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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 5 @ 9:17 PM ET
Even if they were late 1sts you could definitely turn 4 1st and that cap space into a top pairing dman and a top 9 winger.
- HealthyScratch6

Ya you could always parlay them, but unless you hit the jackpot with a trade or draft pick then you would always be looking at marner and wishing you had him back.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:24 PM ET
Ya you could always parlay them, but unless you hit the jackpot with a trade or draft pick then you would always be looking at marner and wishing you had him back.
- bryant

You can trade the picks for more of a sure thing. Not many d in the league you couldn't acquire for 3 1sts.
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 9:46 PM ET
What if the AVs gave Marner an offer sheet?
They can afford it, and can afford to give up 4 late 1sts.

That one would probably hurt the most.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM ET
What if the AVs gave Marner an offer sheet?
They can afford it, and can afford to give up 4 late 1sts.

That one would probably hurt the most.

- golfingsince

Avs have a ton of cap space BUT going forward, they will be maxed-out before you know it with their young talent. lots of guys to sign.
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 9:49 PM ET
You can trade the picks for more of a sure thing. Not many d in the league you couldn't acquire for 3 1sts.
- HealthyScratch6


I look at 1st round pick positioning.

I mean picks 25,26,27 are nice and all but they don't replace a top dman. Would you trade Reilly for those picks?

I think a top D prospect would be included in any deal for a top defender, even if it only meant 2 firsts were going.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 5 @ 9:52 PM ET
I look at 1st round pick positioning.

I mean picks 25,26,27 are nice and all but they don't replace a top dman. Would you trade Reilly for those picks?

I think a top D prospect would be included in any deal for a top defender, even if it only meant 2 firsts were going.

- golfingsince

You don't think a rebuilding team would ship out their top dman for 3 first. The next one might be predictable but the 3rd could be a lottery. No team that is a lock to finish top 5 in the league have the cap space to offer sheet either way.
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 9:54 PM ET
Avs have a ton of cap space BUT going forward, they will be maxed-out before you know it with their young talent. lots of guys to sign.
- RogerRoeper


For sure, but they also won't be drafting high again with their own pick for the foreseeable future unless something goes horribly wrong. They'd still have 13 players under contract for around $60M next year including Rantanen and Marner.

Like I said, I think they're the worst case scenario.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
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Jul 5 @ 9:55 PM ET
What if the AVs gave Marner an offer sheet?
They can afford it, and can afford to give up 4 late 1sts.

That one would probably hurt the most.

- golfingsince

Hi, golfingsince.

Welcome to 42 minutes ago. You were very close by I already thought of this.

I am still unsure of the answer but I like where your head is at.

Regards,
Bryant

golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 9:56 PM ET
You don't think a rebuilding team would ship out their top dman for 3 first. The next one might be predictable but the 3rd could be a lottery. No team that is a lock to finish top 5 in the league have the cap space to offer sheet either way.
- HealthyScratch6


Who are you thinking, someone like Doughty?

Like I said, I'd want a blue chip D prospect in the deal. Teams will be lining up for a player like that, 3 late firsts really isn't that strong.
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 9:57 PM ET
Hi, golfingsince.

Welcome to 42 minutes ago. You were very close by I already thought of this.

I am still unsure of the answer but I like where your head is at.

Regards,
Bryant

- bryant


You'll have to forgive me for not backreading this thread.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 9:58 PM ET
Who are you thinking, someone like Doughty?

Like I said, I'd want a blue chip D prospect in the deal. Teams will be lining up for a player like that, 3 late firsts really isn't that strong.

- golfingsince

Doughty is what came to mind but over time im sure other would open up. Dumping doughtys cap hit I'd say they would jump at 3 1sts. Their pick will be high and then they'll have another pick they could use to move up or look for a steel. I probably wouldn't do 3 1sts for Doughty at this point but if you wanted to make sure you got him you could.
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
You'll have to forgive me for not backreading this thread.
- golfingsince

You bring Colton Orr, tiger Williams and Wendel Clarke back for your game against Colorado and hope it’s early in the year😀
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
You bring Colton Orr, tiger Williams and Wendel Clarke back for your game against Colorado and hope it’s early in the year😀
- jribout



I'd probably do it if I was Sakic.
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 10:09 PM ET
Who are you thinking, someone like Doughty?

Like I said, I'd want a blue chip D prospect in the deal. Teams will be lining up for a player like that, 3 late firsts really isn't that strong.

- golfingsince
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Or you use the 4 1sts to get rentals at the deadline 4 years in a row for the playoff run.... good for the cap too
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 10:11 PM ET
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Or you use the 4 1sts to get rentals at the deadline 4 years in a row for the playoff run.... good for the cap too

- jribout

People questioning the Tavares signing...... are you better off with 5 years of Mitch or 6 more years of JT and 4 1sts?
Camel
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
I just checked the names on the Stanley cup and Mitch Marner isn’t on there. Get real buddy. The money Mariners agent is trying to get is beyond ridiculous and the Leafs GM Dubas should make that very clear and part ways.
A kid who is good but hasn’t won a thing should be put in his place. I’m a Leaf fan but this gone way to far.
Camel
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 04.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
I just checked the names on the Stanley cup and Mitch Marner isn’t on there. Get real buddy. The money Mariners agent is trying to get is beyond ridiculous and the Leafs GM Dubas should make that very clear and part ways.
A kid who is good but hasn’t won a thing should be put in his place. I’m a Leaf fan but this gone way to far.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 10:18 PM ET
People questioning the Tavares signing...... are you better off with 5 years of Mitch or 6 more years of JT and 4 1sts?
- jribout

Better with more years of JT and Mitch together which is great because that's what we'll have.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 10:22 PM ET
I just checked the names on the Stanley cup and Mitch Marner isn’t on there. Get real buddy. The money Mariners agent is trying to get is beyond ridiculous and the Leafs GM Dubas should make that very clear and part ways.
A kid who is good but hasn’t won a thing should be put in his place. I’m a Leaf fan but this gone way to far.

- Camel

5 days is too far? Should all the other RFAs who haven't signed yet be traded too?
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
People questioning the Tavares signing...... are you better off with 5 years of Mitch or 6 more years of JT and 4 1sts?
- jribout


I think years 4-6 of JT's contributions will help determine that.

golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 10:24 PM ET
I just checked the names on the Stanley cup and Mitch Marner isn’t on there. Get real buddy. The money Mariners agent is trying to get is beyond ridiculous and the Leafs GM Dubas should make that very clear and part ways.
A kid who is good but hasn’t won a thing should be put in his place. I’m a Leaf fan but this gone way to far.

- Camel


IF you look closer it's right beside Mathews and Tavares.
AK27
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 04.03.2008

Jul 5 @ 10:44 PM ET
IF you look closer it's right beside Mathews and Tavares.
- golfingsince


Right, if Dubas didn't put Nylander or Matthews in their place, Marner is more than entitled to get what he thinks he deserves
golfingsince
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Jul 5 @ 10:51 PM ET
Right, if Dubas didn't put Nylander of Matthews in their place, Marner is more than entitled to get what he thinks he deserves
- AK27


I think Nylander's deal will be a bargain. I know he had an off year last season but throughout history most players that sign late struggle for parts of if not most of the year.

The kid just turned 23 and already has two 61 point seasons under his belt and was an elite talent in his draft year.

I wanted the Canucks to take his at 6 if he was available.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 10:58 PM ET
Marner pic with Max Domi on Habs blog😀

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:09 PM ET
IF you look closer it's right beside Mathews and Tavares.
- golfingsince


Is that above or below any Canucks player? ever.




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