geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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Avs fan here! Oh man these Oiler fans are trolls lol itโs funny to read, how was the Oilers offseason ? Lucic ready or play top 6 minutes ? ๐ - Avalanchephenom
No they have Kassian for that... |
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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I guess you don't really know what a UFA is. Hall gets to pick where he plays after next. If he wants to play for Calgary and Calgary wants to pay him what he wants, he just signs in Calgary. If they're talking to him beforehand and agree to a contract, there's no need to make a trade. The most the Flames would give up is like a 4th round pick to make sure they can sign him before the rest of the league has a shot.
The Flames trading Gaudreau for a player they could just sign is the most idiotic decision they could make. Maybe they figure something out at the deadline that's contingent on Hall extending, but there's zero chance that that deal would involve Gaudreau.
This isn't the NBA. Sign and trades aren't a thing. - Hunkulese
Jesus, its Eklund throwing spaghetti against the wall hoping something sticks. Why are we discussing this? |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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Jesus, its Eklund throwing spaghetti against the wall hoping something sticks. Why are we discussing this? - geta02it
It's July and the Blue Jays aren't worth paying attention to.
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OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.31.2015
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No shocker he blocked a move to Calgary. Guy wants to win. |
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OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.31.2015
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Would loved to have seen Kadri on the Flames, I think he would have been a fan favorite withing the first few games. - 13sundin13
Probably would have. He has that dirtbag style that they love there. |
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OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.31.2015
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You hear Ek saying that the Flames have had talks about Gaudreau for Hall?!?!
I would fcking puke!!! - Clyde334
So would Taylor Hall |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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No shocker he blocked a move to Calgary. Guy wants to win. - OilyJay
Just like Poolparty wants to stay in Edmonpuke, despite a lack of bottom 6 forwards.
Kinda like Pronger wanting to hang around too eh? |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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I guess you don't really know what a UFA is. Hall gets to pick where he plays after next. If he wants to play for Calgary and Calgary wants to pay him what he wants, he just signs in Calgary. If they're talking to him beforehand and agree to a contract, there's no need to make a trade. The most the Flames would give up is like a 4th round pick to make sure they can sign him before the rest of the league has a shot.
The Flames trading Gaudreau for a player they could just sign is the most idiotic decision they could make. Maybe they figure something out at the deadline that's contingent on Hall extending, but there's zero chance that that deal would involve Gaudreau.
This isn't the NBA. Sign and trades aren't a thing. - Hunkulese
Jesus dude, you dont think GM's dont talk to players with a teams permission to get an idea if they would sign with them & the kind of money they are wanting? Then you are just being gullable. What do you think happened with Stone last TDL, you can bet Treliving talked to him/his agent about potential extension & salary expectation. Would be no different with Hall. In fact, Hall can be extended now & yes sign & trades can happen, its just very rare, similar to offer sheets. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Jesus, its Eklund throwing spaghetti against the wall hoping something sticks. Why are we discussing this? - geta02it
I thought it was a little early for this kind rumour mongering on Gaudreau. Next summer I could a little more smoke coming from this & personally, in two years from now, if Gaudreau doesnt want to negotiate an extension we should be absolutely trading him while we can get a good return. My gut says he is going back east unless Treliving pays an outrageous amount because I dont think he was happy with what he got the last negotiations. But yeah, way to fcking early on this. But it's a hockey sight whatever, how much discussed on this sight ever comes any where close to being true. |
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viperxt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: windsor, ON Joined: 08.07.2011
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Not sure I agree with that from a leaf fan perspective. Janikowski is better than kerfoot, and Brodie would have been way easier to extend than Barrie.
Barrie and his reported 8 x 8 mil per ask on his next day are one and done in Toronto. And that is a killer to trade a contract like Kadris for. - joel878
You could be right on the prospect of resigning Brodie being easier than Barrie but with both only having 1 year remaining, taking Barrie would be my choice for that 1 year.
Kerfoot is also a better player than Jankowski in almost every aspect of the game. Better faceoff stats 56% to 52%, better 2 way game, better offensive stats 34 goals, 85 pts in 157 games for Kerfoot vs 31 goals and 57pts in 152 games. And the 2 guys are the same age. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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Jesus dude, you dont think GM's dont talk to players with a teams permission to get an idea if they would sign with them & the kind of money they are wanting? Then you are just being gullable. What do you think happened with Stone last TDL, you can bet Treliving talked to him/his agent about potential extension & salary expectation. Would be no different with Hall. In fact, Hall can be extended now & yes sign & trades can happen, its just very rare, similar to offer sheets. - Kevin R
So what you're saying is you don't understand what a UFA is? Stone was still under contract when he was traded last year, and they sure didn't trade anything off their roster to bring in Stone. Maybe the Flames give up a first and Pelletier or something like that for Hall at the deadline, and they'd want a chance to extend Hall before signing off on the deal. That could definitely happen.
Thinking the Devils are going to keep Hall past the deadline and then find a team willing to trade a superstar for a UFA may be the dumbest thing anyone has posted on here. You should go to bed. You're embarrassing yourself.
UFA means anyone can have him without trading for him. That's why the trade deadline is a thing, and why every team that holds on to their UFAs past the deadline lose them for nothing. Did the Leafs trade Matthews to sign Tavares? Who did the Jackets get for Panarin and Bobrovsky? Who did the Flames have to give up to sign Talbot? |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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So what you're saying is you don't understand what a UFA is? Stone was still under contract when he was traded last year, and they sure didn't trade anything off their roster to bring in Stone. Maybe the Flames give up a first and Pelletier or something like that for Hall at the deadline, and they'd want a chance to extend Hall before signing off on the deal. That could definitely happen.
