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Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
Let's say Leafs let Marner walk. Who are they spending 10.5 Mil in cap space on this year? Do they sign Laine or Connor to an offer sheet? Avs have cap space galore so makes no sense to go after Raantanen.
- gergeswillems

Michael Ferland x 1
Patrick Maroon x 1
Dan Girardi x 1
Hold the remaining cap space to avoid putting Horton on LTIR until absolutely necessary to avoid overages seeping into next year and add a player at deadline.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
They can offer sheet anyone they want...cap not withstanding
- reefguy69



With next year first going to Carolina and unless the Leafs don't make the playoff they can offer sheet a player but said player would need to sign it and the compensation would be a 2nd rnd pick .
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
With next year first going to Carolina and unless the Leafs don't make the playoff they can offer sheet a player but said player would need to sign it and the compensation would be a 2nd rnd pick .
- zazzle

Or they can trade for their 1st from Carolina, but that doesn't make much sense.
AK27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, Qc
Joined: 04.03.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
With next year first going to Carolina and unless the Leafs don't make the playoff they can offer sheet a player but said player would need to sign it and the compensation would be a 2nd rnd pick .
- zazzle


Let's say the Leafs match a 10.5M offer sheet, they will have to trade some contracts to be below the cap before the season starts right?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
depends on the communication between Marner's camp and Dubas.

Marner only signs an offersheet with a team he wants to play for (again, I don't think it will be NYI, but we'll see).
the offersheet option is much more interesting for Marner because:
1/ he gets to pick his contract (team he would be traded to still need to agree on a contract with him)
2/ he gets to pick the team ; Toronto or offersheet team X. (in a trade, Leafs would hold all the cards).

I personally think that if Marner signs with NYI, leafs should let him go.
If he signs with a big team (NYR/MTL) then Leafs should match.
Reasoning is that I can understand signing with one of these other original six teams where it is really not only about money, but as well as being part of something big (like in Toronto) - while signing an offersheet with NYI shows his motivations are different (money, being in NYC, maybe being on same team with Martin his friend (?) , etc.).

so I could respect him signing an offersheet with MTL/NYR, not with NYI - so you let him go in the latter case.

- MaximusAurelius

Great post
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
Let's say the Leafs match a 10.5M offer sheet, they will have to trade some contracts to be below the cap before the season starts right?
- AK27


Nope.

Hortons LTIR.

And also with dermott and Hyman being out the leafs will have about 3-4 million in space.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
With next year first going to Carolina and unless the Leafs don't make the playoff they can offer sheet a player but said player would need to sign it and the compensation would be a 2nd rnd pick .
- zazzle


The draft picks must available in the nearest entry draft, unless the compensation requires two or more draft picks in the same round: an extra year can be used to for compensation for these picks (if two 1st round picks are required, the club must have two 1st round picks available in the next three drafts)

from https://www.capfriendly.c...sheet-faq#club-submitting
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
I figured out cap friendlys higher cap estimate...

They have 13 forwards, 8 d and 2 goalchies...not counting marner. So cap space is actually 4.7ish plus hortons ltir. So 10 is the magic number.

That's for the poster in the last thread that was confused why his number was different.

- mykokes



is there some clause in the CBA ... you can over by 5 - 10% during the summer?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 1:08 PM ET
Marner sign an offer-sheet yet?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:08 PM ET
is there some clause in the CBA ... you can over by 5 - 10% during the summer?
- BorjeFan4Ever


Yes. You can go 10% over, and you can also place a player who will not play on the team in the first 2 weeks of the season on LTIR during the off-season as well.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:13 PM ET
Marner sign an offer-sheet yet?
- Steven_Seagull

KILLER
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
Michael Ferland x 1
Patrick Maroon x 1
Dan Girardi x 1
Hold the remaining cap space to avoid putting Horton on LTIR until absolutely necessary to avoid overages seeping into next year and add a player at deadline.

- Deeps27



put an offer sheet in on Brandon Carlo if Marner signs elsewhere. Bruins will no doubt sign McAvoy as their priority or offer sheet Mantha from Detroit... or Edmondson from St. Louis

this presumes you would have 4 first round pics coming ... and therefore have collateral to position trades

before going after more know quantities like Ferland.


Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
KILLER
- Symba007



Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:17 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull

sorry, I meant Kill Her
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
put an offer sheet in on Brandon Carlo if Marner signs elsewhere. Bruins will no doubt sign McAvoy as their priority or offer sheet Mantha from Detroit... or Edmondson from St. Louis

this presumes you would have 4 first round pics coming ... and therefore have collateral to position trades

before going after more know quantities like Ferland.

- BorjeFan4Ever

Like this.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
Kevin labanc is plausible offer sheet target.

Makes a lot more sense than marner.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Gardiner, most underrated player in NHL history

-Tanner


- Symba007


The only thing that's funnier than that statement is the fact that dozens of people actually took it seriously and can't realize that they're being (frank)ed with.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
The only thing that's funnier than that statement is the fact that dozens of people actually took it seriously and can't realize that they're being (frank)ed with.
- JohnFergusonJr

They fall for it every single time he does it.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 1:43 PM ET
Kevin labanc is plausible offer sheet target.

Makes a lot more sense than marner.

- Tumbleweed



TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:44 PM ET

- winsix

JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
Michael Ferland x 1
Patrick Maroon x 1
Dan Girardi x 1
Hold the remaining cap space to avoid putting Horton on LTIR until absolutely necessary to avoid overages seeping into next year and add a player at deadline.

- Deeps27


Leafs would instantly become a worse team.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
The only thing that's funnier than that statement is the fact that dozens of people actually took it seriously and can't realize that they're being (frank)ed with.
- JohnFergusonJr

It's not a joke.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:50 PM ET
It's not a joke.
- AdamFrench


That's what they said about Andy Kaufman.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:53 PM ET
That's what they said about Andy Kaufman.
- JohnFergusonJr

What about Charlie?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
What about Charlie?
- AdamFrench

the superior kaufman
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