Without looking , I'd guess there aren't too many non star defenseman with 125 points over the past 3 seasons
- Boss34

And certainly not with -75 for sure

I think we see 55 if he's on the roster.

He is one if the best pp defenseman in the league.

Lousley should have used 53 more on the pp and ot
- Boss34

Not true Risto ranked 17th in pp points last year, that's not close to best in the league.
1 Keith Yandle
2 John Carlson
3 Torey Krug
4 Brent Burns
5 Tyson Barrie
6 Victor Hedman
7 Drew Doughty
8 Morgan Rielly
9 Mark Giordano
10 Rasmus Dahlin
11 John Klingberg
12 Erik Karlsson
13 Oliver Ekman-Larsson
14 Kristopher Letang
15 Jacob Trouba
16 Erik Gustafsson
17 Rasmus Ristolainen

Pro Ristos here, Neutral Ristos in that corner, Anti Ristos in the other corner.
- TheSabresTaco

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.

By phail lousley

Wow you got me there.

You just keep ignoring the 125 points over the past 3 years on terrible teams
- Boss34

The one thing he actually did that was right, go figure

The one thing he actually did that was right, go figure
- Sabres1523

Credit where due. He's a good offensive defender. 125 pts in 3 seasons puts him with pretty elite company.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he doesn't suck and isn't an All star either...

Erod's arb hearing is in 2 wks. So I guess we should see his contract extension soon enough.

Credit where due. He's a good offensive defender. 125 pts in 3 seasons puts him with pretty elite company.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he doesn't suck and isn't an All star either...
- RhinoFan

This is what analytics has done, and I guess internet culture too. Everyone is either great or they're a bum

Credit where due. He's a good offensive defender. 125 pts in 3 seasons puts him with pretty elite company.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he doesn't suck and isn't an All star either...
- RhinoFan

I don't think he sucks by any stretch, I just find it funny that hes either terrible or the best dman we have ever seen, sure he produces points say on the pp, but he cant defend very well and is not good at driving offense 5 on 5.
Some act as if he has no deficiencies whatsoever.

Kinda funny to see Ottawa take 4 castoffs from Toronto.

Not true Risto ranked 17th in pp points last year, that's not close to best in the league.
1 Keith Yandle
2 John Carlson
3 Torey Krug
4 Brent Burns
5 Tyson Barrie
6 Victor Hedman
7 Drew Doughty
8 Morgan Rielly
9 Mark Giordano
10 Rasmus Dahlin
11 John Klingberg
12 Erik Karlsson
13 Oliver Ekman-Larsson
14 Kristopher Letang
15 Jacob Trouba
16 Erik Gustafsson
17 Rasmus Ristolainen
- Sabres1523

Risto is definitely good on the PP. the dude is very good at the point or the top of the funnel. I like him at the top and Eichel and dahlin on the half walls

Your logic is flawed. We sign a 20 goal scorer, everyone says "sweet, a 20 goal scorer" not, "well based on the team he played with, it's impossible to predict his new stats".

A proven 20 goal scorer will score 20 goals on any team. A bad defensemen isn't bad because the whole organization conspired against him to stick him in bad situations or make him play sidney crosby every weekend. For example, risto took 47% of his draws in the offensive zone, but people here will tell you he has to play defense, in his own end, against the top line of every team, every single shift. But it is just an excuse made up to defend him, it isn't true.

Come on guys, we went through this with Myers, who was way better than Risto when it comes to statistics, and he was what? A 4th or 5th defensemen on another team? He didn't get better when put in a better team with a better situation, he just got relied on less and trusted less. Risto will go become some other team's 4th or 5th defenseman, and make 5 million a year. It isn't value. Hence, he is still here. :p
- matty12345

Goals are not an advanced stat.

Tomorrow's Lottery Numbers for the PP1 are
9
23
26
37
And
62
- IonSabres

No Skinner???

Kinda funny to see Ottawa take 4 castoffs from Toronto.
- TheSabresTaco

They could take Okposo if they want.

Dobber for line combo's. Takes a little work, but if you know who the full time RW's are, it's very clear.

He's never been productive other than as Crosby's LW. Sucks, but it's true.
- Lunaion

I thought Kunitz played on the left side with Crosby for at least 1 of the Cups

Maybe I’m just remembering wrong??

They could take Okposo if they want.
- SABRES 89

Moulson is a FA and would cost less

Moulson is a FA and would cost less
- jcragcrumple

They have to get to the floor, they over 22 mill left.

I don't think he sucks by any stretch, I just find it funny that hes either terrible or the best dman we have ever seen, sure he produces points say on the pp, but he cant defend very well and is not good at driving offense 5 on 5.
Some act as if he has no deficiencies whatsoever.
- Sabres1523

He has major deficiencies, but probably less than my take on him.
I am just sick and tired of watching the whole team run around in their own zone for 45 seconds trying to get the puck out. For him, as soon as he gets it, he is quick to fire it up along the boards where the opponents LW and LD are there to retrieve it and start the cycle again...then he fires ut off the glass into the OZ, the line shifts occur and boom, they are hemmed in again.

Hopefully this is where Johansson, Vesey, Montour and Miller can make a difference on the roster with better zone exits and transitions this season. Maybe Freddie can get lunk-head to lift his head to see where he should pass it.

Remi Elie has an arbitrating hearing set for August 1.
Elie registered an assist in 16 games in 2018-19. He also had eight goals and 14 points in 25 AHL contests.


This is just comical.

Pro Ristos here, Neutral Ristos in that corner, Anti Ristos in the other corner.
- TheSabresTaco

We can all meet at Tompkins square park in an hour

Pavel Buchnevich has an arbitration hearing set for July 29th.
Buchnevich scored 21 goals and 38 points in 64 contests last season. He's looking for a new contract after completing his entry-level deal.


This is not comical.

This is what analytics has done, and I guess internet culture too. Everyone is either great or they're a bum
- jcragcrumple

Risto simply hasn't improved, so I understand where some are coming from. He's been a big let down for many (me included).

But agreed, we're losing access to middle ground.

Remi Elie has an arbitrating hearing set for August 1.
Elie registered an assist in 16 games in 2018-19. He also had eight goals and 14 points in 25 AHL contests.


This is just comical.
- SABRES 89

Lol, what's the CBA say about how much less than the QO the arbitration award can be?

I don't think he sucks by any stretch, I just find it funny that hes either terrible or the best dman we have ever seen, sure he produces points say on the pp, but he cant defend very well and is not good at driving offense 5 on 5.
Some act as if he has no deficiencies whatsoever.
- Sabres1523

I understand. Just think his point production gets dismissed too quickly is all.

Pavel Buchnevich has an arbitration hearing set for July 29th.
Buchnevich scored 21 goals and 38 points in 64 contests last season. He's looking for a new contract after completing his entry-level deal.


This is not comical.
- SABRES 89

We need a center before another winger.

People hating on bassard last night .... I didn’t get why? Bass isn’t a godly center. I get that. But would you rather have

Eichel
Bass
Mitts
Sobotka / Erod.

Or

Eichel
Mitts
Erod
Sobotka

Bass at 1 year is fine

From Las Word on Hockey,
It is believed Gusev is asking for around $4 million per season. At this point, that is much too rich for Vegas. However, the return is underwhelming according to a report by Jesse Granger of The Athletic (subscription required), who states that according to league sources preliminary talks are a second-round pick and a later round pick or second-tier prospect.

Offer Gusev $3.25 x 2, and VGK A Nylander and 2021 - 3rd