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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
We have issues. Any team that misses does. Listen I like the way you guys are going about your business but my point still stands. A lot of money for those two guys. Neither is a center and trouba isn’t a #1. I’ll give you he’s a 2. Will they live up to it?

Who is getting traded to clear up the cap? Any chance of moving shattenkirk or is it Kreider? Rangers will be extremely young next year.

- Just5


Did you see our D last year? Trouba is definitely a #1 for us.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:04 AM ET
We have issues. Any team that misses does. Listen I like the way you guys are going about your business but my point still stands. A lot of money for those two guys. Neither is a center and trouba isn’t a #1. I’ll give you he’s a 2. Will they live up to it?

Who is getting traded to clear up the cap? Any chance of moving shattenkirk or is it Kreider? Rangers will be extremely young next year.

- Just5



When did any flyer play defense? Goalies go there to die because they can't play D, Bobovsky got resurrected in Columbus and is now a coveted goalie.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:11 AM ET
Did you see our D last year? Trouba is definitely a #1 for us.
- mdw7413

What does that mean Trouba isn't a #1? A number one defenseman or a first line defenseman? Because even if he's a #2 d-man, the top 2 d-men are usually on the first pairing. So he IS a #1.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jul 3 @ 11:18 AM ET
When did any flyer play defense? Goalies go there to die because they can't play D, Bobovsky got resurrected in Columbus and is now a coveted goalie.
- blueshirts_fan


See husks of Elliott, Eery (RIP, only meant in terms of NHL play), and Neuvirth and nod in agreement. Ever Mrazek was passable on the Wings and Canes. Just wait until they somehow ruin Carter Hart
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
Kind of old but also funny
https://me.me/i/the-offen...ka-the-defensive-12507518
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jul 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
See husks of Elliott, Emery (RIP, only meant in terms of NHL play), and Neuvirth and nod in agreement. Ever Mrazek was passable on the Wings and Canes. Just wait until they somehow ruin Carter Hart
- 2sticks1puck

Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jul 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
What does that mean Trouba isn't a #1? A number one defenseman or a first line defenseman? Because even if he's a #2 d-man, the top 2 d-men are usually on the first pairing. So he IS a #1.
- TheMessiah94


I was about to reply the same! "Your guy isn't a #1!!! He's only a top pairing guy!"
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jul 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
Kind of old but also funny
https://me.me/i/the-offen...ka-the-defensive-12507518

- blueshirts_fan


No Chris Kreider crash zone in front of the crease?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
We have issues. Any team that misses does. Listen I like the way you guys are going about your business but my point still stands. A lot of money for those two guys. Neither is a center and trouba isn’t a #1. I’ll give you he’s a 2. Will they live up to it?

Who is getting traded to clear up the cap? Any chance of moving shattenkirk or is it Kreider? Rangers will be extremely young next year.

- Just5

In 2 years the Rangers essentially have an open cap. Basically only will have Zib, Trouba and panarin on it. I am not worried about Trouba and Panarin taking up too much of it. The cap will rise as will all future contracts. Trouba at 7.5 million or so might not look that bad in 3 years.

But you are right. Rangers need to shed some salary right now. IMO Smith/Shatty one of them will be traded or bought out. Also I think Nam or maybe Buch is gone as well.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think getting Panarin is a huge deal for Kreider. Hes got someone else there to shoulder the load and he doesnt have to feel like hes gotta carry the team on his back as the longest tenured. forward they have. Kreider now wont always have to face opposing teams top defensive line. I think he might finally pop that 30 goal cherry.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:36 AM ET
I think getting Panarin is a huge deal for Kreider. Hes got someone else there to shoulder the load and he doesnt have to feel like hes gotta carry the team on his back as the longest tenured. forward they have. Kreider now wont always have to face opposing teams top defensive line. I think he might finally pop that 30 goal cherry.
- aecliptic


Or ya know be shown the door
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
Or ya know be shown the door
- blueshirts_fan


Obviously thats the other outcome. However, not sure they want to do it, unless they absolutely have to or they get an offer they cant refuse.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
What does that mean Trouba isn't a #1? A number one defenseman or a first line defenseman? Because even if he's a #2 d-man, the top 2 d-men are usually on the first pairing. So he IS a #1.
- TheMessiah94


I'm guessing he meant like a Burns, or Letang, Karlsson.. etc. The clear cut best d-man on the team. The guy you put out no matter the situation. Like Keith was for the Hawks when they won there last cup. That was just insane what he was doing.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'm guessing he meant like a Burns, or Letang, Karlsson.. etc. The clear cut best d-man on the team. The guy you put out no matter the situation. Like Keith was for the Hawks when they won there last cup. That was just insane what he was doing.
- mdw7413


Well if the going rate for a true #1 is 10-11mil, Trouba at 8mil is about right.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
I've said they have to do two of the three: buy out Smith, buy out/trade Strome, trade Nam. They can do other stuff, but these are probably the easiest options.

Shatty probably wouldn't get the return that we'd need. The second half of last season he was quietly solid. IMO it's worth keeping him this year. Kreider could get traded, but I'd want a real return for him and it might be a mistake to force that many young players high in the lineup.

- 2sticks1puck

If someone offered a 4th for Shattenkirk, full salary, you taking that?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jul 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
If someone offered a 4th for Shattenkirk, full salary, you taking that?
- nyrangers9479


In a vacuum no. However with our current cap, I think you'd have to at least think about it.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
If someone offered a 4th for Shattenkirk, full salary, you taking that?
- nyrangers9479


I think you'd have to, it would solve all of our problems
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:17 PM ET
I think you'd have to, it would solve all of our problems
- jimbro83

Ding ding ding, we have a winner
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 3 @ 12:18 PM ET
Ding ding ding, we have a winner
- nyrangers9479


does it have a chance of happening?

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
does it have a chance of happening?


- jimbro83

If he doesn’t even have the value of a 4th......
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
does it have a chance of happening?


- jimbro83

Isn’t that the guy that sent a pecker pic?
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Isn’t that the guy that sent a pecker pic?
- Slimtj100


his name is wiener which is funny all by itself, and yes
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:34 PM ET
Ferland still out there......don’t see how we fit him in the cap though.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
Ferland still out there......don’t see how we fit him in the cap though.
- nyrangers9479


we need to subtract, not add
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 3 @ 12:37 PM ET
his name is wiener which is funny all by itself, and yes
- blueshirts_fan

I’ve sent many a pecker pic over the years, I’m not a politician tho haha
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