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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yeah! Screw dem Liberals. Our Lard and Saviour Ford promised us regular folks a buck-a-beer! He knows what’s important.
- Steven_Seagull


Ford's a dip. That doesn't take away the insanity of the spending.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 8 @ 4:47 PM ET
Ceci's $4.5 million will be free to spend next year.
- Atomic Wedgie


It will but you need to cover 5.3 mill increase on the 2.7 mill contract. You also have to consider what Marner signs for and that Ceci nd Muzzin do need to be re-signed or replaced. On top of any other signings.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
Dust settled yet???

UFC 6969
Santo vs AA


Not to take sides at all, but AA isn't wrong in what he's saying. None of really know sh1t for sure. Could he be holding out because of his dad and agent and Dreger is a twat, sure, sure and definitely sure. Could he be trying to get more in bonuses in case of a strike, sure. Could he be trying to get less years to capitalize on career earnings by becoming a UFA sooner, (frank) ya, who wouldn't.

But do any of you really think Dubas is signing all the other players without having an idea of how things are looking on the MM deal??? Doubt it.

Hope it gets done. I like MM and want him on the Leafs.

- Barb34

Call Dana White.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 4:55 PM ET
Ford's a dip. That doesn't take away the insanity of the spending.
- aminnes


Fiscal conservatives face the same dilemma that climate scientists do....a world full of people who are completely incapable of thinking beyond today.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 8 @ 4:59 PM ET
It will but you need to cover 5.3 mill increase on the 2.7 mill contract. You also have to consider what Marner signs for and that Ceci nd Muzzin do need to be re-signed or replaced. On top of any other signings.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Phase 1: Replace Muzzin and Ceci with Sandin and Liljegren.

Phase 2: ???

Phase 3: Dynasty.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 8 @ 4:59 PM ET
“Hold my beer.”

- Garf

- Steven_Seagull


Gonna have to agree with the Gull here.

My location is a legit Garf quote from one of the very rare times that he actually responded in his own blog.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 8 @ 5:04 PM ET
Dust settled yet???

UFC 6969
Santo vs AA


Not to take sides at all, but AA isn't wrong in what he's saying. None of really know sh1t for sure. Could he be holding out because of his dad and agent and Dreger is a twat, sure, sure and definitely sure. Could he be trying to get more in bonuses in case of a strike, sure. Could he be trying to get less years to capitalize on career earnings by becoming a UFA sooner, (frank) ya, who wouldn't.

But do any of you really think Dubas is signing all the other players without having an idea of how things are looking on the MM deal??? Doubt it.

Hope it gets done. I like MM and want him on the Leafs.

- Barb34

He already has them all signed
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 5:09 PM ET
Fiscal conservatives face the same dilemma that climate scientists do....a world full of people who are completely incapable of thinking beyond today.
- The Shrike


I would say it's the exact opposite. The Ontario Liberals spent today to indebt people that aren't even born yet, and that concerns people. Unless thats the 'thinking beyond today' your referencing.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 8 @ 5:11 PM ET
Kevin Kurz
‏Verified account @KKurzNHL

Kevin Labanc’s one-year extension is for $1 million even. A bit shocking honestly.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
Kevin Kurz
‏Verified account @KKurzNHL

Kevin Labanc’s one-year extension is for $1 million even. A bit shocking honestly.

- GreatGigInTheSky

There's something really fishy about a 50 point rfa accepting that.... what's the catch....
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 8 @ 5:35 PM ET
I would say it's the exact opposite. The Ontario Liberals spent today to indebt people that aren't even born yet, and that concerns people. Unless thats the 'thinking beyond today' your referencing.
- aminnes



The problem isn’t the spending it’s that people don’t want to pay the taxes needed to pay for that spending. There’s waste in government like in any big organization (probably more) but politicians promise the programs and the miracle of great efficiency letting people think they can get more and improved services without the real cost. They then get scared to raise taxes to pay the real cost and debt goes up.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 8 @ 5:39 PM ET
The problem isn’t the spending it’s that people don’t want to pay the taxes needed to pay for that spending. There’s waste in government like in any big organization (probably more) but politicians promise the programs and the miracle of great efficiency letting people think they can get more and improved services without the real cost. They then get scared to raise taxes to pay the real cost and debt goes up.
- Canada Cup

the majority of individuals wouldn't even have to consider accepting tax increases if we actually taxed corporations and the mega rich correctly in the developed world. we don't. not even close.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 8 @ 5:44 PM ET
the majority of individuals wouldn't even have to consider accepting tax increases if we actually taxed corporations and the mega rich correctly in the developed world. we don't. not even close.
- daeth



Well that’s completely true but that’s the one thing that seems to scare politicians even more
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 5:51 PM ET
The problem isn’t the spending it’s that people don’t want to pay the taxes needed to pay for that spending. There’s waste in government like in any big organization (probably more) but politicians promise the programs and the miracle of great efficiency letting people think they can get more and improved services without the real cost. They then get scared to raise taxes to pay the real cost and debt goes up.
- Canada Cup


It's not that people don't want to pay more taxes because they simply want to keep all of their money, most people are stretched to the limits in Canada and raising taxes would burry them and create even more problems. Right now over 40% of the country is $200 or less from insolvency.

With all the spending there should be a return. But Ontario's GDP growth rate from 2007-2016 was the lowest in Canada, all while spending the most on their credit card. Median household income increased only 3.8% during that time, way less than inflation. Meanwhile the rest of the country went up 15%. So what has all there spending done? And taxing people more would make those numbers even worse.

