Paul Dreger update... DREGER still believes Marner is getting offer sheeted. He's still saying that Leaf fans making fun of him on Twitter isn't bothering him at all...

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- kaptaan

Racist

Wouldn't get anything for him in a trade, if his number is too high from the arbitrator, let him walk.
- bixll

There would be at least a dozen teams who would take him at $500,000 in real money on a one year contract.

I wouldn't want anything in return - just clear the cap hit.
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Paul Dreger update... DREGER still believes Marner is getting offer sheeted. He's still saying that Leaf fans making fun of him on Twitter isn't bothering him at all...


- gergeswillems

Dude is making an ass of himself.

Dude is making an ass of himself.
- bixll

Exactly.

There would be at least a dozen teams who would take him at $500,000 in real money on a one year contract.

I wouldn't want anything in return - just clear the cap hit.
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- Atomic Wedgie

League Mini is $ 700,000 I believe. Either way, let him walk.

Wouldn't get anything for him in a trade, if his number is too high from the arbitrator, let him walk.
- bixll

And he won't go to the arbitrator - he knows the Leafs would walk.

The Senators qualified him at $4.3 million.

Roomer is that the Leafs have already verbally agreed to 1 year, $4.5 million.

However, I don't think I have to tell anyone here that sometimes hockey roomers aren't necessarily true.

If we can fit him under the cap, I'd prefer to do

The Law Solution ®

- Give him a $4 million signing bonus, $500,000 salary. Trade him the next day.

Bring in Jake at $4 million for 1 year - and a chance to prove his back isn't wonky.
- Atomic Wedgie

Jake Gardiner will not sign a 1 year contract. Teams are also weary of his back issues.

I like it.

or

Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Liljegren
Harpur - Ceci

then ultimately:

Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Liljegren
Dermott - Ceci
- MCharisma91

Ceci's going to play with Rielly because he's a "Defensive Specialist" or some poop.

League Mini is $ 685,000 I believe. Either way, let him walk.
- bixll

He'd be getting $4.5 million:

$4 million signing bonus on July 4th.

Trade him July 5th.

$500,000 in residual salary.

Cap hit is $4.5 million, but Arizona only has to pay him $500,000 in actual dollars.

It's a win-win.

And he won't go to the arbitrator - he knows the Leafs would walk.

The Senators qualified him at $4.3 million.

Roomer is that the Leafs have already verbally agreed to 1 year, $4.5 million.

However, I don't think I have to tell anyone here that sometimes hockey roomers aren't necessarily true.
- Atomic Wedgie

I thought he had filed for Arbitration. Which would be a get out of jail card.

Jake Gardiner will not sign a 1 year contract. Teams are also weary of his back issues.
- Drapz

Well then, frank him.

He'd be getting $4.5 million:

$4 million signing bonus on July 4th.

Trade him July 5th.

$500,000 in residual salary.

Cap hit is $4.5 million, but Arizona only has to pay him $500,000 in actual dollars.

It's a win-win.
- Atomic Wedgie

OK, I see... I am fine with it. Make it so...

And he won't go to the arbitrator - he knows the Leafs would walk.

The Senators qualified him at $4.3 million.

Roomer is that the Leafs have already verbally agreed to 1 year, $4.5 million.

However, I don't think I have to tell anyone here that sometimes hockey roomers aren't necessarily true.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think Dubas should walk. Ceci isn't worth 4.5 Mil.

Can a team win a cup with eleven players making under 800,000? We shall see
- Hardbalz

You mean a 4th line, a bottom pairing and a backup goalie ....

And the answer is yes. All teams prior to 1999 or so ....

I thought he had filed for Arbitration. Which would be a get out of jail card.
- bixll

Nope.

I know.

Crushing.

Although maybe we just need to give this guy a chance. Maybe with a little bit of encouragement, he can gain some confidence and play like...aaaaa...

....oh frank, I can't do it.

Damn.

Ceci sucks.

Well then, frank him.
- Atomic Wedgie

I really hope so

I think Dubas should walk. Ceci isn't worth 4.5 Mil.
- gergeswillems

Dubas can't walk. Ottawa gave him a qualifying offer, which the Leafs have to honour.

I think Dubas should walk. Ceci isn't worth 4.5 Mil.
- gergeswillems

Weak, Dubas just getting rid of Lou's poor signing.

Dubas can't walk. Ottawa gave him a qualifying offer, which the Leafs have to honour.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm confused. I thought Ceci was going to arbitration? Can't Dubas walk away from what the arbitrator awards him?

I'm confused. I thought Ceci was going to arbitration? Can't Dubas walk away from what the arbitrator awards him?
- gergeswillems

Yes, I see what you are saying. You are correct. You just have to wait until the arbitrator has settled the dispute or case.

Yes, I see what you are saying. You are correct. You just have to wait until the arbitrator has settled the dispute or case.
- bixll

Yes thank you.

Leafs are going to have $20M+ next year in available cap space (maybe a bit less if Kerfoot gets signed for more than 1 year) with only a backup and more cheap forwards outside of D to sign.

Resigning Barrie, Muzzin and Dermott is not completely out of the question, though if I had to guess we'll likely lose Muzz to FA.

At least one of Lily and Sandin are definitely on the team next year though, if not both, still at their ELCs for 2 and 3 years respectively.

Dubas has pulled off some serious magic.

I'm confused. I thought Ceci was going to arbitration? Can't Dubas walk away from what the arbitrator awards him?
- gergeswillems

Lemme lay it out for you:

- Ottawa gave him a qualifying offer of $4.3 million. This allowed them to retain his rights (yeah, not sure why they did that). Ceci has not yet accepted this offer, but I believe he can sorta kinda keep that on the side, and ultimately just accept it at a time of his choosing. Not 100% sure on the timing.

- Ceci can elect to go to arbitration. If the arbitrator awards him a contract bigger than his last one, the Leafs have the option of walking away. The general thinking in the hockey world (from what I've read) is that Ceci must know that he isn't going to get $4.3 million on the open market, so he's not going to ask for arbitration.

- The Leafs can elect to take him to arbitration. The hockey world agrees this is suicide - arbitration is Christmas in July/August for players. Like, every single franking time. But if the Leafs are the ones who asked for arbitration, they DO NOT have the option of walking away.

It's all moot anyways, as apparently the Leafs and Ceci have verbally agreed to one year, $4.5 million - just waiting for Greedy Mitch to sign.

Lemme lay it out for you:

- Ottawa gave him a qualifying offer of $4.3 million. This allowed them to retain his rights (yeah, not sure why they did that). Ceci has not yet accepted this offer, but I believe he can sorta kinda keep that on the side, and ultimately just accept it at a time of his choosing. Not 100% sure on the timing.

- Ceci can elect to go to arbitration. If the arbitrator awards him a contract bigger than his last one, the Leafs have the option of walking away. The general thinking in the hockey world (from what I've read) is that Ceci must know that he isn't going to get $4.3 million on the open market, so he's not going to ask for arbitration.

- The Leafs can elect to take him to arbitration. The hockey world agrees this is suicide - arbitration is Christmas in July/August for players. Like, every single franking time. But if the Leafs are the ones who asked for arbitration, they DO NOT have the option of walking away.

It's all moot anyways, as apparently the Leafs and Ceci have verbally agreed to one year, $4.5 million - just waiting for Greedy Mitch to sign.
- Atomic Wedgie

Ah I get it now. Thanks.