Leave a pretty big hole in our lineup i think, 4 picks...meh...who knows what those will even become....we already know what we have with MM. I don't think he's worth 12.5....but I'm tight.
- Garnie

The only way Dubas even thinks about not matching if it's an obscene AAV and/or the 4 first rounders would be lottery picks. It would be stupid for a team like Detroit to offer sheet Marner and give up 4 lottery picks the next 4 years. Bye bye rebuild. Would be great for Toronto. Add a cheap blue chip player for 4 straight years? Something to think about. I can't see Yzerman doing that.

Lou has screwed up the Isles cap for years. How can people not see this?
- RogerRoeper

I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you think it is.

Nelson was projected to go for $4.9m over 6 years. He went for $6m.
Lee was projected to go for $6.5m over 7 years. He went for $6m.
Eberle was projected to go for $5.6m over 5 years. He went for $5.5m.

That's $1.5m in "overpayment", but the market has been overall more aggressive than projected.

Varlamov is probably about where I would figured. The only difference is that I would have kept Lehner if I were them.

The worst contracts on the Islanders, in my opinion, are Boychuk and Greiss, and Lou didn't give them out.

Alzner is gonna be in Laval.

Chariot will be fine. He's done well next to Byfuglien last season.

Clearly not the big "splash" we were hoping for but it's... "ok".
- Scabeh

Alzner in Laval - he's got three more years. They should buy him out, trade him with compensation or send him to Robidas Island no?

Agree! From Marner's point of view - he knows if he signs any OS, he's through as a Leaf at some point. He'll be burning his jammies and walking the plank.
- winsix

He really needs to think pretty hard about what he is actually doing

Meh. Term is relatively short and he's an upgrade over other LHD we currently have.

He should be a good pairing with Petry. At the very least an upgrade on Kulak.

Nothing to get too excited about but it's not a dreadful signing either... especially with all that cap space left.

I'm just glad we didn't overpay Gardiner.
- Scabeh

Yet.

Alzner in Laval - he's got three more years. They should buy him out, trade him with compensation or send him to Robidas Island no?
- winsix

Until his caphit becomes troublesome to acquire another player. There is no need to drag out his contract through a buyout.

And Alzner has a healthy 50 year old body so we can't send him to Robidas Island.

Yet.
- Monkeypunk

Until his caphit becomes troublesome to acquire another player. There is no need to drag out his contract through a buyout.

And Alzner has a healthy 50 year old body so we can't send him to Robidas Island.
- Scabeh

Alzner is gonna be in Laval.

Chariot will be fine. He's done well next to Byfuglien last season.

Clearly not the big "splash" we were hoping for but it's... "ok".
- Scabeh

Want to trade us Cole Fonstad?
We'll be happy to give up Ceci a top4 NHL d-man for him.

(seriously though, I think he'll be a very good mid-6 FW in NHL in a few seasons).

The only way Dubas even thinks about not matching if it's an obscene AAV and/or the 4 first rounders would be lottery picks. It would be stupid for a team like Detroit to offer sheet Marner and give up 4 lottery picks the next 4 years. Bye bye rebuild. Would be great for Toronto. Add a cheap blue chip player for 4 straight years? Something to think about. I can't see Yzerman doing that.
- gergeswillems

No. not right for Detroit. They know Marner does not make them contenders.

The Islanders fancy themselves contenders. I don't think anyone else sees them that way. They are much closer to being the team swept by the Hurricanes than they are the team that swept an aging, flawed and undermotivated Penguins team... and that is WITH Lehner having an extremely improbable season.

Want to trade us Cole Fonstad?
We'll be happy to give up Ceci a top4 NHL d-man for him.

(seriously though, I think he'll be a very good mid-6 FW in NHL in a few seasons).
- MaximusAurelius

I don't know much about him but I'd rather go with a maybe than a Ceci.

No. not right for Detroit. They know Marner does not make them contenders.

The Islanders fancy themselves contenders. I don't think anyone else sees them that way. They are much closer to being the team swept by the Hurricanes than they are the team that swept an aging, flawed and undermotivated Penguins team... and that is WITH Lehner having an extremely improbable season.
- Aetherial

I'm not sure how good the Isles are. They have a great coach who gets the most out of his teams. I saw this for years in Nashville. Barzal is a stud. Dobson will eventually be a stud. They have some good players like Lee. I don't know how good Varlamov is anymore. Everyone credits Lehner for playing so well but was it because of Trotz's system? It's like the Isles aren't good enough to win the Cup but aren't bad enough to miss the playoffs. If Marner did sign an offer sheet to play there those 4 first round picks would be in the 20-25 range most likely. Is that worth it for Marner?

