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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 5 @ 11:57 AM ET
Can the Leafs even match a 10.5M offer sheet? Giving up 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Marner is not a bad trade at all.
- AK27

Let's say Leafs let Marner walk. Who are they spending 10.5 Mil in cap space on this year? Do they sign Laine or Connor to an offer sheet? Avs have cap space galore so makes no sense to go after Raantanen.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
Marner will sign for 3 years at 9.8 per and you'll all like it.

winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 12:00 PM ET
Marner will sign for 3 years at 9.8 per and you'll all like it.


- Fakepartofme

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
Can the Leafs even match a 10.5M offer sheet? Giving up 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd for Marner is not a bad trade at all.
- AK27

OMG.
That is a horrible trade for fack sacks.
Jesus, Marner is worth much more to the leafs than 2 1st, 2nd and a 3rd.

The leafs are in win mode right now...not build mode.

No one is offer sheeting marner.
AK27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, Qc
Joined: 04.03.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:02 PM ET
Let's say Leafs let Marner walk. Who are they spending 10.5 Mil in cap space on this year? Do they sign Laine or Connor to an offer sheet? Avs have cap space galore so makes no sense to go after Raantanen.
- gergeswillems


I don't think the Leafs can offer sheet anyone, they don't have the picks available to do so.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jul 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
I don't think the Leafs can offer sheet anyone, they don't have the picks available to do so.
- AK27


Then you should really educate yourself
AK27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, Qc
Joined: 04.03.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
Then you should really educate yourself
- poopstash


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reefguy69
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.15.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:07 PM ET
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- AK27

They can offer sheet anyone they want...cap not withstanding
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
The Leafs should offersheet Marner... $10.25Mx6. It's a win/win for them.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
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- AK27

Renseigne-toi auprès les conditions de fiches d'offre..
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
Marner will sign for 3 years at 9.8 per and you'll all like it.


- Fakepartofme

That’d be a bruuutal deal
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:09 PM ET
I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you think it is.

Nelson was projected to go for $4.9m over 6 years. He went for $6m.
Lee was projected to go for $6.5m over 7 years. He went for $6m.
Eberle was projected to go for $5.6m over 5 years. He went for $5.5m.

That's $1.5m in "overpayment", but the market has been overall more aggressive than projected.

Varlamov is probably about where I would figured. The only difference is that I would have kept Lehner if I were them.

The worst contracts on the Islanders, in my opinion, are Boychuk and Greiss, and Lou didn't give them out.

- Monkeypunk


It's not what is "Projected", it's what you are building for years to come. Like Marleau and Zaitsev, he overpays for supporting pieces. Dubas lets those guys walk and spends his $ primarily on a young core of stars.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
Seems like tsn put the clamps on anymore marner dregers being dropped on twatter under their name.

Paul marner has moved on to using other desperate wanabe insiders like pagnota and ek.

- Tumbleweed


Therr was a lot of "I turn the dial when Dreger comes on" comments on Twitter. That's scary for TSN.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:13 PM ET
Gardiner, most underrated player in NHL history

-Tanner

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:16 PM ET
It's not what is "Projected", it's what you are building for years to come. Like Marleau and Zaitsev, he overpays for supporting pieces. Dubas lets those guys walk and spends his $ primarily on a young core of stars.
- RogerRoeper


Sure, but Nelson is 27. Eberle and Lee are 29. Lee's contract may stretch until he's a little longer in the tooth, but he'll still only be 35/36.

None of the contracts are untradeable either. They're at a decent AAV. I'm not a gigantic fan of any of these players either, but they were a piece of a successful Islanders team last year, and the coach and GM thought they should return.

It's not about Lou vs. Dubas anymore. Lou has his team that came with its challenges. Dubas has his team that has its challenges.

We don't have a lot of guys entering their UFA years to consider. Dubas let Gardiner walk because he couldn't afford him, but if we had more room under the cap, I think he would have tendered him an offer.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 5 @ 12:17 PM ET
Renseigne-toi auprès les conditions de fiches d'offre..
- MaximusAurelius


That poster is about as bright as the guy in his avatar.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:17 PM ET
Gardiner, most underrated player in NHL history

-Tanner


- Symba007

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
That poster is about as bright as the guy in his avatar.
- TrashPanda


Yeah -- I don't like Will Smith either.







RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
Sure, but Nelson is 27. Eberle and Lee are 29. Lee's contract may stretch until he's a little longer in the tooth, but he'll still only be 35/36.

None of the contracts are untradeable either. They're at a decent AAV. I'm not a gigantic fan of any of these players either, but they were a piece of a successful Islanders team last year, and the coach and GM thought they should return.

It's not about Lou vs. Dubas anymore. Lou has his team that came with its challenges. Dubas has his team that has its challenges.

We don't have a lot of guys entering their UFA years to consider. Dubas let Gardiner walk because he couldn't afford him, but if we had more room under the cap, I think he would have tendered him an offer.

- Monkeypunk


Ok, I'm just making the point he is tying-up a considerable amount of players Dubas would let walk. That aren't "Core Pieces" at all. And trading them means moving potential picks over and over.

He had a ton of cap this summer. I think he's blown it.

BTW, Dubas also let JVR, ozak and Komorov walk.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:18 PM ET

- AdamFrench

He is truly the most underrated player in NHL history - he should be considered a superstar
-Tanner
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
Yeah -- I don't like Will Smith either.


- MaximusAurelius



.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
He is truly the most underrated player in NHL history - he should be considered a superstar
-Tanner

- Symba007


RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 5 @ 12:25 PM ET

- .HOHO.

Sounds about right.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
He is truly the most underrated player in NHL history - he should be considered a superstar
-Tanner

- Symba007



Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:33 PM ET
Ok, I'm just making the point he is tying-up a considerable amount of players Dubas would let walk. That aren't "Core Pieces" at all. And trading them means moving potential picks over and over.

He had a ton of cap this summer. I think he's blown it.

BTW, Dubas also let JVR, ozak and Komorov walk.

- RogerRoeper


I think many would argue that Lee, Nelson and to a lesser extent Eberle are parts of the Islanders core.

With the capmageddon of Marner, Nylander, and Matthews all looming, JVR and Bozak were likely never even considerations for extension at their expected prices and term. But they were less "core" as well.

I think the Komorov signing by Lou was a poor decision, especially at $3m for 4 years.
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