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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 8 @ 5:12 PM ET
am thinking two more seasons of him...but then again, botts has said that he's not interested in buying out players
- Michael Pachla


I want to be very clear that I am not hoping for him to get another concussion. I want to be very clear about that. But he has had 3 in the past 2 years. If he gets one more, he could very well be done
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 8 @ 5:21 PM ET
Eat poop
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
hopefully you're right about the better talent and coaching
- Michael Pachla


I'm always optimistic.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 8 @ 5:23 PM ET
Ok, Boss. Okposo is better than E-rod. You win
- jcragcrumple



Statistically they were even in points last season.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 5:27 PM ET
Not gonna move on, they could have added to the 31 st to move him but Botterill made no effort to do so, none at all I was told. no matter buy out or not, he won't do that, Botterill doesn't like dead money.
- SABRES 89


Maybe Botts didn't try because his years as a CapMixologist told him it is a wasted effort to try.
Let's say that Marleau's cost of 1 1st per every year of a $6m contract set the price...and then let's discount that by an aggressive 25% (probably should up lift by 25% in reality)...
Do you want to part with 3 1sts to unload it?
I sure as hell wouldn't. I'll wait it out...maybe Seattle, maybe Comp Buyouts reappear, maybe...
HE isn't hurting them this season, nor the season after that...why waste time, energy and assets now when there is no need.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 5:29 PM ET
Statistically they were even in points last season.
- Boss34

One is getting better, one is getting worse....
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 5:32 PM ET
I want to be very clear that I am not hoping for him to get another concussion. I want to be very clear about that. But he has had 3 in the past 2 years. If he gets one more, he could very well be done
- jcragcrumple


What's the recapture penalty if he retires after next season?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 8 @ 5:35 PM ET
Statistically they were even in points last season.
- Boss34


I could post zone exits, charts, penalties drawn vs penalties taken, 5-on-5 stats, PK stuff, the fact that #71 plays all 3 positions, +/- if you want it, etc., etc.

But yes, they had the same amount of points
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 8 @ 5:36 PM ET
What's the recapture penalty if he retires after next season?
- IonSabres


0 I believe
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 5:36 PM ET
What's the recapture penalty if he retires after next season?
- IonSabres

I don't think he would voluntarily...if an injury forces him to, they'll simply place him on LTIR
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 5:37 PM ET
Statistically they were even in points last season.
- Boss34

one is an undrafted kid that made 750 K

the other was a 42 million dollar free agent acquisition

any case made for okposo should not include e-rod, unless you are trying to find a worse fighter, and even then my money is on e-rod
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 5:39 PM ET
I don't think he would voluntarily...if an injury forces him to, they'll simply place him on LTIR
- Michael Pachla

send him on the robert moses

hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jul 8 @ 5:41 PM ET
the fact a player making 750K is producing as much as a 6 mil okposo is really not a way to make your case


just sayin

- homiedclown


That's whats up.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 8 @ 5:44 PM ET
the fact a player making 750K is producing as much as a 6 mil okposo is really not a way to make your case


just sayin

- homiedclown

600k...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 5:45 PM ET
600k...
- Mentalorgasm5

oh my

thought the min was 750


I apologize

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 8 @ 5:45 PM ET
What's the recapture penalty if he retires after next season?
- IonSabres


There's 4m frontloaded. Spread over 3 remaining years = 1.33m. Fairly sure it's that simple.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 8 @ 5:46 PM ET
oh my

thought the min was 750


I apologize

- homiedclown

I cant believe someone would compare the 2.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 5:59 PM ET
rangers will show this fall that rebuilds do not take decades
- homiedclown

People wanting to play there always helps

It’s not like we’ve ever had the option to add a Panarin for no assets
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:02 PM ET
0 I believe
- Stripes77


Recapture Penalty is the amount of Net Cap Benefit realized / number of years remaing.

In Okposo's case, there has been $4m of Net Cap Benefit and he will have 3 years remaining after this upcoming season..so $1.3 per over following 3 years.
He would lose about $14m by walking after next season.

Might be better to talk to his wife about the health risk issues associated with playing vs that cushy job in the Broadcast Booth between periods for say $4m for 2 seasons.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:04 PM ET
There's 4m frontloaded. Spread over 3 remaining years = 1.33m. Fairly sure it's that simple.
- Lunaion


You are the resident genius on the Cap, contracts, buyouts and whatnot.
Nice job!

What do you do for a living.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 8 @ 6:04 PM ET
People wanting to play there always helps

It’s not like we’ve ever had the option to add a Panarin for no assets

- sbroads24


Tangentially related, but can you imagine if the sabres were the BJs and we lost Panarin, Bob and Duchene in one off-season? The collective psyche would never recover.

It would make Briere/Drury look like Franson walking in FA
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 8 @ 6:07 PM ET
rangers will be in the playoffs in 2020
- homiedclown


Well when you are the city that never sleeps and can attract a guy like Panarin that helps. Let’s be real though, this rebuild has been in motion for the last 3 years even if they had relative success.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 8 @ 6:08 PM ET
People wanting to play there always helps

It’s not like we’ve ever had the option to add a Panarin for no assets

- sbroads24


No kidding lol
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:09 PM ET
Tangentially related, but can you imagine if the sabres were the BJs and we lost Panarin, Bob and Duchene in one off-season? The collective psyche would never recover.

It would make Briere/Drury look like Franson walking in FA

- jcragcrumple


Probably, but at least they knew it was a distinct possibility going into it.
A good casexstudy over the next couple years to watch.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 8 @ 6:18 PM ET
That's absurd.

Marroon won the cup this year
Tom Wilson beat reaves in the cup the year before.

Gone? More like winners

- Boss34


Oh, FFS, ROR and Tarasenko won the Cup this year and Kuznetsov and Ovechkin beat, I don't know, Marchessault and Smith? the year before. Reaves scored 2 goals, one that hit him in the ass and bounced in and one where he cross checked a guy before putting it into an empty net.
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