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winsix
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Jul 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
could be loaned to another AHL team
- dmnted


Preferably a sh!thole of a town for mouthing off publicly



JohnFergusonJr
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Jul 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
He's a back up goalie that will get maybe 15 to 20 games. He'll be fine, much better than Sparks and numbers similar if not better than McIlhenny before he signed with the Leafs. Relax with the back up.
- winsix


Nah, he's poop.

With the Leafs D being leaky defensively and the new addition of high risk offensive defensemen, it's really important the Leafs have a good back-up.

Last year, we saw both goalies who went to the finals play 40-50 games.

It's time the Leafs give Andersen a legit back-up and Hutchison isn't it.
gravyface
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Jul 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
I think Marner OF is baloney - Dubas can match up to $12.5 if he has to and I think he would. I can't see any team offering $12.5 for 5 to 7 years for MM and also giving up four firsts.

Laine more likely to get an offer sheet. With the so-so season he had and his giant ego, he will likely want alot more than the Jets will offer. He's probably worth a $9 million offer.

- winsix


No way he matches that; insane. He's nowhere near McDavid.

4 1sts, tons of cap space, see ya Mitchy.

We could explore trade options in earnest for a top 6 winger (Kreider, Puljujarvi, etc.), sign some top 9 depth in Dzingel; resign Gardiner and/or McQuaid for veteran depth.

winsix
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Jul 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
No way he matches that; insane. He's nowhere near McDavid.

4 1sts, tons of cap space, see ya Mitchy.

We could explore trade options in earnest for a top 6 winger (Kreider, Puljujarvi, etc.), sign some top 9 depth in Dzingel; resign Gardiner and/or McQuaid for veteran depth.

- gravyface


If the offer happens, which it probably won't I would think he matches it. At the risk of repeating myself. This offer sheet signing probably happened before your time:


On July 13th 1990, Capitals GM David Poile decided not to match the St. Louis Blues’ Free Agent contract offer to defenseman Scott Stevens. As compensation for their loss, the Capitals received first-round picks in 1991 through 1995. The players selected by the Capitals were: Trevor Halverson, Sergei Gonchar, Brendan Witt, Nolan Baumgartner and Miika Elomo.


Scott Stevens won cups and is in the HOF, most of the picks were sh!t, Gonchar was ok but not Scott Stevens. If matching the offer means unloading Ceci, Dubas does it IMO.
Leafs43
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Jul 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
No way he matches that; insane. He's nowhere near McDavid.

4 1sts, tons of cap space, see ya Mitchy.

We could explore trade options in earnest for a top 6 winger (Kreider, Puljujarvi, etc.), sign some top 9 depth in Dzingel; resign Gardiner and/or McQuaid for veteran depth.

- gravyface


All of this.

But I don't think Marner will sign an offer sheet. I imagine he wants to stay a leaf and doesn't want to threaten that by signing an offer the Leafs can't match.


Leafs43
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Jul 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
If the offer happens, which it probably won't I would think he matches it. At the risk of repeating myself. This offer sheet signing probably happened before your time:




Scott Stevens won cups and is in the HOF, most of the picks were sh!t, Gonchar was ok but not Scott Stevens. If matching the offer means unloading Ceci, Dubas does it IMO.

- winsix


12.5 mil is too much for Mitch.

Especially if he regresses into a 65ish point player. (I doubt it, but not out of the question) That contract will be unmovable.


gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
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Jul 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
If the offer happens, which it probably won't I would think he matches it. At the risk of repeating myself. This offer sheet signing probably happened before your time:




Scott Stevens won cups and is in the HOF, most of the picks were sh!t, Gonchar was ok but not Scott Stevens. If matching the offer means unloading Ceci, Dubas does it IMO.

- winsix


I remember that. Marner is a very good player, but nobody's going to offer that anyways, nor would the Leafs match. Totally different league now: picks and cap space gives us a lot of power and flexibility.
JohnFergusonJr
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Jul 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
If the offer happens, which it probably won't I would think he matches it. At the risk of repeating myself. This offer sheet signing probably happened before your time:




Scott Stevens won cups and is in the HOF, most of the picks were sh!t, Gonchar was ok but not Scott Stevens. If matching the offer means unloading Ceci, Dubas does it IMO.

- winsix


Yup, this is what people are forgetting. If the Leafs get four 1st round picks, they aren't the type of picks that will get you another Marner. Depending on the team, you're talking about four very late 1st round picks. And while those are useful for filling out your roster with cheap ELCs, they rarely yield a Marner.

And it takes more time. Time the Leafs won't have.
winsix
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Jul 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
Nah, he's poop.

With the Leafs D being leaky defensively and the new addition of high risk offensive defensemen, it's really important the Leafs have a good back-up.

Last year, we saw both goalies who went to the finals play 40-50 games.

It's time the Leafs give Andersen a legit back-up and Hutchison isn't it.

- JohnFergusonJr


Leafs have a good puck position offense. Play will be in the offensive zone. The defense is decent. I disagree with you. Much like UG (are you him?) you seem to complain and female dog about alot. Would you complain if the Leafs won the cup in seven --- that they did not sweep? Back up goaltending is a very low priority, they give Hutchinson a chance and if he trips over his d!ck, they bring in Woll or someone else.

