Seriously. It is really hard to follow the logic. The top 4 starting next year are Reilly, Ceci, Muzzin and Barrie. How do the Leafs contend with that back end, especially if you get to the playoffs? They will be maxed out on the CAP.

Cecci, Muzzin and Barrie are all UFAs next summer. I don't understand the long term plan,
- spatso

How is the ottawa defence looking next summer ?

I wonder how long until someone posts this is the Spazzo dippoop thread.
- GreatGigInTheSky

i'll see that bet, and raise it.

We are moving into stage II of a typical blue koolaid summer. Fans are beginning to notice the stories being floated that Marner might not be fit enough or ready for NHL prime time. Leafs are a last place team, they are sort of like a very young Edmonton crew of last year without McDavid.

But Leaf fans are great hockey fans and now that the silly summer chatter is winding down, they are getting around to a more balanced level of hockey discussion. We will see the Stage III early season euphoria when they win a few games at the beginning of the season and the Toronto based media predicts good things for them. But the Stage III crash into despair will come like clockwork in early December. Stage IV acceptance of reality will include some anger and frustration but it is not long lasting. And, come early March, Stage I starts again with a high degree of hopefulness as speculation of the guaranteed Tavares signing gets ramped up and fans discuss the great potential of the impending lottery and draft.

How is the ottawa defence looking next summer ?
- Geez48

Chabot-Chabot
Chabot-Chabot
Chabot-Chabot

i think your missing the underlying math. There is nothing on the horizon that is going to result in any kind of material increase of the CAP next year.

It is hard to construct a contending team that will finish strong in the regular season and still have the depth to go deep into the playoffs. The numbers don't lie. Close to 60% of your budget is spent if three players (Marner, Tavares and Matthews) contracts averaging $11.5m each and you retain Nylander at $7m. as well as Reilly and Anderson at $5m.

How do you go into the playoffs without the money to pay a #2 Man? This is not a team that would have the depth to contend in the playoffs and, likely, does not have the depth to be able to finish strong in the second half of the season.
- spatso

Summer talk...

Mitch has probably been abused by his overbearing dad his entire life.

Dad wants a cottage on Lake Joe, so, sorry Mitch, we do this my way. Eff you and your wishes.
- Woderwick

Close. They purchased our cottage on Lake Muskoka last summer. Paul did all the negotiating. Mitch was just there. Mom is really nice, dispite what some of you yahoos think.

Seriously. It is really hard to follow the logic. The top 4 starting next year are Reilly, Ceci, Muzzin and Barrie. How do the Leafs contend with that back end, especially if you get to the playoffs? They will be maxed out on the CAP.

Cecci, Muzzin and Barrie are all UFAs next summer. I don't understand the long term plan,
- spatso

What the hell are you talking about? That's a better D than most East teams. LOL And Dermott will be ready within 6 weeks to replace Ceci.

That's better than a lot of playoff teams last year, including the 100 point 2018-19 Leafs.

Leafs will have the $ to keep who they want. They are not exactly capped out next season.

Best to abandoned the "Leafs are in cap hell and can't keep anyone" theme because it's not working.

Seriously. It is really hard to follow the logic. The top 4 starting next year are Reilly, Ceci, Muzzin and Barrie. How do the Leafs contend with that back end, especially if you get to the playoffs? They will be maxed out on the CAP.

Cecci, Muzzin and Barrie are all UFAs next summer. I don't understand the long term plan,
- spatso

Weren't you asked by the management of this site to not post in this thread because your superior intelligence and hockey knowledge incites the Leaf fans into an uncontrollable rage?

What the hell are you talking about? That's a better D than most East teams. LOL And Dermott will be ready within 6 weeks to replace Ceci.

That's better than a lot of playoff teams last year, including the 100 point 2018-19 Leafs.

Leafs will have the $ to keep who they want. They are not exactly capped out next season.

Best to abandoned the "Leafs are in cap hell and can't keep anyone" theme because it's not working.
- RogerRoeper

I actually think that’s a pretty solid top 4, especially if when Dermott comes back he can move in there on the right side with Rielly or something. Muzzin Barrie has potential to be an awesome pairing.

It must be nice to be the Sens and not have to worry about the cap, contending, or who to select with a high pick in the last draft. No contracts with elite players to worry about either. They've got Zaitsev locked up.

I actually think that’s a pretty solid top 4, especially if when Dermott comes back he can move in there on the right side with Rielly or something. Muzzin Barrie has potential to be an awesome pairing.
- ClarksonDavid

I agree, and there is no reason to believe that at least one of the d-men in the minor league system will not step up and contribute.

It must be nice to be the Sens and not have to worry about the cap, contending, or who to select with a high pick in the last draft. No contracts with elite players to worry about either. They've got Zaitsev locked up.
- Zezel

And don't forget Bobby Ryan. It's only right that Spatso is trolling and chirping this blog. Sens will be tied for first place until October 4th

And don't forget Bobby Ryan. It's only right that Spatso is trolling and chirping this blog. Sens will be tied for first place until October 4th
- winsix

I actually think that’s a pretty solid top 4, especially if when Dermott comes back he can move in there on the right side with Rielly or something. Muzzin Barrie has potential to be an awesome pairing.
- ClarksonDavid

Exactly. Look at the D in the East. A couple of really good ones with a bunch that look really bad. That's a very solid top 4.

