Buds, take the L, give up on it already. Ferland does not have to be protected. Or you can go on pretending, doesn't matter to me, enjoy your day....
- chompsey

ill take the L when its confirmed. so far only puckpedia has commented and people have ran with it. we dont have to keep debating it, feel free to rub it in my face later though if you win

Cool, UFA's....the point being, 2021-22 contract status....
- chompsey

They would be under contract for 2020-21 season thus eligible to be selected by Seattle in June 2021

Their 2021-22 status would be UFA, Thus they are a pending UFA, technically still under contract from the previous season, thus eligible to be selected

After the KHL season ends he will be free to sign, but they won’t have the cap space available...
- 1970vintage

Accumulated LTIR relief adds up

Your hung up on the date not the season for the contract Seattle starts in.
- Nighthawk

from the announcement:
* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.


https://www.nhl.com/news/...ghts-followed/c-302586918

specifically does not reference the following season. it literally references the status during the actual day/time of the draft. im not claiming to be a lawyer here, it just reads pretty clear to me that the next year has nothing to do with it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

from the announcement:
* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.


https://www.nhl.com/news/...ghts-followed/c-302586918

specifically does not reference the following season. it literally references the status during the actual day/time of the draft. im not claiming to be a lawyer here, it just reads pretty clear to me that the next year has nothing to do with it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- johnnykarate

Then why is Edler not needing protection if only a 2yr contract?

Then why is Edler not needing protection if only a 2yr contract?
- Nighthawk

He'll waive protection because he's a UFA a week later anyways

At that point, he'll retire, resign in Vancouver, or pick his new destination

As a courtesy, He'll just waive the NMC, because there would be no point in enforcing it - It also may be written into his contract

https://www.prohockeyrumo...th-vancouver-canucks.html

"Instead, the two sides have come to an agreement that will see the veteran defenseman hit the open market in 2021. While that technically leaves him open to being selected in the draft—expansion clubs are allowed to take a certain number of pending free agents—he would never have to actually play for Seattle if he didn’t want to."

According to the NHL website, its 2021-22 contracts sooooo....
- chompsey

Teams are required to expose players who are under contract for the upcoming season, but contract clauses are in effect until July 1. It’s ok that can’t understand, the Ontario water has that effect on people. Johnny posted a pretty well worded explanation from Cap Friendly, who I think knows more about it than you or the NHL

Accumulated LTIR relief adds up
- Nighthawk

No it doesn’t. You can only go over while a player is on LTIR, and only by the amount of that particular contract, and if you aren’t already at the cap limit, you don’t get to put that “in the bank” from earlier in the year.

Then why is Edler not needing protection if only a 2yr contract?
- Nighthawk

Because he is a pending UFA

I'm feeling less pessimistic.

No it doesn’t. You can only go over while a player is on LTIR, and only by the amount of that particular contract, and if you aren’t already at the cap limit, you don’t get to put that “in the bank” from earlier in the year.
- 1970vintage

Injured Reserve money adds up

When a guys on IR, his salary paid does not count towards the cap

It's the main difference between IR and LTIR

IR lets you bank the savings to use later, LTIR lets you go over the cap to spend the money now

Probably saw a tall white guy from a distance and assumed it was.


Was probably Kevin Love, that dude’s having the time of his life in Whistler
- Nucker101

Maybe it was Big Country?

Coming in late to today's signing.

I thought Ferland didn't want to sign in Vancouver?


I like it.

Ferland with Bo and Pearson is a big upgrade to Sven imo.

We have a glut of forwards though obviously.
Need to move on from at least 2 of : Sven, Schaller and Eriksson.

In JB we trust.

From the Vegas draft & rules are the same.

Teams were required to protect any contracted players with no move clauses (NMCs) with one of the team's slots for protected players, unless the contract expired on July 1, 2017, in which case the NMC was considered void for the draft.

Injured Reserve money adds up

When a guys on IR, his salary paid does not count towards the cap

It's the main difference between IR and LTIR

IR lets you bank the savings to use later, LTIR lets you go over the cap to spend the money now
- RoloTahmasee

Stop being so retarded. When you put a player on IR, you call up another player to fill their roster spot. IR is short term, so even if that players salary doesn’t count against the cap it’s a minimal amount.

Because he is a pending UFA
- 1970vintage

I know that lol
Question was for Johnny.

From the Vegas draft & rules are the same.

Teams were required to protect any contracted players with no move clauses (NMCs) with one of the team's slots for protected players, unless the contract expired on July 1, 2017, in which case the NMC was considered void for the draft.
- Nighthawk

Which is what Johnny is saying.

I'm feeling less pessimistic.
- Marwood

Not feeling well?

I'm feeling less pessimistic.
- Marwood

Posted this on Tanner’s blog and it got deleted.

Because he is a pending UFA
- 1970vintage

This is true. Just looked it up

It is the only exception to the NMC

Then why is Edler not needing protection if only a 2yr contract?
- Nighthawk

his contract expires.

Handling No Move Clauses
One big detail that has been clarified has to do with no move clauses (NMCs). Each team is allowed to protect seven forwards, three defenseman and one goaltender (or eight skaters and a goaltender). All other players are exposed to the expansion draft. Teams will be required to protect any players on contract carrying a NMC, and they will count against the number of players that the team is allowed to protect.

But according to reports from Chris Johnston and Elliotte Friedman, players whose contract expires on July 1 will not need to be protected if they have a no move clause.

This was important because player contracts technically expire on July 1 and the expansion draft is likely to take place a couple of weeks prior to that date. For instance, next summer, the likely date of the expansion draft, the Minnesota Wild will not need to protect Thomas Vanek, who will have just completed his final season on his current contract, which carries a NMC.

https://thehockeywriters....draft-rules-gain-clarity/

Stop being so retarded. When you put a player on IR, you call up another player to fill their roster spot. IR is short term, so even if that players salary doesn’t count against the cap it’s a minimal amount.
- 1970vintage

4 mths of man games lost adds up. Signing Tree is at a pro rated contract.

From the Vegas draft & rules are the same.

Teams were required to protect any contracted players with no move clauses (NMCs) with one of the team's slots for protected players, unless the contract expired on July 1, 2017, in which case the NMC was considered void for the draft.
- Nighthawk

yes. and ferlands contract doesnt expire right after the seattle draft so it remains valid

Stop being so retarded. When you put a player on IR, you call up another player to fill their roster spot. IR is short term, so even if that players salary doesn’t count against the cap it’s a minimal amount.
- 1970vintage

If McDavid goes on IR and they call up a guy making 800k then it does add up

Point being, IR money does accumulate, and you are wrong