Would that be best for Dach and his long term success - and the team’s? Winning the 3C spot does NOT mean he should be here in October rather than developing in juniors for another year.

And if they moved Anisimov out after seeing Dach for one day against other young and inexperienced prospects...😲
- StLBravesFan

Do you think seeing Dach play one day of development camp really had anything to do with it? They couldn't move AA fast enough once the bonus was paid.

I don't get this Smith is a 4th line plug narrative either. He hasn't really played 4th line minutes for a number of seasons now.

Kotkaniemi is a perfect example of an 18yr old center with size (he's smaller than Dach by 2" and 10lbs) stepping in a providing quality 3LC play. Montreal was in the playoff picture for much of the year, and does not have nearly the depth that the Hawks have to surround Dach with. I'm not saying he HAS to be the 3C, but it's interesting that 1 day into Prospect Camp after seeing Dach on the ice they trade Anisimov and open up a clear spot for Kirby.....
- EnzoD

It'd be great if he's ready for that. Hopefully they didn't decide that based on one day of drills. I suspect the timing of the trade was influenced more by AA's bonus payment.

I believe that a line where Shaw and Smith alternate taking draws on their strong side would be a Pain in the ass to play against. Also, if I'm making a bet, I'd bet on Dach being the 3C for opening night between Saad and Shaw.


??-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-??
Saad-Dach-Shaw
Smith-Kampf-Carpenter


?? Battling for spots : Perlini?, Kubalik, Sikura, Nylander, Caggiulla
- EnzoD

I bet you would win that bet based on

1) How much the team is pumping his tires
2) The maturity Dach has shown in his character
3) We just traded our placeholder 3C (Anisimov)

Regular IR still counts against the cap. The amount a team is below the cap can be banked. LTIR space cannot be banked.
- mohel

Thanks for clearing that up.

I bet you would win that bet based on

1) How much the team is pumping his tires
2) The maturity Dach has shown in his character
3) We just traded our placeholder 3C (Anisimov)
- breadbag

Saad-Dach-Shaw could be one heck of a handful for 3rd pair defense-man to handle with the speed, size and skill combination coming at them....

After the experience of the last 2 years, without cross examining Stan, I would guess he considered shoring up the goaltending situation (after the # 1 goaltender has missed significant time during that period) more important than what might happen regarding injuries to players at other positions. Or maybe he has more (in your opinion misplaced) faith in potential replacements on the roster. Or maybe Stan is not done, and more moves to be made.
- LAHawk

Lehner will be the number one goalie this year, hasn't management always
had a problem w/Corey?

I think Corey is who get's traded next, but it'll be a sad day for me if
when that happens. Say what one will but Corey was the most under rated
goalie of the past decade and if I was a GM and wanted a goalie for one game
7 to win, Corey would be my pick

Nice, we have a 1C

Do you think seeing Dach play one day of development camp really had anything to do with it? They couldn't move AA fast enough once the bonus was paid.

I don't get this Smith is a 4th line plug narrative either. He hasn't really played 4th line minutes for a number of seasons now.
- breadbag

dach 1-2 review in camp had nothing to do with moving AA...my gawd this move had been expected since the end of the season....even the fake gm's in here fully expected it and new it was necessary...

it looks like there was not much interest in the great 3C arte...sens saw a way to a get a cap increase but save real $$'s and a guy they plug in at number 2C ...hooray for them as they head for another lottery pick..

Lehner will be the number one goalie this year, hasn't management always
had a problem w/Corey?

I think Corey is who get's traded next, but it'll be a sad day for me if
when that happens. Say what one will but Corey was the most under rated
goalie of the past decade and if I was a GM and wanted a goalie for one game
7 to win, Corey would be my pick
- gazza53

yeah one manufactured by this board...

Would you rather have Delia and Anisimov or Lehner and Smith?
- EbonyRaptor

Only one goalie available on the market this season?

I'll take vet backup goalie for $3.5 -$4M and AA. Unless, of course, they obtain a 3C another way. Or if the kid is ready. In that case the AA trade doesn't matter much.

Didn't the hawks win in 2013 with a rookie center named Andrew Shaw? Why is everyone so against a rookie being a 3C.. It might not be Dach, maybe it will be Kurashev, supposedly he is looking very good in camp, and they were impressed with his games he played at the end of the season with Rockford.
- LAHawk

Exactly, maybe both make it initially w/Kurashev between 20-65
and Dach next to 19-88

I don't remember the players but somebody took a cheap shot at a Hawk in the playoffs and Byufleign annilated them.
- rpeters01

Buff was great and that team just wore you down, Bolland, Ladd, Fraser
etc.etc.

Only one goalie available on the market this season?

I'll take vet backup goalie for $3.5 -$4M and AA. Unless, of course, they obtain a 3C another way. Or if the kid is ready. In that case the AA trade doesn't matter much.
- mohel

Tyler did a post on those goalies none of them were any good.

Nice, we have a 1C
- DutchSenators

Arty is definitely not the most fleet of foot and cannot win a draw to save his life but he has no problem going to the traffic areas and is a decent screen with his big frame.

Buff was great and that team just wore you down, Bolland, Ladd, Fraser
etc.etc.
- gazza53

I think 4th line had Burish and Eager who were animals.

