Steven_Seagull
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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Because he wants it - HealthyScratch6
Then I’ll take the 4 1sts. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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And I suppose it’s a complete stroke of luck that Tavares had a career year his first year in Toronto..
Next time a real team Canada is assembled, Mitch will be riding shotty with McDavid.
That’s pretty much all you need to know. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Career year by 2 points? |
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If Tavares is the reason Mitch put up the points he did, then why did Mitch put up MORE points?
I’ll wait for your logical response to this. Im sure it’ll change my mind.
Players get paid based on projection, and so far it looks like Mitch is already as good as Tavares, so he should be at least 11mil, no? - Arctic_AARDVARK
RFA vs UFA. Completely different situation. |
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Then I’ll take the 4 1sts. - Steven_Seagull
I actually hope he gets offer sheeted I'm sick of these greedy (frank)s. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Good player but doesn't deserve Matthews contract. Matthews doesn't deserve Matthews contract. - HealthyScratch6
I don’t disagree.
Players are being paid based on projection. Matthews is probably the best 5on5 goal scorer in the game, so it’s pretty close to what he deserves. Mitch should sign 11x5..
That’s been my guess since the end of the season. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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RFA vs UFA. Completely different situation. - HealthyScratch6
It’s not anymore.
Players are getting paid immediately after the elc’s now.
They used to get paid based on their body of work, now it’s based on what they project to be. Which makes more sense. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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I don’t disagree.
Players are being paid based on projection. Matthews is probably the best 5on5 goal scorer in the game, so it’s pretty close to what he deserves. Mitch should sign 11x5..
That’s been my guess since the end of the season. - Arctic_AARDVARK
He needs to stay healthy. I would like to see what he's capable of after a full 82. Projected he should be a top point getter. |
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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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So?
Mitch kills penalties, that’s seems like a big responsibility.. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Killing penalties does not move the contract needle at all. Marincin can kill penalties; it's not a skill teams pay for. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Career year by 2 points? - mykokes
Still a career year..
He’ll probably top it next season, and Mitch will probably break the 100pt barrier alongside him. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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It’s not anymore.
Players are getting paid immediately after the elc’s now.
They used to get paid based on their body of work, now it’s based on what they project to be. Which makes more sense. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Thanks Chia Pet! |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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Killing penalties does not move the contract needle at all. Marincin can kill penalties; it's not a skill teams pay for. - gravyface
My point was that Mitch isn’t some one dimensional player, he has a lot of attributes. If he put up 94pts, but slacked on his defensive play, then sure pay him a little less. But he’s really good at both ends (remember those blocked shots in the playoffs) so he’s a complete player |
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Not his fault Kucherov is a dumbass. - Arctic_AARDVARK
The Kucherov deal would work out to the same or more than what Mitch is asking for because of the tax implications so......? Marner would lose close to 40-50% of his deal by signing with the Leafs. One of the many reasons why it’s hard for Canadian teams to retain talent. |
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Larry_Fine
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Edmonton , AB Joined: 02.09.2017
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His gooney goo hoo is off the charts. - Aetherial
Lol |
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It’s not anymore.
Players are getting paid immediately after the elc’s now.
They used to get paid based on their body of work, now it’s based on what they project to be. Which makes more sense. - Arctic_AARDVARK
It doesn't make sense in a cap world. In order for teams to be able to build a team and for everyone to be able to get paid it should be that you have to earn that big contract if not it's just gonna be over priced 22 year olds, guys on entry level and vets making league minimum. Basically the NBA.
I understand that's the way it's going and that's Edmonton's fault for starting it and partially Dubas fault for the Matthews contract. |
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Gambi99
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.09.2007
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I have a solution...just trade Marner and Horton to the Devils for Hall (6mil) and Vatanen (4.8mil) (I would even throw in a pick) ....Hall gets to play for a winner and would re-sign next year and we get a young winger to go with either Nico or Hughes. Win win |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Everybody calm down, AB Joined: 07.24.2011
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It doesn't make sense in a cap world. In order for teams to be able to build a team and for everyone to be able to get paid it should be that you have to earn that big contract if not it's just gonna be over priced 22 year olds, guys on entry level and vets making league minimum. Basically the NBA. - HealthyScratch6
You’ll see more player movement for sure..
Which will be an overall good thjnknfor the league. |
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I have a solution...just trade Marner and Horton to the Devils for Hall (6mil) and Vatanen (4.8mil) (I would even throw in a pick) ....Hall gets to play for a winner and would re-sign next year and we get a young winger to go with either Nico or Hughes. Win win - Gambi99
Hall asks for 13m or walks so leafs end up with with an older more expensive player or no one. I hope that pick is the 1st overall |
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You’ll see more player movement for sure..
Which will be an overall good thjnknfor the league. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Movement isn't good if you can't hold onto your own good players. Leafs should of been set up to compete for the next 10 years but because of Matthews and marners contract they're probably gonna have to blow it up in 3 when Rielly and others need to be paid |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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It doesn't make sense in a cap world. In order for teams to be able to build a team and for everyone to be able to get paid it should be that you have to earn that big contract if not it's just gonna be over priced 22 year olds, guys on entry level and vets making league minimum. Basically the NBA.
I understand that's the way it's going and that's Edmonton's fault for starting it and partially Dubas fault for the Matthews contract. - HealthyScratch6
These big money 2nd contracts aren’t new, though. Ovechkin, Backstrom, Crosby, Malkin, Toews, Kane, Stamkos. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Mitch is my favorite player.
But that's a hard pass on Mitch at 11. - Leafs43
Same here and I 100% agree.
I've got a Marner St. Pats sweater. |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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Hall asks for 13m or walks so leafs end up with with an older more expensive player or no one. I hope that pick is the 1st overall - HealthyScratch6
With Hall, it’s practically guaranteed to be the #1 pick. |
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Gambi99
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.09.2007
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Hall asks for 13m or walks so leafs end up with with an older more expensive player or no one. I hope that pick is the 1st overall - HealthyScratch6
I believe Hall cannot ask more then JT or Matthews is worth, probably the same. He'll be playing on a stacked team, he's never played on a winning team (except the year he had to be a MVP for his team to make it). He might actually take less to stay with Toronto then lets say re-sign with the Devils or another lower team. Just imagine him having JT as his center...it would be unfair. He wins there he's staying for sure. |
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The Kucherov deal would work out to the same or more than what Mitch is asking for because of the tax implications so......? Marner would lose close to 40-50% of his deal by signing with the Leafs. One of the many reasons why it’s hard for Canadian teams to retain talent. - Snots33_77
Tax situation is overblown when you consider that these guys all get paid in USD and live in Canada giving them an extra 30 cents on the dollar in buying power. You wanna buy a 1.3 million dollar condo in Toronto well that will only cost you 1 million USD. |
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Gambi99
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.09.2007
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With Hall, it’s practically guaranteed to be the #1 pick. - Steven_Seagull
I would throw in a 1st (not sure Shero would) but it would have to be some protections like 1-5 at least. |
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I believe Hall cannot ask more then JT or Matthews is worth, probably the same. He'll be playing on a stacked team, he's never played on a winning team (except the year he had to be a MVP for his team to make it). He might actually take less to stay with Toronto then lets say re-sign with the Devils or another lower team. Just imagine him having JT as his center...it wood be unfair. He wins there he's staying for sure. - Gambi99
Everyone takes less to play in Toronto. |
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