ago

But you saying as a coach or player?
- Slimtj100

I believe word I saw last night somewhere in trying to keep alert on the latest rumors of all kinds, had stated it was as a player, possibly along with another experienced vet as well, for purposes of providing leadership, and teach Hartford's players how to win. I only mentioned the word, "coach" for reasons of believing that they have yet to hire a new coaching staff.

His speed tho. It’s a tough loss. If there is one guy strong enough to last til that age it’s him, he got serious muscles. His schwantz is probably like 3 inches tho haha
- Slimtj100

Not sure about all that schwantz talk but he plays fast and loose (see Callahan). Not sure he’d be very effective by that age

His speed tho. It’s a tough loss. If there is one guy strong enough to last til that age it’s him, he got serious muscles. His schwantz is probably like 3 inches tho haha
- Slimtj100

His stat splits every year, especially this past season, are no bueno. 2nd half of season was pitiful. The "idea" of what kreider is/should be aren't reality. When i think of what he can be, I want to re-sign him, but it simply isn't the case. NYR doesn't have cap space to take that chance. I can't believe that we are now worrying about cap space already

That's the price that has to be paid w/ Trouba and Panarin

Too bad Kreider couldn't be dealt for Kerfoot, pick/prospect and another sweetner

Yea but I don’t really like the idea of having kreider on the roster for 7 years, or his age 36/37 season
- picklerick

His last season he would be 35. Increase the $$ but only offer 5 years

His stat splits every year, especially this past season, are no bueno. 2nd half of season was pitiful. The "idea" of what kreider is/should be aren't reality. When i think of what he can be, I want to re-sign him, but it simply isn't the case. NYR doesn't have cap space to take that chance. I can't believe that we are now worrying about cap space already

That's the price that has to be paid w/ Trouba and Panarin

Too bad Kreider couldn't be dealt for Kerfoot and another sweetner
- rrentz

It’s hard to envision Kreider on the ice opening night based on the loyalty the org has shown. The past era is almost all gone except for Hank and Staal. Zib and Skjei too, but they were late arrivals.

It’s hard to envision Kreider on the ice opening night based on the loyalty the org has shown. The past era is almost all gone except for Hank and Staal. Zib and Skjei too, but they were late arrivals.
- Slimtj100

I don’t think a single move was a bad one though. Stepan, McD, Miller, Zucc (think we coulda got more there) Girardi. None of those make me say damn I wish they were still on this team with the exception of maybe Zucc.

It’s hard to envision Kreider on the ice opening night based on the loyalty the org has shown. The past era is almost all gone except for Hank and Staal. Zib and Skjei too, but they were late arrivals.
- Slimtj100

Unless we truly know he’s walking or we don’t want to resign him, I think he will be here. Inferior players are making as much as him. Makes no sense to just dump Kreider

I don’t think a single move was a bad one though. Stepan, McD, Miller, Zucc (think we coulda got more there) Girardi. None of those make me say damn I wish they were still on this team with the exception of maybe Zucc.
- nyrangers9479

I didn’t say they were bad lol

Zucc trade was this close to being a monster, but I can’t kill them

Gorton did a tremendous job, better then I could’ve hoped. Obviously little lucky with Kakko, but all these early picks seem to be on the right track

Unless we truly know he’s walking or we don’t want to resign him, I think he will be here. Inferior players are making as much as him. Makes no sense to just dump Kreider
- 2sticks1puck

It’s not dumping him, the return should be pretty good

Unless we truly know he’s walking or we don’t want to resign him, I think he will be here. Inferior players are making as much as him. Makes no sense to just dump Kreider
- 2sticks1puck

If Kreider stays, even up until trade deadline, then Nam, Buch, and shatty and/or Smith HAVE to go b4 start of season. Nam and Buch by themselves won't give enough $$ towards cap to sign Trouba and Lemiuex....right?

With the earlier talk on the Panthers goal situation, as to why they signed Bobrovsky for 7 years at $10M annually, after using their 1st Round pick to draft a top goalie prospect in Spencer Knight out of Darien, CT., how about the Isles thinking as well on their own goalie situation, after losing out to the Panthers on Bobrovsky!

A short time ago, Chicago moved on from Mrazek, after the Canes were very close to re-signing him, & signed instead, Isles F.A. goalie in Robin Lehner for just 1 year at $5M. That led to the Isles shortly later signing Avs F.A. goalie, in Semyon Varlamov to a 4 year deal at the same $5M annually. So why didn't the Isles keep their "sure thing" last season in Lehner, and sign him at a $5M AAV to any term up to 4 years? No one dating back to his days as Devils GM would have ever suspected that Uncle Lou would ever lose it somewhat as far as only logic goes.

With the earlier talk on the Panthers goal situation, as to why they signed Bobrovsky for 7 years at $10M annually, after they just used their 1st Round pick to draft a top goalie prospect in Spencer Knight out of Darien, CT. But how about the Isles thinking as to their goalie situation, after losing out to the Panthers on Bobrovsky!

A short time ago, Chicago moved on from Mrazek, after the Canes were very close to re-signing him, & signed instead, Isles F.A. goalie in Robin Lehner for just 1 year at $5M. That led to the Isles shortly later signing Avs F.A. goalie, in Semyon Varlomov to a 4 year deal at the same $5M annually. So why didn't the Isles keep their "sure thing" last season in Lehner, and sign him at a $5M AAV to any term up to 4 years? No one dating back to his days as Devils GM would have ever suspected that Uncle Lou would ever lose it somewhat as far as only logic goes.
- RangerSaver

Isles probably felt that Varly was more of a "sure" bet longer term?

Maybe Lou saw that Lehrner upped his Lithium dosage

Too far?

Isles probably felt that Varly was more of a "sure" bet longer term?

Maybe Lou saw that Lehrner upped his Lithium dosage

Too far?
- rrentz

Yes

The only thing that sucks now...we have to wait til September for the next thing to be excited about.

Free agency is awesome when you make big moves, but it only lasts for like 20 mins. Now the longgggg wait to training camp

If Kreider stays, even up until trade deadline, then Nam, Buch, and shatty and/or Smith HAVE to go b4 start of season. Nam and Buch by themselves won't give enough $$ towards cap to sign Trouba and Lemiuex....right?
- rrentz

More moves have to be coming soon, starting with Namestnikov's $4M cap hit being dealt for a draft pick(s) only, as Vesey was dealt for just one pick early today. As of today's activity, the Rangers have a total of only $8,769,391 of current cap space. That's barely enough to just sign Trouba. Then they will still need an additional $6.2M to $7.2M to also sign their other pro roster RFA's in Buchnevich, Lemieux, and Deangelo.

That's why on Jan's prior blog, I posed the question early this morning, in that if Rangers fans want them to sign Panarin, it also means they must accept that a buyout of Shatty & or Smith would also have to be utilized. That's right where we are now after Vesey's $2,275,000 was also dealt to Buffalo for a 3rd Round Pick in 2021. It would require both Kreider and Namestnikov's combined $8,625,000 to be dealt in full otherwise to become cap compliant by the start of the season.

So who would you rather have now on this roster? Kreider's $4.625M for this season and possibly beyond, or either one of Shatty's $6.65M or Smith's $4.35M for the next two seasons, in also knowing that those two d'men will absorb ice time from one or more of their upcoming youth on the back line?