RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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I’d also rather have Hainsey then Dahlin with 1 minute left up a goal on the PK. I guess that settles it - ClarksonDavid As long as you're not playing the Bruins.
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I’d also rather have Hainsey then Dahlin with 1 minute left up a goal on the PK. I guess that settles it - ClarksonDavid
I understand what you were trying to do here.
But I feel like this went too far. |
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gamerdoc
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In light of Dubas stating they are likely done. Which lineup is superior?
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Moore - Spezza - Petan
Bracco
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
Harpur - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
Ennis - Gauthier - Brown
Moore
Reilly - Hainsey
Muzzin - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson - aminnes
Wow, that is one highly skilled but soft lineup. I don’t know how it’ll perform in the playoff series against Boston. |
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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Wow, that is one highly skilled but soft lineup. I don’t know how it’ll perform in the playoff series against Boston. - gamerdoc
Almost beat them with a broken gardiner and no kadri.
I don’t mind the makeup. It’s also not playoffs yet. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Wow, that is one highly skilled but soft lineup. I don’t know how it’ll perform in the playoff series against Boston. - gamerdoc
I say it won't be a problem.
Boston misses the playoffs this year |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Almost beat them with a broken gardiner and no kadri.
I don’t mind the makeup. It’s also not playoffs yet. - bryant
Its not anything yet.
But only playoffs matter. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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In light of Dubas stating they are likely done. Which lineup is superior?
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Moore - Spezza - Petan
Bracco
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
Harpur - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
Ennis - Gauthier - Brown
Moore
Reilly - Hainsey
Muzzin - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson - aminnes
Our new lineup is easily better.
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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Its not anything yet.
But only playoffs matter. - Fakepartofme
Not to mention you would hope that Matthews/marner/nylander/Johnsson and kapanen take steps forward too. |
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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Our new lineup is easily better. - RogerRoeper
Yes it is. |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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In light of Dubas stating they are likely done. Which lineup is superior?
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Moore - Spezza - Petan
Bracco
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
Harpur - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
Ennis - Gauthier - Brown
Moore
Reilly - Hainsey
Muzzin - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson - aminnes
This one easy.
Why do you ask?
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Id take both borgman and sandin over marincin ever setting foot in our lineup EVER again |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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This one easy.
Why do you ask? - .HOHO.
Meh, for fun. Didn't want other about Kawhi getting in and out of vehicles. |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Wow, that is one highly skilled but soft lineup. I don’t know how it’ll perform in the playoff series against Boston. - gamerdoc
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Meh, for fun. Didn't want other about Kawhi getting in and out of vehicles. because I'm trolling and hating on everything Dubas did even though it's obvious we are a WAY better team than on June 30th. - aminnes
oh |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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oh - .HOHO.
Wow you sure are delicate. How dare anyone disagree with her majesty. Why do you come here? You don't want to discuss things you just want to have a big circle jerk. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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In light of Dubas stating they are likely done. Which lineup is superior?
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Moore - Spezza - Petan
Bracco
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
Harpur - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
Ennis - Gauthier - Brown
Moore
Reilly - Hainsey
Muzzin - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson - aminnes
I think they're better. You're also not comparing apples to apples (edited). Last year's D at the start of the year was:
Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Ozhiganov - Dermott
to this year's
Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
?? - Dermott
I think Harpur is possibly an AHL guy. You'll have a battle in there between Sandin, Liljegren, Borgman, Harpur, Gravel . . . none of them are deal breakers obviously, but Sandin & Liljegren have potential to be more. As an RHD, Liljegren might have an inside track.
This year's D you get more offense generated from the back-end, but you are also a higher risk team. Barrie adds more offense than Gardiner, and his defense is really not that much worse. As with any stats, you can cherry pick ratings; I also saw the sportsnet article you like to cite. They're both giveaway machines, but Gardiner was worse. Is Ceci worse than Zaitsev? I don't know. At what level of suck do you have to argue who is worse? I like Muzzin more than Hainsey. And ?? is probably not going to be any worse than Ozhiganov.
For the forwards, I don't think Mikheyev gets pencilled in. You have competition on the 3rd line LW, and 4th line wings between Moore, Petan, Shore, Agostino, along with Mikeyev, Korshkov, Marchment, Bracco and an unlikely Engvall.
But you're replacing Marleau's indifference with some energy and hopefully skill. Maybe Bracco makes the third line. I know that Kerfoot is more of a passer, though, so having a shooter on the left side would help.
The fourth line is really up in the air. I liked Ennis, but Moore will be a great fit, and Spezza will be superior to the goat, I'd imagine. I don't know anything about Shore or Agostino, but if the make or break for our team comes down to the 4th line RW, we've all been horribly wrong about everything. |
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BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Captain Morgan Rielly Joined: 05.07.2013
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Someone mention a circle jerk? |
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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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In light of Dubas stating they are likely done. Which lineup is superior?
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Moore - Spezza - Petan
Bracco
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
Harpur - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson
Hymen - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
Ennis - Gauthier - Brown
Moore
Reilly - Hainsey
Muzzin - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Dermott
Marincin
Andersen
Sparks
Hutchinson - aminnes
Ima go top one.
Especially if Sandin or Liljegren are ready for bottom pair duty cone playoff time |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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I think they're better. You're also not comparing apples to apples (edited). Last year's D at the start of the year was:
Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Ozhiganov - Dermott
to this year's
Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
?? - Dermott
I think Harpur is possibly an AHL guy. You'll have a battle in there between Sandin, Liljegren, Borgman, Harpur, Gravel . . . none of them are deal breakers obviously, but Sandin & Liljegren have potential to be more. As an RHD, Liljegren might have an inside track.