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All this talk about the Islanders offer sheeting Mitch Marner seems to leave out the fact that the Isles have $8.65M in cap space with Beauvillier unsigned as an RFA. Yawn.
- Santo_44

Seems like tsn put the clamps on anymore marner dregers being dropped on twatter under their name.

Paul marner has moved on to using other desperate wanabe insiders like pagnota and ek.

Seems like tsn put the clamps on anymore marner dregers being dropped on twatter under their name.

Paul marner has moved on to using other desperate wanabe insiders like pagnota and ek.
- Tumbleweed

Pagnota is alright. Broke JT to Leafs.

Seems like tsn put the clamps on anymore marner dregers being dropped on twatter under their name.

Paul marner has moved on to using other desperate wanabe insiders like pagnota and ek.
- Tumbleweed

He definitely used Ek yesterday. 😂

I'm not sure how good the Isles are. They have a great coach who gets the most out of his teams. I saw this for years in Nashville. Barzal is a stud. Dobson will eventually be a stud. They have some good players like Lee. I don't know how good Varlamov is anymore. Everyone credits Lehner for playing so well but was it because of Trotz's system? It's like the Isles aren't good enough to win the Cup but aren't bad enough to miss the playoffs. If Marner did sign an offer sheet to play there those 4 first round picks would be in the 20-25 range most likely. Is that worth it for Marner?
- gergeswillems

Marner is better than 4 picks.

But, Marner at 13 Milly is overpaid and (frank)s up a teams cap. It ain't worth it.

Barzal is a ppg player too and he'll demand similar $$ next summer.

I don't see Lou being the guy to change the RFA landscape with a massive overpay.

Pagnota is alright. Broke JT to Leafs.
- ClarksonDavid

He's about to lose any credibility he has if he keeps going on this one.

At least ek can't lose what he doesn't have

I'm not sure how good the Isles are. They have a great coach who gets the most out of his teams. I saw this for years in Nashville. Barzal is a stud. Dobson will eventually be a stud. They have some good players like Lee. I don't know how good Varlamov is anymore. Everyone credits Lehner for playing so well but was it because of Trotz's system? It's like the Isles aren't good enough to win the Cup but aren't bad enough to miss the playoffs. If Marner did sign an offer sheet to play there those 4 first round picks would be in the 20-25 range most likely. Is that worth it for Marner?
- gergeswillems

Marner is better than 4 picks.

But, Marner at 13 Milly is overpaid and (frank)s up a teams cap. It ain't worth it.

Barzal is a ppg player too and he'll demand similar $$ next summer.

I don't see Lou being the guy to change the RFA landscape with a massive overpay.
- The Law

This. The whole thing is nonsense.

He's about to lose any credibility he has if he keeps going on this one.

At least ek can't lose what he doesn't have
- Tumbleweed

Yeah, what if he’s right?

I'm not sure how good the Isles are. They have a great coach who gets the most out of his teams. I saw this for years in Nashville. Barzal is a stud. Dobson will eventually be a stud. They have some good players like Lee. I don't know how good Varlamov is anymore. Everyone credits Lehner for playing so well but was it because of Trotz's system? It's like the Isles aren't good enough to win the Cup but aren't bad enough to miss the playoffs. If Marner did sign an offer sheet to play there those 4 first round picks would be in the 20-25 range most likely. Is that worth it for Marner?
- gergeswillems

I agree with most of what you say here. The NYI are have a very good coach, Lee and Barzal are very good. What remains to be seen though is the goaltending and how much the Flyers, Rangers and Devils have improved. These are three non-playoff teams that are improved. I cannot see Columbus making the playoffs this year, but Montreal could be a wildcard. So I see NYI contending for a wildcard at best this year.

Can the Leafs even match a 10.5M offer sheet? Giving up 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Marner is not a bad trade at all.

Marner is better than 4 picks.

But, Marner at 13 Milly is overpaid and (frank)s up a teams cap. It ain't worth it.

Barzal is a ppg player too and he'll demand similar $$ next summer.

I don't see Lou being the guy to change the RFA landscape with a massive overpay.
- The Law

Exactly. It doesn't make sense. 4 1sts and a contract that will be exaggerated for the first 3 years at least, which would handicap any team . . .

Can the Leafs even match a 10.5M offer sheet? Giving up 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Marner is not a bad trade at all.
- AK27

they match

they match
- Aetherial

I don’t even think an offer sheet will happen.