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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:41 PM ET


2020

- TheSabresTaco



What's this? The Fall before the winter of our discontent?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
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From @rwesthead: NHL claims Montador’s brain injuries caused by his ‘own lack of due care and fault’. FULL STORY: https://www.tsn.ca/1.1332037


- TheSabresTaco

Why are they literally the only one's still denying CTE and brain injuries? Seriously. What a bad look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKQ7AcFGEE

The Eric Lindros interview makes me almost cry, man. I've had a serious concussion and PCS, and I knew exactly what he was saying.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
No one in their right mind thought the Leafs were going to lose him, one way or the other.
- Powerslave


Wasn't Marner signing for 9M to stay in Toronto?

That's what I was told. Hockey Capital of the World and all that.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:43 PM ET
Gerbe wants just to completely rule out Sam at 2c.

I cant see why the Sabres wouldn't take another look.

It should be pretty obvious pretty quick

- Boss34


If you're going to do it, it has to be with really good wingers.Problem is, Reinhart is the best right wing we have.

If Reinhart could also be Reinhart's right wing while simultaneously playing center, it would be worth trying, but Olofsson-Reinhart-Sheary or whatever sounds sketchy as hell.

Whatever we gain with him at center is lost by what we had at wing, and probably more
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:44 PM ET
The Leafs now have about $18.5m in cap to sign Mitch once Horton’s $5.3m is placed on the LTIR. Yes... $18.5m.

After the Aho sheet of $8.5m x 5, no GM is sheeting a player over $10.6m (four 1st’s). Leafs match everything less in a heartbeat.

I get it, you’d love nothing more than to screw the Leafs, but thanks for playing!

- As_I_See_It

Everyone is now a better person because of this post. Thank you so much for making my day.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
Everyone is now a better person because of this post. Thank you so much for making my day.
- BeadyEyedDouche


I am much worse now.

Exnay on the generalizationsay.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
He's kinda right. I'd be more concerned how many good forwards we have as opposed to where they play.

Top 6 forwards on this team

Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart

Good third liners:
Sheary, Vesey

Good fourth liners:
Okposo, Rodrigues

That gets me to 7 guys I actually need on the team. Give CJ smith the other fourth line spot or Asplund. Give Oloffson a shot in the top six. Pray Middlestadt can centre the third line. Now I'm at ten.

Basically, I need two top six forwards, and I don't care if they are wings or centres. Get me one for Risto, and then I need Botts to work one more magic trade like he did for Miller or Skinner.

- matty12345


Toffoli and Ehlers
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:52 PM ET
I wouldn’t have hated Nyquist.

But I’m not gonna get pissed over something that has a well over 50% chance at being regrettable

- sbroads24


I think I’ve come to an early sense that this team is going to play another meaningless season next year.

This team was so so bad, last year and the year before.

They can’t score and still have not addressed that issue.

Vesey for Pommer is an even swap

And they still have the worst player in the league in Sobodka penciled in as 3/4C
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:52 PM ET
Toffoli and Ehlers
- Mentalorgasm5

Risto for Ehlers straight up. I'd even throw in a third or fourth

Risto for Toffoli I would do...but I'd feel crappy about it. I just really need him gone at this point.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:54 PM ET
Toffoli and Ehlers
- Mentalorgasm5


Going to be hard to get both.

Risto for Ehlers sure

Go get Hoffman.
Lottery protected 1st and/or conditional 1st, goes to a 2nd if he does not sign with Buffalo by the draft. And Nylander.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:58 PM ET
Also why are people so high in Toffoli.

He has had one good year and that was 58 points 4 years ago.

He will be 28 and is not getting any better.
30 points two of the last three years.


With Toffoli you are getting a player who you will hate in 3-4 years. Didn’t y’all just tell me you were trying to avoid that?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 5:01 PM ET
Going to be hard to get both.

Risto for Ehlers sure

Go get Hoffman.
Lottery protected 1st and/or conditional 1st, goes to a 2nd if he does not sign with Buffalo by the draft. And Nylander.

- ImThatGuy

I would personally want Toffoli over Hoffman. Both are rentals, I just feel Toffoli would be a little cheaper to get, and is a little younger.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:03 PM ET
No, what I mean is, if you go into the season w out securing a #2 center with the reasoning that you're going to "try" Sam there, and it's a failure, then what?
- Powerslave



I see what your saying.

