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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 15 @ 11:00 PM ET
Kind of like how a 36 year old Pominville was on pace for 25 with Eichel yet we had to pay a winger $9M over 8 years to play with him who had the best shooting percentage of his career in a contract year
- Swedish_Jesus


I think this is a little dismissive of Pominville. He still knows how to score, his body has just deserted him. He's still a smart player and he can shoot, he just O L D
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:06 PM ET
I think this is a little dismissive of Pominville. He still knows how to score, his body has just deserted him. He's still a smart player and he can shoot, he just O L D
- jcragcrumple

That’s your error if you think his comment had any other points than to bash Skinner
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 15 @ 11:10 PM ET
That’s your error if you think his comment had any other points than to bash Skinner
- sbroads24




Oh no, I got it. But using Pominville in that context was sort of like saying "any organ grinder's monkey can write a sonata if it's put in a room with Beethoven"
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:10 PM ET
Let's revisit this after pre season
- homiedclown


Fair
I’ve never seen the guy play & know little about him
Just repeating what the guy who’s seen him play a bunch said
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:14 PM ET
Tage and Alex put up the same number of points. Tage was clearly the better RW.
- Lunaion


And he had *some* NHL experience. Frankly, I think they both should have started in Rochester, but we were pretty thin at the NHL level.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:15 PM ET


Oh no, I got it. But using Pominville in that context was sort of like saying "any organ grinder's monkey can write a sonata if it's put in a room with Beethoven"

- jcragcrumple

Not directed at you, but it’s amazing to me how revisionist this board is about this past years team.

Skinner was (frank)ing excellent. He wasn’t tapping in Eichel’s set ups and doing nothing g else. He caused turnovers, caused penalties. Had dominant possession numbers

Also, just the team in general was not just a 10 game streak and then the NHL’s worst team.

They were slightly above 500. for what 20 games before the streak?

We are an above average team with the moves made and if coaching is semi competent
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:16 PM ET
He’s most likely going to be a 70 point player with kane
- gerbe75pts


70 points for his career maybe... he’s way to soft to ever amount to anything.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 15 @ 11:16 PM ET
That’s your error if you think his comment had any other points than to bash Skinner
- sbroads24


Remember when Eichel had 5 goals in his first 25 and a shooting percentage of 5% ? Cause any shot the guy took he had to go end to end and take the shot with 3 guys in his face ? Skinner is a volume shooter. He better score 40 cause he essentially useless at every other facet of the game of hockey.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 11:20 PM ET
We’ve see what Pommer is now

A pretty good player when on line with Jack,
but only for about 1/3 - 1/2 of a season

Then he’s pretty mediocre for the rest of the year
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:22 PM ET
Remember when Eichel had 5 goals in his first 25 and a shooting percentage of 5% ? Cause any shot the guy took he had to go end to end and take the shot with 3 guys in his face ? Skinner is a volume shooter. He better score 40 cause he essentially useless at every other facet of the game of hockey.
- Swedish_Jesus

He ranked 19th among all forwards in takeaways at 5 on 5

*useless*

7th among forwards in penalties drawn

*useless*

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 15 @ 11:26 PM ET
Not directed at you, but it’s amazing to me how revisionist this board is about this past years team.

Skinner was (frank)ing excellent.
He wasn’t tapping in Eichel’s set ups and doing nothing g else. He caused turnovers, caused penalties. Had dominant possession numbers

Also, just the team in general was not just a 10 game streak and then the NHL’s worst team.

They were slightly above 500. for what 20 games before the streak?

We are an above average team with the moves made and if coaching is semi competent

- sbroads24


Yeah, and he's just plain fun to watch
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 15 @ 11:29 PM ET
Remember when Eichel had 5 goals in his first 25 and a shooting percentage of 5% ? Cause any shot the guy took he had to go end to end and take the shot with 3 guys in his face ? Skinner is a volume shooter. He better score 40 cause he essentially useless at every other facet of the game of hockey.
- Swedish_Jesus


Eichel shot poorly the first quarter of the season. Why are you inventing excuses?

Skinner generates offense at an elite level. He's more of a finisher than a set up guy. Why is that bad?
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 15 @ 11:30 PM ET
He ranked 19th among all forwards in takeaways at 5 on 5

*useless*

7th among forwards in penalties drawn

*useless*

- sbroads24


Yea he’s such an elite winger that 3/4 of the league lined up for him last summer..... We got him for poo. Who was paying Skinner $10.28M per in free agency this year over 7 years to match what we gave him ? Even Botts knows deep down he got franked that’s why it took him till June to swallow his pride and make the fan base happy. The same fan base that will lose their lids when he’s a 50 point winger making elite player money.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:33 PM ET
Yea he’s such an elite winger that 3/4 of the league lined up for him last summer..... We got him for poo. Who was paying Skinner $10.28M per in free agency this year over 7 years to match what we gave him ? Even Botts knows deep down he got franked that’s why it took him till June to swallow his pride and make the fan base happy. The same fan base that will lose their lids when he’s a 50 point winger making elite player money.
- Swedish_Jesus

Yes let’s forget he had to waive to make a trade happen
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 15 @ 11:41 PM ET
Yea he’s such an elite winger that 3/4 of the league lined up for him last summer..... We got him for poo. Who was paying Skinner $10.28M per in free agency this year over 7 years to match what we gave him ? Even Botts knows deep down he got franked that’s why it took him till June to swallow his pride and make the fan base happy. The same fan base that will lose their lids when he’s a 50 point winger making elite player money.
- Swedish_Jesus

This
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 15 @ 11:44 PM ET
Jesus Christ, people are still whining about our 40 goal scorer?

