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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:49 AM ET
Rielly - ??
Muzzin - Barrie
Dermott - Ceci

so trade Nylander for your topline RHD.
not sure if there is anyone fitting for that role though that could be had for Nylander (+)..

- MaximusAurelius


Nylander's not moving; Ceci's playing with Rielly or Muzzin, says Ceci/Dubas.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 8:50 AM ET
Nylander's not moving; Ceci's playing with Rielly or Muzzin, says Ceci/Dubas.
- gravyface


Ceci filed for arbitration, he's getting paid - in the KHL
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 3 @ 8:56 AM ET
Suck it dreger
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 3 @ 8:56 AM ET
Ceci filed for arbitration, he's getting paid - in the KHL
- winsix



So, Ceci just became a UFA.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:57 AM ET
Rielly - ??
Muzzin - Barrie
Dermott - Ceci

so trade Nylander for your topline RHD.
not sure if there is anyone fitting for that role though that could be had for Nylander (+)..

- MaximusAurelius

Dumba 👍

Although..... I prefer Jenner and Savard
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 3 @ 8:59 AM ET
No I was told that a stay at home D is someone who can skate and move the puck when I challenged them.

They don't even know what they want

- gravyface
I feel like stay at home defenseman have evolved a bit. They're exceptional in their own end, but can find an outlet pass or skate it very little into an area where they can push the puck forward. I just use Brandon Carlo as an example because I obviously watch him a lot. He can find an outlet pass and skate with it a bit, but you would never see him enter the offensive zone and rarely see him join the rush. I also don't think you really appreciate those players until you need one or realize that you have a really good one like Carlo
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
Ceci filed for arbitration, he's getting paid - in the KHL
- winsix


This situation is a little ridiculous.

Everyone knows Ceci sucks, yet we also know arbitration will give him a huge raise.

I feel like the system doesn't work.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 9:03 AM ET
This situation is a little ridiculous.

Everyone knows Ceci sucks, yet we also know arbitration will give him a huge raise.

I feel like the system doesn't work.

- Scabeh


It's wonderful, Leafs are not obliged to pay what the arbitrator awards.

Edit: They can do like Monty Python

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:04 AM ET
It wonderful, Leafs are not obliged to pay what the arbitrator awards.
- winsix


Oh of course. The Leafs are better off walking away from this.

I just mean, why is it the arbitrator ends up giving a player big money when no team would realistically give it to him.

Obviously the way the arbitrators evaluate players and their just value is wrong.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:05 AM ET
The killer rabbit.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 9:07 AM ET
The killer rabbit.
- Scabeh



Bought a new sex toy?
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:09 AM ET
Ceci filed for arbitration, he's getting paid - in the KHL
- winsix

I thought he signed for 4.5?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 3 @ 9:09 AM ET
Rielly - ??
Muzzin - Barrie
Dermott - Ceci

so trade Nylander for your topline RHD.
not sure if there is anyone fitting for that role though that could be had for Nylander (+)..

- MaximusAurelius

Dubas said ceci is playing with Rielly or Muzzin.
Maybe he gets bumped down to 3rd line when everyone is healthy and/or he sucks.

Dubas talks about being able to help improve with the leafs though.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:10 AM ET
my top 5.

1. Hot Apple pie w vanilla ice cream
2. Hot rhubarb pie w vanilla ice cream
3. Hot fudge brownie/ molten lava cake w vanilla ice cream
4. Hot gulab jamun w vanilla ice cream
5. Hot Raisin butter tarts w ice cream
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 3 @ 9:10 AM ET
I feel like stay at home defenseman have evolved a bit. They're exceptional in their own end, but can find an outlet pass or skate it very little into an area where they can push the puck forward. I just use Brandon Carlo as an example because I obviously watch him a lot. He can find an outlet pass and skate with it a bit, but you would never see him enter the offensive zone and rarely see him join the rush. I also don't think you really appreciate those players until you need one or realize that you have a really good one like Carlo
- RickJames77


That's just a good defenseman. Dubas on TSN alluded to modern vs. old school here:
"In Tyson’s case as well, get up the ice and defend using his mobility and press right away versus backing in. Those are the types of things I think of when I think of them. It is not the traditional back-in and run guys in the defensive zone. We want guys who get the puck quickly and then transition quickly so we don’t spend much time there."
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:10 AM ET
Bought a new sex toy?
- Steven_Seagull


This is highly disturbing.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:11 AM ET
my top 5.

1. Hot Apple pie w vanilla ice cream
2. Hot rhubarb pie w vanilla ice cream
3. Hot fudge brownie/ molten lava cake w vanilla ice cream
4. Hot gulab jamun w vanilla ice cream
5. Hot Raisin butter tarts w ice cream

- kaptaan


I feel like Vanilla ice cream should be your #1.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:12 AM ET
Rielly - ??
Muzzin - Barrie
Dermott - Ceci

so trade Nylander for your topline RHD.
not sure if there is anyone fitting for that role though that could be had for Nylander (+)..

- MaximusAurelius

Guy, we just traded a depth forward, not trading another.
No major moves coming
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:13 AM ET
Can a team win a cup with eleven players making under 800,000? We shall see
- Hardbalz

Who dat?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 9:14 AM ET
I thought he signed for 4.5?
- jimi james


Verbal according to Dreger, Cap Friendly indicates he is an RFA
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
I thought he signed for 4.5?
- jimi james


He filed for arbitration and has a qualifying offer from the Sens (that still sticks) worth 4.3M.

Dubas mentioned that "Ceci has an arbitration coming up this summer" in one of his pressers, so I suspect they're going to let the arbiter sort it out, at which point they can walk if they don't like it, get Gardiner back somehow, etc. etc.

It's actually super smart: you have another 6 weeks basically to look for better options and if nothing presents itself, you sign for what the arbiter awards him, which will likely be 4.5M.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
I feel like Vanilla ice cream should be your #1.
- Scabeh

It needs a partner... By itself I'm not as big a fan
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
Bought a new sex toy?
- Steven_Seagull

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 9:16 AM ET
Who dat?
- kaptaan


winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 9:17 AM ET
He filed for arbitration and has a qualifying offer from the Sens (that still sticks) worth 4.3M.

Dubas mentioned that "Ceci has an arbitration coming up this summer" in one of his pressers, so I suspect they're going to let the arbiter sort it out, at which point they can walk if they don't like it, get Gardiner back somehow, etc. etc.

It's actually super smart: you have another 6 weeks basically to look for better options and if nothing presents itself, you sign for what the arbiter awards him, which will likely be 4.5M.

- gravyface

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