We do have quite a few centers on the roster though.

Erod, Larsson, sobatka, mitts, eichel ,

Even girgs can play center.

I wonder if jbotts has too much faith in mitts stepping into 2c?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:06 PM ET
Does the Buffatax go up or down when they switch to royal blue?
- buffalofan19



Does royal blue make players want to play for buffalo "more" or "less"?

If so, then it effects buffatax.

The jerseys are for $ and the fans.

Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:06 PM ET
I see what your saying.

We do have quite a few centers on the roster though.

Erod, Larsson, sobatka, mitts, eichel ,

Even girgs can play center.

I wonder if jbotts has too much faith in mitts stepping into 2c?

- Boss34



We have quite a few centers? Gerry Meehan, Adam Creighton are better players now then sobotka, Larsson and girgensons. They are horrible hockey players


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:08 PM ET
If you're going to do it, it has to be with really good wingers.Problem is, Reinhart is the best right wing we have.

If Reinhart could also be Reinhart's right wing while simultaneously playing center, it would be worth trying, but Olofsson-Reinhart-Sheary or whatever sounds sketchy as hell.

Whatever we gain with him at center is lost by what we had at wing, and probably more

- jcragcrumple



Sam-reinhart-Samson line?

Its harder to fill a center position though right?

I dont see nylander or goaloffson playing center- ever
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
I would personally want Toffoli over Hoffman. Both are rentals, I just feel Toffoli would be a little cheaper to get, and is a little younger.
- Mentalorgasm5


IMO, Toffoli = Okposo.

Okposo scored 1 more goal than Toffoli did. Had 5 less points, yet most fans can’t stand him and want him to retire.

Toffoli is going to get 6+ on his next deal and it will be one you want to get out of 2 years after signing it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think I’ve come to an early sense that this team is going to play another meaningless season next year.

This team was so so bad, last year and the year before.

They can’t score and still have not addressed that issue.

Vesey for Pommer is an even swap

And they still have the worst player in the league in Sobodka penciled in as 3/4C

- ImThatGuy


Yeah, vesey has played in so many big playoff games.
Tons of veteran leadership out of vesey

It's almost the same.


Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
What a slow day - even devoid of rumors.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
Yeah, vesey has played in so many big playoff games.
Tons of veteran leadership out of vesey

It's almost the same.

- Boss34


Yea cause this team was so close to making the playoffs with Pommer on it.

Point production it is basically a wash
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
We have quite a few centers? Gerry Meehan, Adam Creighton are better players now then sobotka, Larsson and girgensons. They are horrible hockey players
- Buffalo39



Like one of those 3 clowns cant play 4c for 8-12 minutes a night?

Eichel
Mitts
Erod
Sobatka/larsson/girgs

Or asplund
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:13 PM ET
What a slow day - even devoid of rumors.
- Cup Crazy '07


Most of the NHL goes on vacation after July 1. I know a lot of the big “insiders” do that normally have the breaks.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 2 @ 5:14 PM ET
Yea cause this team was so close to making the playoffs with Pommer on it.

Point production it is basically a wash

- ImThatGuy



Vesey would have single handedly drove the Sabres to the playoffs though.

Why take pommer out of the lineup, instead of someone who didnt score 16 goals last season.

Pretty much the rest of the team other then 9,23 and 53
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:15 PM ET
Sam-reinhart-Samson line?

Its harder to fill a center position though right?

I dont see nylander or goaloffson playing center- ever

- Boss34


Here's what I mean:

Is it more likely that he gets 55 points on the 2RW or 2C?

I think it's more likely that regardless of who his center is, he scores more at wing than center. And what's the loss of production at wing look like with Reinhart playing center.

The other thing I would say is that I think Reinhart at 3C makes more sense than 2C. He can be defensively responsible, but I think it's unlikely that he's a 55 point 2C. Or even a 45 point 2C. That's just my opinion.

If you put him at center, you have to give him the best wings possible, which would be Skinner and I guess sheary
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:16 PM ET


This was made for the USA beating England, but it's just or more fun to use on Canadians for hockey.
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