I never said this, seriously. This is my and a lot of people's issue with you. you constantly come at people yet completely miss the point they're making and even worse, put words into people's mouths. I never (frank)ing said I don't have hope we can get better. I just know this roster is mostly set, barring an absolutely huge, multiple player trade.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Agreed.

The first next year is not being moved.

The thing we have to hope is Risto for a middle 6 forward.

That’s the move. Even then to compete with the top teams you still need work.

If you move Risto you possibly have only 5 players signed beyond this year.

Why are people mad about this? It would be dumb to buy him out. Send him to the AHL.

Buying him out would give you a cap hit of 1.5 million this year, and 1 million next year.

Sending him to the AHL will give you a cap hit of 2.45 million this year. We are not cap strapped, why spread out the hit over two years?

Same can be said for Bogosian and Scandella, trade them, waive them, or put them in Rochester. It is stupid to buy them out. Thank God, he didnt.
- Mentalorgasm5

There was evidence I believe by Yost that Sobodka May have been the worst player in the entire league.

The fact that he is probably in this roster for another year, is flat out maddening.

There was evidence I believe by Yost that Sobodka May have been the worst player in the entire league.

The fact that he is probably in this roster for another year, is flat out maddening.
- ImThatGuy

So you mean we have 2 of the worst defenders in the league in our top 4. Exciting

Oh my god dude, Botts literally kept Girgensons and Larsson, they didn't buy out Sobotka, Okposo is STILL here, we STILL don't have a 2C, they made 23 lateral moves on defense, we signed a bunch of losers to league minimum contracts and at the same time, he let players that he traded for walk for nothing.

Our goaltending is one of the worst tandems in the league. Ullmark is not an NHL caliber goalie. Hutton is a glorified backup.

No President of Hockey Operations.

Not in on any FA's. Traded a 3rd for Vesey when we already traded a 3rd for Vesey and he signed elsewhere, which he will do AGAIN next summer. And he will only get like 19 goals this season.

Need moar???
- BeadyEyedDouche

Girgs & Larsson aren’t signed yet
And if they are, they were our best defensive forwards last year

Botts doesn’t do buyouts, doesn’t mean Sobatka will still be here
If he is, it’s 1 more year

Okposo wasn’t going anywhere
YOU’RE DELUSIONAL IF U THOUGHT OTHERWISE

Mitts will be our 2C for years
And oh yeah, we have another 2C coming in Cozens
*its a GOOD THING we didn’t do something dumb like the Hayes signing

Miller should help the defense, at least offensively. And has the potential to be a really nice move

Who did Botts let walk that you’ll miss?
Idk what to even say about that, it’s just so ridiculous

Ulmark was decent for a rookie
He was good at times last year & will get better
No one thinks he’s our goalie of the future,
and I’m sure that even includes Botts

There’s plenty of good teams without a Pres of Hockey Ops

Our insiders said we were talking to plenty of free agents
Can’t make them come here
And it was likely a good thing not to overpay

We’ll see what happens with Vesey.
Way too soon to tell


Obviously some ppl just like to complain & will no matter what
Ok, whatever... enjoy your misery

I never said this, seriously. This is my and a lot of people's issue with you. you constantly come at people yet completely miss the point they're making and even worse, put words into people's mouths. I never (frank)ing said I don't have hope we can get better. I just know this roster is mostly set, barring an absolutely huge, multiple player trade.
- BeadyEyedDouche

That sure sounds like not having any hope this roster will get better
Maybe words aren’t your strong suit

There was evidence I believe by Yost that Sobodka May have been the worst player in the entire league.

The fact that he is probably in this roster for another year, is flat out maddening.
- ImThatGuy

The closest Sobotka will get to Buffalo is Rochester. And then he will be on a plane back to Europe with his buddy Berglund. Relax.

Just have faith.
- Swedish_Jesus

Marner still isn't Pat Kane.

Been lurking in the background. (Semi creepy) with all the in fighting going on this should make for some really entertaining reeeding this year.

Back to lurking.
- hehateme

Suck it, HeHateMe(ady)

That sure sounds like not having any hope this roster will get better
Maybe words aren’t your strong suit
- jdfitz77

You are insufferable.

Marner still isn't Pat Kane.
- Wetbandit1

Of course not.

He's Pat Kane Jr., moran

Feel free to contribute a topic
- jcragcrumple

Boss & i were discussing Kyle Connor
Gerbe & i were discussing Gusev

There’s plenty of players out there that still could be available and would be great adds

Ehlers has been discussed for Risto

Is there no one u think we could posssibly add?

Pretty sure we could talk about something other than just b!tching

Marner still isn't Pat Kane.
- Wetbandit1

Gerbe said he was, I said he was elite.

Who will be offer shat next?