Last year's playoffs were an anomaly - 7 teams that were considered cup contenders were eliminated in the opening round. Of the teams that advanced to the second round only Boston and possibly San Jose were expected to be there. Please don't use last year's playoffs as a measuring stick.

JohnFergusonJr
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Jul 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
Leafs have a good puck position offense. Play will be in the offensive zone. The defense is decent. I disagree with you. Much like UG (are you him?) you seem to complain and female dog about alot. Would you complain if the Leafs won the cup in seven --- that they did not sweep? Back up goaltending is a very low priority, they give Hutchinson a chance and if he trips over his d!ck, they bring in Woll or someone else.

Last year's playoffs were an anomaly - 7 teams that were considered cup contenders were eliminated in the opening round. Of the teams that advanced to the second round only Boston and possibly San Jose were expected to be there. Please don't use last year's playoffs as a measuring stick.

- winsix


winsix
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Jul 6 @ 3:06 PM ET
No way he matches that; insane. He's nowhere near McDavid.

4 1sts, tons of cap space, see ya Mitchy.

We could explore trade options in earnest for a top 6 winger (Kreider, Puljujarvi, etc.), sign some top 9 depth in Dzingel; resign Gardiner and/or McQuaid for veteran depth.

- gravyface


Marner is more than a top six forward. He scored more last year as a 21 year old than Panarin at 26. Puljujarvi may turn out ok, he's done nothing so far. He's an RFA and I doubt he gets serious money this year as an RFA. None of the players you mention are even remotely close to Marner in ability.
Santo_44
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Jul 6 @ 3:07 PM ET

- JohnFergusonJr

Can’t wait to see you talk in circles here
Tumbleweed
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Jul 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
Preferably a sh!thole of a town for mouthing off publicly
- winsix


Utica sounds nice in the winter
Atomic Wedgie
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Jul 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
Marner is more than a top six forward. He scored more last year as a 21 year old than Panarin at 26. Puljujarvi may turn out ok, he's done nothing so far. He's an RFA and I doubt he gets serious money this year as an RFA. None of the players you mention are even remotely close to Marner in ability.
- winsix

Playing with Tavares.

Yes, they were good for each other.

But he’s not the best winger in the game
Roadrunner75
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Jul 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
Can’t wait to see you talk in circles here
- Santo_44


Could we not and just say he did???
Atomic Wedgie
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Jul 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
Utica sounds nice in the winter
- Tumbleweed

Motivation for playing well - to get the hell out of there!
JohnFergusonJr
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Jul 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
Playing with Tavares.

Yes, they were good for each other.

But he’s not the best winger in the game

- Atomic Wedgie


Not yet but he could be very soon.

He was 3rd in points among RW, 3rd in primary assists. And he's still 22.

Yeah, he was playing with Tavares but if we want Tavares' contract to age well, wouldn't we want a top 3 winger (potentially better as he hits his prime) beside him for the long haul?

Yeah, obviously, we all want him at 9 million a year but if somebody forces us to pay more, he could still be worth it. And you can't replace Marner with four 1sts.
Landsbergfan
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Jul 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
Since Kaw signed for the Clippers. Big chance Marner sign for the Lakers! Kings to CAP-strapped!........... stay tuned!..........more to cum...💋 Source: EK ........please discuss this rumor!
BetterCallSaul
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Jul 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
You guys are still talking about this? It's not going to happen.
rubberduckies
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Jul 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
How high will these 1sts be?

anyone saying "bye mitch thanks for the 1sts" will be terribly disappointed.

you'll be hoping to draft someone with half the skill as mitch

- Cherry--Skoal

28,29,26,30 . four firsts
aminnes
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Jul 6 @ 3:25 PM ET
Playing with Tavares.

Yes, they were good for each other.

But he’s not the best winger in the game

- Atomic Wedgie


Didn't he get 19 goals and 61 points playing 16 mins a game on the 3rd and 4th lines? As a rookie?
jimi james
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Jul 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
Since Kaw signed for the Clippers. Big chance Marner sign for the Lakers! Kings to CAP-strapped!........... stay tuned!..........more to cum...💋 Source: EK ........please discuss this rumor!
- Landsbergfan

K you need to calm the (frank) down before you stroke out
JohnFergusonJr
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Jul 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
28,29,26,30 . four firsts
- rubberduckies


Even worse than the draft pick locations, the Leafs get significantly weaker as a team and it will take years and years for those draft picks to become anything.

In that time, Matthew's contract runs out. Andersen, Rielly and so on. All these guys will have become UFAs.
aminnes
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Jul 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
Not yet but he could be very soon.

He was 3rd in points among RW, 3rd in primary assists. And he's still 22.

Yeah, he was playing with Tavares but if we want Tavares' contract to age well, wouldn't we want a top 3 winger (potentially better as he hits his prime) beside him for the long haul?

Yeah, obviously, we all want him at 9 million a year but if somebody forces us to pay more, he could still be worth it. And you can't replace Marner with four 1sts.

- JohnFergusonJr


I though Marner was second, and only 1 behind Kucherov in primary assists.
winsix
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Jul 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
Playing with Tavares.

Yes, they were good for each other.

But he’s not the best winger in the game

- Atomic Wedgie


Unfortunately, timing of when players sign has more to do with their skill level in today's NHL. Which is why McKinnon makes much less than Aho for example.
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