This year's D you get more offense generated from the back-end, but you are also a higher risk team. Barrie adds more offense than Gardiner, and his defense is really not that much worse. As with any stats, you can cherry pick ratings; I also saw the sportsnet article you like to cite. They're both giveaway machines, but Gardiner was worse. Is Ceci worse than Zaitsev? I don't know. At what level of suck do you have to argue who is worse? I like Muzzin more than Hainsey. And ?? is probably not going to be any worse than Ozhiganov.
For the forwards, I don't think Mikheyev gets pencilled in. You have competition on the 3rd line LW, and 4th line wings between Moore, Petan, Shore, Agostino, along with Mikeyev, Korshkov, Marchment, Bracco and an unlikely Engvall.
But you're replacing Marleau's indifference with some energy and hopefully skill. Maybe Bracco makes the third line. I know that Kerfoot is more of a passer, though, so having a shooter on the left side would help.
The fourth line is really up in the air. I liked Ennis, but Moore will be a great fit, and Spezza will be superior to the goat, I'd imagine. I don't know anything about Shore or Agostino, but if the make or break for our team comes down to the 4th line RW, we've all been horribly wrong about everything. - Monkeypunk
Great post. |
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Someone mention a circle jerk? - BetterCallSaul
well there was a cirlce jerk going on before on how Calle Rosen was going to have a breakout year - but now that Dubas gave him up, nobody mentions him anymore.
(Rosen isn't good by the way) |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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Someone mention a circle jerk? - BetterCallSaul
That’s why I’m here. I didn’t know this was a hockey roomer sight. |
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I think they're better. You're also not comparing apples to apples (edited). Last year's D at the start of the year was:
Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Ozhiganov - Dermott
to this year's
Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
?? - Dermott
I think Harpur is possibly an AHL guy. You'll have a battle in there between Sandin, Liljegren, Borgman, Harpur, Gravel . . . none of them are deal breakers obviously, but Sandin & Liljegren have potential to be more. As an RHD, Liljegren might have an inside track.
This year's D you get more offense generated from the back-end, but you are also a higher risk team. Barrie adds more offense than Gardiner, and his defense is really not that much worse. As with any stats, you can cherry pick ratings; I also saw the sportsnet article you like to cite. They're both giveaway machines, but Gardiner was worse. Is Ceci worse than Zaitsev? I don't know. At what level of suck do you have to argue who is worse? I like Muzzin more than Hainsey. And ?? is probably not going to be any worse than Ozhiganov.
For the forwards, I don't think Mikheyev gets pencilled in. You have competition on the 3rd line LW, and 4th line wings between Moore, Petan, Shore, Agostino, along with Mikeyev, Korshkov, Marchment, Bracco and an unlikely Engvall.
But you're replacing Marleau's indifference with some energy and hopefully skill. Maybe Bracco makes the third line. I know that Kerfoot is more of a passer, though, so having a shooter on the left side would help.
The fourth line is really up in the air. I liked Ennis, but Moore will be a great fit, and Spezza will be superior to the goat, I'd imagine. I don't know anything about Shore or Agostino, but if the make or break for our team comes down to the 4th line RW, we've all been horribly wrong about everything. - Monkeypunk
Mikheyev and Shore will be on the team for sure.
Shore will be our main penalty killing C.
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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well there was a cirlce jerk going on before on how Calle Rosen was going to have a breakout year - but now that Dubas gave him up, nobody mentions him anymore.
(Rosen isn't good by the way) - MaximusAurelius
Breakout year? Most just said he’d be better than Oz and Marincin. A cheap 6/7 guy. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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I think they're better. You're also not comparing apples to apples (edited). Last year's D at the start of the year was:
Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Ozhiganov - Dermott
to this year's
Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Ceci
?? - Dermott
I think Harpur is possibly an AHL guy. You'll have a battle in there between Sandin, Liljegren, Borgman, Harpur, Gravel . . . none of them are deal breakers obviously, but Sandin & Liljegren have potential to be more. As an RHD, Liljegren might have an inside track.
This year's D you get more offense generated from the back-end, but you are also a higher risk team. Barrie adds more offense than Gardiner, and his defense is really not that much worse. As with any stats, you can cherry pick ratings; I also saw the sportsnet article you like to cite. They're both giveaway machines, but Gardiner was worse. Is Ceci worse than Zaitsev? I don't know. At what level of suck do you have to argue who is worse? I like Muzzin more than Hainsey. And ?? is probably not going to be any worse than Ozhiganov.
For the forwards, I don't think Mikheyev gets pencilled in. You have competition on the 3rd line LW, and 4th line wings between Moore, Petan, Shore, Agostino, along with Mikeyev, Korshkov, Marchment, Bracco and an unlikely Engvall.
But you're replacing Marleau's indifference with some energy and hopefully skill. Maybe Bracco makes the third line. I know that Kerfoot is more of a passer, though, so having a shooter on the left side would help.
The fourth line is really up in the air. I liked Ennis, but Moore will be a great fit, and Spezza will be superior to the goat, I'd imagine. I don't know anything about Shore or Agostino, but if the make or break for our team comes down to the 4th line RW, we've all been horribly wrong about everything. - Monkeypunk
Certainly the lower end guys will see movement, and it's good that they have created a situation with competition. One of the flaws of past regimes is the prospect pool knew they were never going to be called up, whereas now there is incentive. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Mikheyev and Shore will be on the team for sure.
Shore will be our main penalty killing C. - MaximusAurelius
I could see that. Kerfoot on the wing. |
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