That's why I choose to and continue to have a glass half full outlook. It may not seem sane or even reasonable to have this thought process, but if I don't, it'll drive me crazy.

For those that question this, it doesn't mean I "settle" for anything. There's nothing more that I want in MY sports world than to see the Sabres raising the Cup, but I know there's only so much I can control with regard to this, so what else am I going to do?

I love many moves they make, and I cannot stand many moves they make. Somewhere, someday, in all of that, I have faith that a championship will happen.
- Powerslave

Nice take
Very refreshing

Girgs & Larsson aren’t signed yet
And if they are, they were our best defensive forwards last year

Botts doesn’t do buyouts, doesn’t mean Sobatka will still be here
If he is, it’s 1 more year

Okposo wasn’t going anywhere
YOU’RE DELUSIONAL IF U THOUGHT OTHERWISE

Mitts will be our 2C for years
And oh yeah, we have another 2C coming in Cozens
*its a GOOD THING we didn’t do something dumb like the Hayes signing

Miller should help the defense, at least offensively. And has the potential to be a really nice move

Who did Botts let walk that you’ll miss?
Idk what to even say about that, it’s just so ridiculous

Ulmark was decent for a rookie
He was good at times last year & will get better
No one thinks he’s our goalie of the future,
and I’m sure that even includes Botts

There’s plenty of good teams without a Pres of Hockey Ops

Our insiders said we were talking to plenty of free agents
Can’t make them come here
And it was likely a good thing not to overpay

We’ll see what happens with Vesey.
Way too soon to tell


Obviously some ppl just like to complain & will no matter what
Ok, whatever... enjoy your misery
- jdfitz77

Everyone (including Botts) wants Okposo gone. But geez, think of what the price would be. It cost the Leafs a 1st rounder to get rid of 1 year of Marleau at $6 million. What would 4-years of Okposo cost @ $6 million?

Just have faith.
- Swedish_Jesus

Flaccoville?

Miller and Vesey were good depth adds that did not cost a lot. Zuccarello or Nyquist would have been nice but the term was a little iffy there. We are also not a Zuccarello or Nyquist away from the promise land.

Tim to PLAY , Guess Who's Stats These Are!?!

My first 80ish Games in the NHL

83 13 17 30 -18 12 4 11 0 0 1 0 127 10.2 40.2

______________??

83 11 20 31 -17 4 1 2 0 0 1 0 49 4.1 40.63

______________??


Let's go everybody, put your guess' in , no stat checking please.

One of these players is a Sabre one isn't but both play the same position.

All of his 'buys' have been low risk. Moving a 4th for Sheary and Hunwick, a third for Beaulieu, a third for Vesey do not handicap us long term. Heck even the Ennis and Foligno trade saved us Ennis' buyout money and Scandella comes off the books next year. The only boat anchor we have he was saddled with (Okposo) our brilliant July 1st signing a few years ago.

To date the only thing Botts has done wrong won the Blues a Stanley Cup. However if his drafts pan out and he uses our cap space efficiently he will maximize our timeline and give us a chance to bring one to Buffalo someday.
- Swedish_Jesus

*helped*

They were in 30th until a goalie/coaching change

I'll be wearing this hat


- jcragcrumple

Bro, I'm waiting.

All of his 'buys' have been low risk. Moving a 4th for Sheary and Hunwick, a third for Beaulieu, a third for Vesey do not handicap us long term. Heck even the Ennis and Foligno trade saved us Ennis' buyout money and Scandella comes off the books next year. The only boat anchor we have he was saddled with (Okposo) our brilliant July 1st signing a few years ago.

To date the only thing Botts has done wrong won the Blues a Stanley Cup. However if his drafts pan out and he uses our cap space efficiently he will maximize our timeline and give us a chance to bring one to Buffalo someday.
- Swedish_Jesus

That was a dumb move. He could have signed Vanek, who has publicly stated he would like to play in buffalo again. Would have cost no pick, and Vanek was only 3 million compared to the 5 million plus he spent on Hunwick and Sheary.

Flaccoville?
- Boss34

Obviously

*helped*

They were in 30th until a goalie/coaching change
- sbroads24

It takes a team to win, but at the end of the day he played a big role in it.

There was evidence I believe by Yost that Sobodka May have been the worst player in the entire league.

The fact that he is probably in this roster for another year, is flat out maddening.
- ImThatGuy

So send him to the AHL. It is dumb to buy him out. It really is that simple.

That was a dumb move. He could have signed Vanek, who has publicly stated he would like to play in buffalo again. Would have cost no pick, and Vanek was only 3 million compared to the 5 million plus he spent on Hunwick and Sheary.
- Mentalorgasm5

Thats fair, either option though doesnt handcuff us long term.