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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:31 PM ET
It is time that the Sabres made a couple of additional moves to take this team to the next level. I propose that we deal on July 18 after Lucic gets his $3 million bonus as follows:

Ristolainen ($5.4million next three years)
Scandela ($4.0 million for one year)
Sobotka ($3.5 million for one year)
Wilson ($1.05 million for one year)
Plus Buffalo's 6th round pick in 2020

For

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($6.0 million next two years)
Milan Lucic ($6 million next four years, where Edmonton pays $2 million of his salary for each of the next 4 years)
Jesse Puljujarvi ($1 million RFA for 1 year Maybe)
Edmonton's 4th round pick in 2021)

Eichel would play with Skinner & Olafsson/Pomminville on the 1st line
Nugent Hopkins would play with Reinhart and C J Smith/ Sheary on the 2nd line
Mittlestadt would play Lucic/Sheary/Thompson and Okposo/Puljujarvi on the 3rd line
Larsson would play with Girgensons and Lucic/Thompson/Sheary/Smith/Pomminville on the 4th line


This is 14 forwards, but you manage the load by never allowing the older forwards to play back to back games or only play if someone is injured or one of the younger players is not going.
Pomminville, Lucic, Okposo, Thompson or whoever is not playing well sit out

Pomminville has to sign a 1 year contract for $2million knowing that he will play about 60 games. Hunwick needs to sign a contract extension.

On defense you have

Dahlin Montador
Jokiharju Miller
McCabe Begosian
Hunwick Pilut
Casey Nelson and Willie Borgen
For the expansion draft, you then have Lucic and Okposo available.

To me this looks like the best trade option for Buffalo other than sending:
1) Okposo to Nashville for Turris where we take on an extra $6million for the fifth year of the contracts and get someone who can play center for a winger
2)Risto and Wilson to Philly for Couturier and a prospect defenseman
3)Risto and Sobotka to Columbus for Boon Jenner and Dennis Savard/Nick Foligno

Hope these ideas make sense
Risto, Scandella, sobotka and a couple of pickS for Kopitar would be great as well.

Hopefully Botterill is still out there working the phones

- RicoMartin



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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 6:25 PM ET
Skinner/Eichel/Mantha
Olofsson/Mittelstadt/Reinhart
Vesey/Rodrigues/Johansson
Girgensons/Larsson/Okposo
Sheary
CJ Smith

Sobotka to Iceland


Thatā€™s an NHL lineup

- sbroads24


Not nearly far enough away.

The middle of the ocean roughly 1100 miles SW off the cost of Perth is a better place.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 14 @ 6:38 PM ET
Not nearly far enough away.

The middle of the ocean roughly 1100 miles SW off the cost of Perth is a better place.

- Wetbandit1


If I learned anything from Mighty Ducks 2, Iceland is very nice, and Greenland is covered with ice
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 14 @ 6:44 PM ET
I think itā€™s looking like a playoff team. If the coaching/goaltending is up to par.

That and trading Ristolainen for a legit forward.

We have a young franchise center and franchise D man. Thatā€™s incredibly important

We have acquired depth with playoff experience in Miller and Johansson

Other solid young D depth in Montour/Joker who werenā€™t here or here all of last year

Mittelstadt will be better. Olofsson could be a shockingly good player

This team is one move away from being pretty dangerous.

Its a good time to be a Sabre fan

- sbroads24


True, but the forward roster as of today is top heavy and its success is predicated on the development of Mittelstadt and Olofsson's ability to score 20+ goals. Not unreasonable by any means, but still it's reliant on what-ifs rather than proven talent. There's some definite quality, buts it's still short of proven quantity.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:46 PM ET
What about this Risto for Mantha talk?
- Powerslave


Mantha for Risto straight up is not worth Risto. Easy pass

Also Mantha hasnā€™t lived up to his draft hype.

Mantha would be the wings version of nylander
-Sabretooth9


Huh?
Martha had 25goals in 67games last year
Thatā€™s a pace of over 30goals for the season

He had 24 goals the year before
And 17goals in 60games as a rookie (23goal pace)

So Iā€™d say heā€™s a pretty well established young scoring winger


Are u maybe thinking of someone else???
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 14 @ 7:05 PM ET
What trade
- gerbe75pts

Unrelated to your post. I think 39 said something about a plan b that will happen
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
If I learned anything from Mighty Ducks 2, Iceland is very nice, and Greenland is covered with ice
- jcragcrumple

First thing that came to my mind.
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Jul 14 @ 7:12 PM ET
Sounds like 2 opinions that you feel are %100

And

That you're smarter thAn nhl gms

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- Boss34

Fixed just for the pure irony.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:15 PM ET
It is time that the Sabres made a couple of additional moves to take this team to the next level. I propose that we deal on July 18 after Lucic gets his $3 million bonus as follows:

Ristolainen ($5.4million next three years)
Scandela ($4.0 million for one year)
Sobotka ($3.5 million for one year)
Wilson ($1.05 million for one year)
Plus Buffalo's 6th round pick in 2020