We get it. You don't like him.

Move on. Ffs.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 15 @ 11:51 PM ET
Eichel shot poorly the first quarter of the season. Why are you inventing excuses?

Skinner generates offense at an elite level. He's more of a finisher than a set up guy. Why is that bad?

- Lunaion


Do you think it’s a coincidence that once Reinhart jumped up on that line Eichel started scoring ? Someone who can slow the play down in the offensive zone and actually give Eichel the puck in prime scoring areas ?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:54 PM ET
Do you think it’s a coincidence that once Reinhart jumped up on that line Eichel started scoring ? Someone who can slow the play down in the offensive zone and actually give Eichel the puck in prime scoring areas ?
- Swedish_Jesus

Why hasn’t Reinhart scored 40 goals with Eichel?

I mean, you’d think it’s really easy to do considering Skinner did it
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:02 AM ET
Yea he’s such an elite winger that 3/4 of the league lined up for him last summer..... We got him for poo. Who was paying Skinner $10.28M per in free agency this year over 7 years to match what we gave him ? Even Botts knows deep down he got franked that’s why it took him till June to swallow his pride and make the fan base happy. The same fan base that will lose their lids when he’s a 50 point winger making elite player money.
- Swedish_Jesus


Dude just stop. Your incessant bashing of Skinner detracts from all your other mostly reasonable posts and makes you look ridiculous. Don't join the "skip post" club like so many others have here
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 16 @ 12:06 AM ET
Why hasn’t Reinhart scored 40 goals with Eichel?

I mean, you’d think it’s really easy to do considering Skinner did it

- sbroads24


Reinhart doesn’t have to score 40. If Sam plays a full 82 with Eichel he probably puts up 70-75 points and hits 30 goals, with Eichel hitting 35 goals and most likely 95 points. Skinner is a one dimensional goal scorer who pots 40 and gets 63 points. Sam has also proven he can drive his own line, Skinner drives his own production and that’s it and that’s all.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 16 @ 12:10 AM ET
Dude just stop. Your incessant bashing of Skinner detracts from all your other mostly reasonable posts and makes you look ridiculous. Don't join the "skip post" club like so many others have here
- joevthree


Skinner has value, he’s a bonafide top 6 forward and can bury the biscuit. He will never be worth that contract and I’m sorry in a salary cap would every penny counts.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 16 @ 12:22 AM ET
Reinhart doesn’t have to score 40. If Sam plays a full 82 with Eichel he probably puts up 70-75 points and hits 30 goals, with Eichel hitting 35 goals and most likely 95 points. Skinner is a one dimensional goal scorer who pots 40 and gets 63 points. Sam has also proven he can drive his own line, Skinner drives his own production and that’s it and that’s all.
- Swedish_Jesus


That 2nd line, with Sam 'driving' was impressive last year.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 16 @ 12:35 AM ET
That 2nd line, with Sam 'driving' was impressive last year.
- Lunaion


Looked a lot better then the sample sizes that Skinner had away from Eichel. Sam also had more points then Skinner in total this year.

Blah, blah, blah secondary assists and assists in general don’t matter. Yet if they are so easy to obtain then why does Skinner average 23 assists a season in his entire career ? Skinner is a one trick pony, and it’s a good thing the one thing he has in his bag of tricks he does better then a majority of the league. However, that does not make him an elite player. Panarin didn’t even pot 30 this year yet got $11.65M, weird.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 12:40 AM ET
Skinner is elite he’s going to be such a gamer in the playoffs

He is so clutch
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 16 @ 12:42 AM ET
Looked a lot better then the sample sizes that Skinner had away from Eichel. Sam also had more points then Skinner in total this year.

Blah, blah, blah secondary assists and assists in general don’t matter. Yet if they are so easy to obtain then why does Skinner average 23 assists a season in his entire career ? Skinner is a one trick pony, and it’s a good thing the one thing he has in his bag of tricks he does better then a majority of the league. However, that does not make him an elite player. Panarin didn’t even pot 30 this year yet got $11.65M, weird.

- Swedish_Jesus


Sam 'drove' the worst 2nd line hockey, before his 'promotion'. Deflect back to your crusade against Skinner, if you you like. It's entertaining to see how far you'll take it.
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