Thinking the Devils are going to keep Hall past the deadline and then find a team willing to trade a superstar for a UFA may be the dumbest thing anyone has posted on here. You should go to bed. You're embarrassing yourself.
UFA means anyone can have him without trading for him. That's why the trade deadline is a thing, and why every team that holds on to their UFAs past the deadline lose them for nothing. Did the Leafs trade Matthews to sign Tavares? Who did the Jackets get for Panarin and Bobrovsky? Who did the Flames have to give up to sign Talbot? - Hunkulese
I realize the light just doesnt turn on for you because you totally dont understand what I am saying but that's cool, we rarely agree about anything. But go fck yourself when you resort to being a nasty dyckhead. I tried to have a discussion with you but that is pointless. I dont worry about embarrassing myself ahole, you are the well known goof on these Flames threads & when you cant make a point you insult. Get lost. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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I realize the light just doesnt turn on for you because you totally dont understand what I am saying but that's cool, we rarely agree about anything. But go fck yourself when you resort to being a nasty dyckhead. I tried to have a discussion with you but that is pointless. I dont worry about embarrassing myself ahole, you are the well known goof on these Flames threads & when you cant make a point you insult. Get lost. - Kevin R
Can you name a single time a superstar or really anyone was traded for a UFA after the season had ended? What possible reason would the Flames have for ever making that trade? Are they trying to pull a fast one on Hall because he won't sign with the Flames? Is Hall such a nice guy that he's going to sign for less so that the Devils can get something back in a trade?
As soon as the trade deadline passes, the Devils will get nothing for Hall except maybe a mid-round pick for his rights.
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oil90
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: ON Joined: 12.05.2010
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Because the Avs weren't on his no trade list so he had no control over that. Basically, he didn't want to leave Toronto and refused the trade until he contractually wasn't able to do so. - 13sundin13
Arguement makes no sense. He still declined the flames over some other team. It wasn't like he wasn't going somewhere. He knew eventually they were going to move him and he was leaving Toronto. He said no to the flames over what's behind door number two...that's makes it even worse that he took the unknown team. |
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oil90
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: ON Joined: 12.05.2010
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Just like Poolparty wants to stay in Edmonpuke, despite a lack of bottom 6 forwards.
Kinda like Pronger wanting to hang around too eh? - Kevin R
Haha pronger ...2006 called and it wants it's story back... |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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It's funny that you actually think Steve Simmons can offer any insight to anything.
- Fakepartofme
He can offer insight into back hair. |
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Helios
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.11.2016
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Arguement makes no sense. He still declined the flames over some other team. It wasn't like he wasn't going somewhere. He knew eventually they were going to move him and he was leaving Toronto. He said no to the flames over what's behind door number two...that's makes it even worse that he took the unknown team. - oil90
There's no guarantee the Leafs would have found a trade partner with someone else. He said no to the trade with Calgary because he wanted to stay a Leaf, not because he was against playing in Calgary. Pretty much every report says that. He used what power he could to stay.
The trolling isn't even good anymore, it just makes you look dumb. |
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So glad Kadri nixed that deal, getting Barrie and Kerfoot is a way better return than Brodie and Jankowski. - viperxt
No chance that Barrie is there for more than a year though |
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Sure sure it was a khl team I think he rejected. Total made up cover story to soften the rejection. - oil90
Every player in the league with a no trade list has the Oilers on it look at your (frank)ing forward depth. |
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No chance that Barrie is there for more than a year though - flashfire
Leafs could always sign Brodie as a ufa if they wanted to and if he was willing. |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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Jank is solid big body guy to help against heavy teams like broons, kerfoot not so much...
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Jank is solid big body guy to help against heavy teams like broons, kerfoot not so much... - kaptaan
Does he help against heavy teams ? I know he's big but he looked like he didn't want to be there against the Avs. He's big, and I'm sure a super nice guy but how willing is he is to engage ? I thought Derek Ryan was more effective when the intensity ramped up. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Definitely not heart broken Kadri didn't want to come here. Good player but is brain dead. Have to think Brodie is now as good as gone though and possibly Janko. Not sure how these things get leaked but it has to piss off BT. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Jank is solid big body guy to help against heavy teams like broons, kerfoot not so much... - kaptaan
Im shocked Weisbrod hasnt been pushing Benning to approach Flames to acquiring him. It was actually him that "discovered" Janko & convinced Feaster to draft him. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Can you name a single time a superstar or really anyone was traded for a UFA after the season had ended? What possible reason would the Flames have for ever making that trade? Are they trying to pull a fast one on Hall because he won't sign with the Flames? Is Hall such a nice guy that he's going to sign for less so that the Devils can get something back in a trade?
As soon as the trade deadline passes, the Devils will get nothing for Hall except maybe a mid-round pick for his rights. - Hunkulese
That's where we disconnect, I wouldnt do a Hall for Gaudreau 1 for 1 this summer nor next February, even if we had an extension all negotiated. Hall is going to cost Tavares type of money & Gaudreau is going to be almost half. Jersey would have to add big time. But I would rather get a huge return for our superstar than wait knowing he is wanting to go back East to play. I think it's too soon for trading Gaudreau but who knows, maybe he's approached Treliving has said he would like to consider a move back East for family reasons. Would never trade Gaudreau for Hall straight up & not having an extension in hand. |
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