The salary cap was instituted in 2005. That is 14 years ago. Still to this point, people in hockey don't understand LTIR and how it works.

The blogger writes
The player has to be placed on long-term injured reserve (LTIR) to have his salary not count against the cap, which is likely what will happen to Nathan Horton, Travis Dermott and Zach Hyman at the start of the season.

That is simply not true. A player placed on LTIR counts on the cap the same as any other player. What LTIR is, is an exemption to spend over the upper limit IF replacing that player puts a team over the Upper Limit.

And don't forget Bobby Ryan. It's only right that Spatso is trolling and chirping this blog. Sens will be tied for first place until October 4th
- winsix

Sens finished last season 10 points behind the Red Wings. Nuff said.

Close. They purchased our cottage on Lake Muskoka last summer. Paul did all the negotiating. Mitch was just there. Mom is really nice, dispite what some of you yahoos think.
- rSole

His mom does look like a very sweet lady...and she can Floss.

I agree...some guys in here have to lighten up.

Found Jake. Think he signed as the USWNT soccer goalkeeper?





Edit: hang on, tinypic sucks tinydic

It must be nice to be the Sens and not have to worry about the cap, contending, or who to select with a high pick in the last draft. No contracts with elite players to worry about either. They've got Zaitsev locked up.
- Zezel

i think you’re missing the underlying math. What is really on the horizon is a material increase of the actual dollars spent for budget teams.

The nhlpa is trying to push escrow down from +10%. if the nhlpa can get escrow down to 5%, it will be hard to for spatsnyk to construct a team in ottawa that would finish strong if they played in the ahl and still have the depth to go deep into the world championships. The numbers don't lie.

How will the sens survive, without the money savings from escrow? This is not a team that would have the financial depth to handle even a slight increase in costs.

Seriously. It is really hard to follow the logic. If escrow goes from 10% to 5%, a bottom feeding floor team like the sens will go from an actual payroll of 90% of $58.8M ($52.9M spent) last year to 95% of 60.2M ($57.1M spent) this year. They will be beyond maxed out of cash.

I don't understand the short term plan. spatsnyk’s tactics of chasing away fans will not get him the extra $4.3M in actual cash to make payroll this year.

i think you’re missing the underlying math. What is really on the horizon is a material increase of the actual dollars spent for budget teams.

The nhlpa is trying to push escrow down from +10%. if a the nhlpa can get a escrow down to 5%, it will be hard to for spatsnyk to construct a team in ottawa that would finish strong if they played in the ahl and still have the depth to go deep into the world championships. The numbers don't lie.

How will the sens survive, without the money savings from escrow? This is not a team that would have the financial depth to handle even a slight increase in costs.

Seriously. It is really hard to follow the logic. If escrow goes from 10% to 5%, a bottom feeding floor team like the sens will go from an actual payroll of 90% of $58.8M ($52.9M spent) last year to 95% of 60.2M ($57.1M spent) this year. They will be beyond maxed out of cash.

I don't understand the short term plan. spatsnyk’s tactics of chasing away fans will not get him the extra $4.3M in actual cash to make payroll this year.
- Tumbleweed

I wonder how long until someone posts this is the Spazzo dippoop thread.
- GreatGigInTheSky

'Bout an hour and a half.

4 years 9.75 million or 6 years 10.5 million. That’s personally how I see it. I don’t think the team will do 5 because of Matthews. Marner might look to Meier’s deal and have a large salary on that final year of a 4 year deal so that’s he at least guaranteed a high qualifying offer on that 5th year that ultimately could walk him to UFA. I think the leafs would like to avoid that scenario, but it could be an inventive for Marner to sign.
- RickJames77

That was my guess that AA put into that site to make the spreads.

I still think that's an over-payment, though.

i'll see that bet, and raise it.

We are moving into stage II of a typical blue koolaid summer. Fans are beginning to notice the stories being floated that Marner might not be fit enough or ready for NHL prime time. Leafs are a last place team, they are sort of like a very young Edmonton crew of last year without McDavid.

But Leaf fans are great hockey fans and now that the silly summer chatter is winding down, they are getting around to a more balanced level of hockey discussion. We will see the Stage III early season euphoria when they win a few games at the beginning of the season and the Toronto based media predicts good things for them. But the Stage III crash into despair will come like clockwork in early December. Stage IV acceptance of reality will include some anger and frustration but it is not long lasting. And, come early March, Stage I starts again with a high degree of hopefulness as speculation of the guaranteed Tavares signing gets ramped up and fans discuss the great potential of the impending lottery and draft.
- Tumbleweed

Found Jake. Think he signed as the USWNT soccer goalkeeper?





Edit: hang on, tinypic sucks tinydic
- Barb34

I got the wrong one, it's this one....

new blog everyone