For

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($6.0 million next two years)
Milan Lucic ($6 million next four years, where Edmonton pays $2 million of his salary for each of the next 4 years)
Jesse Puljujarvi ($1 million RFA for 1 year Maybe)
Edmonton's 4th round pick in 2021)

Eichel would play with Skinner & Olafsson/Pomminville on the 1st line
Nugent Hopkins would play with Reinhart and C J Smith/ Sheary on the 2nd line
Mittlestadt would play Lucic/Sheary/Thompson and Okposo/Puljujarvi on the 3rd line
Larsson would play with Girgensons and Lucic/Thompson/Sheary/Smith/Pomminville on the 4th line


This is 14 forwards, but you manage the load by never allowing the older forwards to play back to back games or only play if someone is injured or one of the younger players is not going.
Pomminville, Lucic, Okposo, Thompson or whoever is not playing well sit out

Pomminville has to sign a 1 year contract for $2million knowing that he will play about 60 games. Hunwick needs to sign a contract extension.

On defense you have

Dahlin Montador
Jokiharju Miller
McCabe Begosian
Hunwick Pilut
Casey Nelson and Willie Borgen
For the expansion draft, you then have Lucic and Okposo available.

To me this looks like the best trade option for Buffalo other than sending:
1) Okposo to Nashville for Turris where we take on an extra $6million for the fifth year of the contracts and get someone who can play center for a winger
2)Risto and Wilson to Philly for Couturier and a prospect defenseman
3)Risto and Sobotka to Columbus for Boon Jenner and Dennis Savard/Nick Foligno

Hope these ideas make sense
Risto, Scandella, sobotka and a couple of pickS for Kopitar would be great as well.

Hopefully Botterill is still out there working the phones

- RicoMartin


A lot of thought out into this BUT I think E
EDM would hang up on you....but what do I know?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 14 @ 7:18 PM ET
A lot of thought out into this BUT I think E
EDM would hang up on you....but what do I know?

- turbo044

I know Montador is 6ā€™ under

No disrespect he seemed like a great guy
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 7:29 PM ET
I feel like we will be waiting for another move for awhile. Thereā€™s no real urgency for any teams right now.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 14 @ 7:35 PM ET
I feel like we will be waiting for another move for awhile. Thereā€™s no real urgency for any teams right now.
- thatsapickle


A move will come randomly in a few weeks, if it happens at all. My sense is they'd like to address the forward position by moving a defenseman, but only if the price is right.

- That's me doing my Dreger impression
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 14 @ 7:38 PM ET
Fixed just for the pure irony.
- Over50



I didn't correct your Jesus posts , speaking of irony

Please forgive me
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 7:38 PM ET
A move will come randomly in a few weeks, if it happens at all. My sense is they'd like to address the forward position by moving a defenseman, but only if the price is right.

- That's me doing my Dreger impression

- jcragcrumple


Then quote tweeted by McKenzie with the addition of ā€œwe know teams have called about Ristolainen. I donā€™t know if Botterill will want to move a valuable piece. It will come with a large asking price.ā€
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 14 @ 7:50 PM ET
Then quote tweeted by McKenzie with the addition of ā€œwe know teams have called about Ristolainen. I donā€™t know if Botterill will want to move a valuable piece. It will come with a large asking price.ā€
- thatsapickle


Congrats. You just made $90k a year to watch hockey and look at rosters
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 7:53 PM ET
Congrats. You just made $90k a year to watch hockey and look at rosters
- jcragcrumple


Deal. Where do I sign?

I feel like $90k is low. But I would still take it.
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Jul 14 @ 7:54 PM ET
I didn't correct your Jesus posts , speaking of irony

Please forgive me

- Boss34

Difference is, you didn't need to.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 14 @ 8:08 PM ET
A move will come randomly in a few weeks, if it happens at all. My sense is they'd like to address the forward position by moving a defenseman, but only if the price is right.

- That's me doing my Dreger impression

- jcragcrumple


I think trading a dman, probably 2 has to happen. Canā€™t go into the season with 11 or 12 nhl dmen even if two are hurt and a couple really suck.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
Difference is, you didn't need to.
- Over50



Neither did you.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 14 @ 8:16 PM ET
I think trading a dman, probably 2 has to happen. Canā€™t go into the season with 11 or 12 nhl dmen even if two are hurt and a couple really suck.
- turbo044


It's Gardiner! Once he signs, I think a deal gets done.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:25 PM ET
It's Gardiner! Once he signs, I think a deal gets done.
- Cup Crazy '07



I believe this to be true, but doesnā€™t Gardiner shoot Left?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 14 @ 8:28 PM ET
I believe this to be true, but doesnā€™t Gardiner shoot Left?
- thatsapickle


I don't think he meant "signs with Buffalo".

Once he signs with someone, the Risto deal happens.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:57 PM ET
I don't think he meant "signs with Buffalo".

Once he signs with someone, the Risto deal happens.

- Powerslave


I understand that aspect. Iā€™m just wondering if Gardiner is a left handed shot, is he in the same market as Risto.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 14 @ 9:03 PM ET
I'd do risto and McCabe for.mantha and AA
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 14 @ 9:03 PM ET
Consistent shooting percentage too.


His last 3 years
12.8
12.6
12.6

- dadeadhead

Saucy
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