2010 2nd line center Colin Fraser????
2013 2nd line center Micheal Handzus
2015 2nd line center Brad Richards

needing a great 2nd line center might be a bit over rated
- gazza53

Toews, Sharp, Bolland, Madden in 2010 was pretty dope up the middle.

Toews, Zues, Bolland, Kruger in 2013 on the best team end to end in the league was neat.

Toews, Richards, Vermette, Kruger also pretty strong.

With Kane you can get by with a slower and heady veteran but every team to lift the Cup post lockout has had 4 competent centers at a minimum and been in most cases pretty sick up the middle.

STL wasn't super great but solid down the pipe. Boston strong up the middle. LA when winning was strong up the middle. Pens, Detroit and Hawks obviously.

The Hawks should be fine there. Their success more hinges on killing penalties, getting outstanding goaltending and Kane hitting triple digits again then anything else which all should improve enough to get them into the playoffs at this point.

Is this team way better then last year? Nahhhhh. Is it marginally better enough to be more successful in a league with a lot of parity? For sure on paper at least.

They made a money move to remedy an extension they should have waited on. Not a whole lot more to read into that.

Exactly, maybe both make it initially w/Kurashev between 20-65
and Dach next to 19-88
- gazza53

I'm excited to see what Kurashev brings to training camp this fall. I think him and Entwistle have a future as 3rd line players in the NHL.

Toews, Sharp, Bolland, Madden in 2010 was pretty dope up the middle.

Toews, Zues, Bolland, Kruger in 2013 on the best team end to end in the league was neat.

Toews, Richards, Vermette, Kruger also pretty strong.

With Kane you can get by with a slower and heady veteran but every team to lift the Cup post lockout has had 4 competent centers at a minimum and been in most cases pretty sick up the middle.

STL wasn't super great but solid down the pipe. Boston strong up the middle. LA when winning was strong up the middle. Pens, Detroit and Hawks obviously.

The Hawks should be fine there. Their success more hinges on killing penalties, getting outstanding goaltending and Kane hitting triple digits again then anything else which all should improve enough to get them into the playoffs at this point.

Is this team way better then last year? Nahhhhh. Is it marginally better enough to be more successful in a league with a lot of parity? For sure on paper at least.

They made a money move to remedy an extension they should have waited on. Not a whole lot more to read into that.
- fattybeef

Shaw played 3C in 2013, Bolland was hurt most of the year. When he came back, he played wing with Krueger and Frolik.

Kotkaniemi is a perfect example of an 18yr old center with size (he's smaller than Dach by 2" and 10lbs) stepping in a providing quality 3LC play. Montreal was in the playoff picture for much of the year, and does not have nearly the depth that the Hawks have to surround Dach with. I'm not saying he HAS to be the 3C, but it's interesting that 1 day into Prospect Camp after seeing Dach on the ice they trade Anisimov and open up a clear spot for Kirby.....
- EnzoD

Amazing no one can read the tea leaves.

Dach will be the 3C to start the season.
Most likely with 2 vets as his wings.
He will get the full 9 games as 3C.
Based on his talent, size and skill, my bet is he plays the full 82 as 3C.

Shaw played 3C in 2013, Bolland was hurt most of the year. When he came back, he played wing with Krueger and Frolik.
- LAHawk

And scored the cup winning goal in Boston.

Amazing no one can read the tea leaves.

Dach will be the 3C to start the season.
Most likely with 2 vets as his wings.
He will get the full 9 games as 3C.
Based on his talent, size and skill, my bet is he plays the full 82 as 3C.
- scottak

As long as the crystal ball is open, what's the plan if Dach goes back to Juniors after 9 games?

Amazing no one can read the tea leaves.

Dach will be the 3C to start the season.
Most likely with 2 vets as his wings.
He will get the full 9 games as 3C.
Based on his talent, size and skill, my bet is he plays the full 82 as 3C.
- scottak

Yup!

#Blackhawks Bowman saying in draft-centric media session he expects Boqvist to turn pro this season - be it @goicehogs or NHL - rather than a second season in juniors.

— Chris Boden (@BodenTweets) July 17, 2019

A team can bank cap space during the year, but injuries don't add to this. The easiest way would be to run a 20 man roster.

As for the CBA, the answer to your question is at the bottom of page 103 - Section 16.11.d :

Once a Player is placed on the Injured Reserve List, the Club may replace said
Player on its NHL Active Roster with another Player, and during such period of his designation as an Injured Reserve Player he will not count against the Club's Active Roster limit, provided, however, that the Injured Reserve Player's Player Salary and Bonuses and his replacement's Player Salary and Bonuses are each included in calculating a Club's Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary, and the Players' Share, for purposes of Article 50.

So, putting a player on IR (not LTIR) and calling up another player actually increases the team's cap hit.

I hope this makes sense.
- Tanuki

Thanks. I had it bass ackwards.

As far as jam, I do think there are some of those guys on the farm now that maybe could compete for jobs in a year like Highmore, Hagel, Entwistle, Reese Johnson...but when or if they ever make the team is another question.
- HawkintheD

There definitely are prospects who can be bottom 6 role players who can play strong defense, agitate, and chip in opportune goals similar to what Smith has done in his career. Many of them are better skaters than Smith, too.

You named a few like Highmore and Johnson. There are others like Soderlund, Hakkarainen, Slavin, and Foo. Perhaps Barratt but I think of him, Entwistle, and Kurashev as more middle 6 potential than bottom 6.