Countries that have higher tax rates - people always bring up the Nordic countries - were totally culturally and economically homogenous when they took those steps. Denmark increased taxes for services, but it was a country of all middle class income earners with a small population. Couldn't do that in Canada with the range of income and need, as well as the distance between centres.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 5:56 PM ET
There's something really fishy about a 50 point rfa accepting that.... what's the catch....
- mykokes


His agent is on crack. Someone should have offersheeted him more than any other player. (frank) Mitch and his 12 million per.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 5:56 PM ET
the majority of individuals wouldn't even have to consider accepting tax increases if we actually taxed corporations and the mega rich correctly in the developed world. we don't. not even close.
- daeth


That is the argument going on in the US right now to give people free college. Even if they taxed the richest 1% 100%, it would cover student loans for about 3 years, then it wouldn't be enough and the debt spiral would continue.

If we try to tax the mega rich corporations they will simply leave for a better jurisdiction. Why do you think Paul Martin registered Canadian Steam Ship Lines in Barbados? That is why the US economy has seen huge growth by lowering their corporate tax rate because companies came back. This is the challenge of globalism, big corporations don't need governments, period. They can move their operations wherever the benefits are greatest. So taxing Canadians more won't solve the problem either.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 8 @ 6:00 PM ET
That is the argument going on in the US right now to give people free college. Even if they taxed the richest 1% 100%, it would cover student loans for about 3 years, then it wouldn't be enough and the debt spiral would continue.

If we try to tax the mega rich corporations they will simply leave for a better jurisdiction. Why do you think Paul Martin registered Canadian Steam Ship Lines in Barbados? That is why the US economy has seen huge growth by lowering their corporate tax rate because companies came back. This is the challenge of globalism, big corporations don't need governments, period. They can move their operations wherever the benefits are greatest. So taxing Canadians more won't solve the problem either.

- aminnes

that's why i said the developed world and not just canada. it's a pipe dream but it's a legitimate fix. every other option else just (frank)s over regular joes, either through taxation or cuts to services that the less fortunate desperately need.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 8 @ 6:01 PM ET
It will but you need to cover 5.3 mill increase on the 2.7 mill contract. You also have to consider what Marner signs for and that Ceci nd Muzzin do need to be re-signed or replaced. On top of any other signings.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Only Leaf not signed is Marner, after that They have 3.8, plus Hortons 5.3, a forward and a defenseman have to be sent down. Another 1.4 to 1.9 depending on who gets sent down.
And there's Hymans and Dermottts relief as well.
So thats at least 10.5,
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 6:02 PM ET
that's why i said the developed world and not just canada. it's a pipe dream but it's a legitimate fix. every other option else just (frank)s over regular joes, either through taxation or cuts to services that the less fortunate desperately need.
- daeth


Sure. But the spending must be reduced. If a government more than doubles the debt of their jurisdiction in less than 15 years the quality of services should be through the roof. But they're not.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 6:05 PM ET
Big surprise, Barrie wants 8 AAV as a UFA next year.

So, as predicted, he's either going to be overpaid or a 1 year rental.

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 6:08 PM ET
Big surprise, Barrie wants 8 AAV as a UFA next year.

So, as predicted, he's either going to be overpaid or a 1 year rental.


- JohnFergusonJr


Hopefully he has a crappy year, 25-30 points?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 6:08 PM ET
Big surprise, Barrie wants 8 AAV as a UFA next year.

So, as predicted, he's either going to be overpaid or a 1 year rental.


- JohnFergusonJr

Can we just enjoy this season. Every team faces these issues.

I'm tired of hearing about cap hits and Leafs can't afford anyone, blah,blah,blah. They always keep who they truly want.

I'd rather have Barrie at 8 than Muzzin at 6. Truth is, Barrie is worth 8 if he has another great year.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 6:09 PM ET
Hopefully he has a crappy year, 25-30 points?
- aminnes


Unless he gets hurt, no chance.

Why do you think he was so happy to come to the Leafs?

As a pending UFA, he's going to have a bunch of weapons to pass to, he's going to play on the top PP unit as the RHD with his shot and with Andersen behind him, all his defensive mistakes won't look as bad until the playoffs.

Colorado had some weapons for him to pass to but on the Leafs, he's looking at 70+ points. And then he walks and cashes in.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 6:10 PM ET
Unless he gets hurt, no chance.

Why do you think he was so happy to come to the Leafs?

As a pending UFA, he's going to have a bunch of weapons to pass to, he's going to play on the top PP unit as the RHD with his shot and with Andersen behind him, all his defensive mistakes won't look as bad until the playoffs.

Colorado had some weapons for him to pass to but on the Leafs, he's looking at 70+ points. And then he walks and cashes in.

- JohnFergusonJr


Oh, no, heaven forbid he gets 70+ points!
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 8 @ 6:11 PM ET
Unless he gets hurt, no chance.

Why do you think he was so happy to come to the Leafs?

As a pending UFA, he's going to have a bunch of weapons to pass to, he's going to play on the top PP unit as the RHD with his shot and with Andersen behind him, all his defensive mistakes won't look as bad until the playoffs.

Colorado had some weapons for him to pass to but on the Leafs, he's looking at 70+ points. And then he walks and cashes in.

- JohnFergusonJr


I know. I was being facetious.
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