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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 6:36 PM ET
Venison can't skate for sh¡t though



- Wetbandit1

so girgens needs to be named venison
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
The year is 2024, Larsson and Girgensons sign their 1 year 2.4 mil extension and we are talking about how they will only be here for another year until the young guys take over
- sbroads24


SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
Ralphie is going to fix this team mark my words.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
so girgens needs to be named venison
- homiedclown


He can be named Bambi.

Bambi - Thumper (Larry) - Owlposo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 7:01 PM ET
He can be named Bambi.

Bambi - Thumper (Larry) - Owlposo

- thatsapickle

oh my
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 12 @ 7:05 PM ET
Ralphie is going to fix this team mark my words.
- SRam19


Well, we have tried all the other coaches in the NHL. So if he cant, may be it's time to blame someone else.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 12 @ 7:10 PM ET
Well, we have tried all the other coaches in the NHL. So if he cant, may be it's time to blame someone else.
- seedy


Society, millennials, the military industrial complex, Jesus or the Smoking Man
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:11 PM ET
Well, we have tried all the other coaches in the NHL. So if he cant, may be it's time to blame someone else.
- seedy



I blame the water that makes the ice. That has to be the real reason the team is so bad.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 12 @ 7:14 PM ET
Society, millennials, the military industrial complex, Jesus or the Smoking Man
- jcragcrumple



Hillary Clinton
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 7:16 PM ET
Ralphie is going to fix this team mark my words.
- SRam19

Who is team mark?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 12 @ 7:18 PM ET
Society, millennials, the military industrial complex, Jesus or the Smoking Man
- jcragcrumple



thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:19 PM ET
Who is team mark?
- Mentalorgasm5



The guy on acid in Empire Records?

I am at work and cannot access an image to put in here.

I'd probably screw up the site formatting anyway.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 12 @ 7:20 PM ET
Society, millennials, the military industrial complex, Jesus or the Smoking Man

I blame the water that makes the ice. That has to be the real reason the team is so bad.

Hillary Clinton


I like where you guys are going with this...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 12 @ 7:29 PM ET

- Wetbandit1


I am free to speak my mind, friend. The 1st amendment guarantees my that right. You are the darkness in need of a glow in the dark watch or something
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
I am free to speak my mind, friend. The 1st amendment guarantees my that right. You are the darkness in need of a glow in the dark watch or something
- jcragcrumple


Time to meet in a park and settle this, bros!

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:26 PM ET
I like venom, as he already got us once
- homiedclown


Jimmy Feces

(Works for barnyard, too)
icemen
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.14.2006

Jul 12 @ 8:31 PM ET
its a waste of money for both of them. If this team was good ideally you would have a fourth line of erod and cj Smith. Then you have good middle scoring bc them guys are pushed down. Larson sucks, he is lost in the defensive zone, can’t skate worth poop and sucks on face offs (50%) isn’t good. Both are losers and are what is wrong with this team. Signing these two back is a terrible mistake by Botts. My hope is they get sent to Rochester and someone claims them on waivers or are included in a Risto deal.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
its a waste of money for both of them. If this team was good ideally you would have a fourth line of erod and cj Smith. Then you have good middle scoring bc them guys are pushed down. Larson sucks, he is lost in the defensive zone, can’t skate worth poop and sucks on face offs (50%) isn’t good. Both are losers and are what is wrong with this team. Signing these two back is a terrible mistake by Botts. My hope is they get sent to Rochester and someone claims them on waivers or are included in a Risto deal.
- icemen


Someone has to play defense, until they replace them, they'll be playing third line minutes.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:45 PM ET
What do you think Risto is worth?
- hehateme



It’s tough to say

I’d keep in mind that the teams that would want to trade for him, are gonna see him as a good defenseman and not a “4”

So i think the return should be pretty good

89 said we were talking to the Jets about Risto for Laine
One would assume we’d have to add
But just that Laine’s name is in the conversation says to me that Botts is at least looking for a really good player back
And he clearly wasn’t hung up on when he brought up Laine

I think Ehlers (or someone like that) is more realistic though
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 12 @ 9:20 PM ET
It’s tough to say

I’d keep in mind that the teams that would want to trade for him, are gonna see him as a good defenseman and not a “4”

So i think the return should be pretty good

89 said we were talking to the Jets about Risto for Laine
One would assume we’d have to add
But just that Laine’s name is in the conversation says to me that Botts is at least looking for a really good player back
And he clearly wasn’t hung up on when he brought up Laine

I think Ehlers (or someone like that) is more realistic though

- jdfitz77


I think we have to recalibrate our sense of what "good" means. It's not a shot at you, but many people either think Risto is butt or he's really good.

Risto is good, and he is a #4 defenseman. He's useful in the right situation. You don't have to be a top-pairing defenseman to be good. He's a defenseman with liabilities and strengths.

That said, I think your valuation of comparables is pretty good
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 9:42 PM ET
It’s tough to say

I’d keep in mind that the teams that would want to trade for him, are gonna see him as a good defenseman and not a “4”

So i think the return should be pretty good

89 said we were talking to the Jets about Risto for Laine
One would assume we’d have to add
But just that Laine’s name is in the conversation says to me that Botts is at least looking for a really good player back
And he clearly wasn’t hung up on when he brought up Laine

I think Ehlers (or someone like that) is more realistic though

- jdfitz77

Harmonic is a good 4th d man

He got a first and two seconds

I think
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 12 @ 9:49 PM ET
I think we have to recalibrate our sense of what "good" means. It's not a shot at you, but many people either think Risto is butt or he's really good.

Risto is good, and he is a #4 defenseman. He's useful in the right situation. You don't have to be a top-pairing defenseman to be good. He's a defenseman with liabilities and strengths.

That said, I think your valuation of comparables is pretty good

- jcragcrumple

Like you kinda said, good is a relative term.

He is not a good top pairing D man.

He’s an ok #3. Probably a good #4.

I think Ehlers makes sense
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
Like you kinda said, good is a relative term.

He is not a good top pairing D man.

He’s an ok #3. Probably a good #4.

I think Ehlers makes sense

- sbroads24


Can he play RW?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 12 @ 10:03 PM ET
Can he play RW?
- SabreWest


At some point, we need to start asking if they are RW's, instead of just capable of doing it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:45 PM ET
too many scrubs under our 50 man contracts


can't go forward if you revisit the past and expect different results

housley was not the only problem
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