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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
Just spit out my coffee...

You win today

Everyone can go home now

- Stripes77

Pretty much
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
They want to add “grit and snarl”

He would do that.

- ImThatGuy


You can do that without trading for, and I'll reuse the word here, a troglodyte.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
This is where snagging Matt Perreault would be neat.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
This.

Sign Gardiner.

Trade Sheary, Girg and Risto
For
Kassian and RNH

Sign Gardiner.

Trade Scandella to WPG
Waive Vladdy
Waive Wilson


Skinner - Eichel - Skunk
VO - RNH - Mitts
Vesey - Johansson - Okposo
Erod - Larsson - Kassian

Dahlin - Miller
Gardiner - Montour
McCabe - Joki
Nelson

- ImThatGuy


Where's the second Gardiner we signed gonna play?
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
This is where snagging Matt Perrault would be neat.
- TheSabresTaco


Do you think there would be any chance we could steal Kyle Connor from them?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
Having no other good RWs besides Reinhart is an emergency right? Joking. But what's the CBA definition of an emergency?
- jcragcrumple


I believe it's just the same definition as the typical emergency recall from the AHL: less than 12F/6D/2G. I don't think anyone's really gone straight to the CHL as their first option, but without checking, I believe they technically could.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
He may not even play center in the NHL. See Reinhart.
- ImThatGuy


The anti Cozens. High IQ, average speed. As long as you can play fast, effectively, you're likely to be a solid NHLer. And Cozens up this point has done just that.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
I believe it's just the same definition as the typical emergency recall from the AHL: less than 12F/6D/2G. I don't think anyone's really gone straight to the CHL as their first option, but without checking, I believe they technically could.
- Lunaion


I thought we did it with Guhle one time. Or maybe they just talked about doing it
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
Where's the second Gardiner we signed gonna play?
- SDSabre



Shhhh it’s a secret.

He’s gona come out wwe style and rip off the opposing teams jersey displaying a Sabres jersey with the puck in the their d-zone turn around and shoot in goal.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
Do you think there would be any chance we could steal Kyle Connor from them?
- Phatjohnsn


I think in that deal, the Sabres come out losers. Or loosers for the Sabresbuzz crowd. Unless he pulls a Trouba, and I don't think he has/will.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
I thought we did it with Guhle one time. Or maybe they just talked about doing it
- jcragcrumple


Nah, 19s right. We brought him for a tryout once, people got all mad we didn't bring him back, then we brought him back post deadline for "emergency recall" purposes.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Shhhh it’s a secret.

He’s gona come out wwe style and rip off the opposing teams jersey displaying a Sabres jersey with the puck in the their d-zone turn around and shoot in goal.

- ImThatGuy


The Sabres aren't nearly cool enough to pull that off. Can you imagine if the Sabres twitter handle actually read fan tweets.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
If he wins the job and he looks really good, then that's good for all involved. If he looks ok, but better than Sheary or Vesey at RW, and we choose him out of necessity, that's bad. Bad for his development, bad for the team, and bad for the standings. I think he's gonna look like Reinhart did. He's gonna get run over a bunch
- jcragcrumple


I don't think we're dealing with a player who will be as physically overwhelmed as Sam. He's already bigger and skates better.

I agree with you in general. If he shows up and looks good, then you use the 9 games and consider your options.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
I thought we did it with Guhle one time. Or maybe they just talked about doing it
- jcragcrumple


They did, as like the 13th defenseman. Buf and Roch both got hammered with injuries.

Biron way way back as well.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Nah, 19s right. We brought him for a tryout once, people got all mad we didn't bring him back, then we brought him back post deadline for "emergency recall" purposes.
- TheSabresTaco


How would that be different than recalling Cozens if Reinhart got hurt though?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jul 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
This.

Sign Gardiner.

Trade Sheary, Girg and Risto
For
Kassian and RNH

Sign Gardiner.

Trade Scandella to WPG
Waive Vladdy
Waive Wilson


Skinner - Eichel - Skunk
VO - RNH - Mitts
Vesey - Johansson - Okposo
Erod - Larsson - Kassian

Dahlin - Miller
Gardiner - Montour
McCabe - Joki
Nelson

- ImThatGuy


Oh please let this happen..... but switch Mitt and Johansson
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
How would that be different than recalling Cozens if Reinhart got hurt though?
- jcragcrumple


Emergency recalls aren't a thing prior to the deadline. You get all the callups you want. But they need to come from the minors, not the CHL. With junior players, I believe you can only call on them once, prior to the DL.
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jul 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
I think in that deal, the Sabres come out losers. Or loosers for the Sabresbuzz crowd. Unless he pulls a Trouba, and I don't think he has/will.
- TheSabresTaco


Were you being sarcastic here or would you care to elaborate on this?
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
How would that be different than recalling Cozens if Reinhart got hurt though?
- jcragcrumple


I think Lunaion covered it above, but at that time, Rochester was tapped out and calling up players from Cincinnati, so we had no one to call up from Rochester. I have no idea what the exact rules are but i think they prevent a team from just calling up a kid to try him out. Your AHL team has to be depleted to a certain extent.
sabreadvocate1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 12.12.2006

Jul 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
They want to add “grit and snarl”

He would do that.

- ImThatGuy


understood.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
How would that be different than recalling Cozens if Reinhart got hurt though?
- jcragcrumple



Why put the hex on Sam?

I already anticipate a slow start and more questions around his game.

Sam really needs to show everyone (doubters) included , that he's a 7 or 8 year 7 or 8 million $ guy.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
How would that be different than recalling Cozens if Reinhart got hurt though?
- jcragcrumple



According to this, it happened in December.

They had about 3 defensemen out with injury at the time.

https://whl.ca/article/sa...-guhle-on-emergency-basis
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
Were you being sarcastic here or would you care to elaborate on this?
- Phatjohnsn


Not being sarcastic. The Sabres will lose a trade for Kyle Conner. WPG has zero reason to trade him, and they would be fools to do so for any 'fair' return. The Sabres probably have to trade Risto, a 1st and VO. As that may sound appealing, the value for a 60-65 point forward is off who can't drive lines. I personally believe Reinhart has more value than Conner.

That all said, I like the player, the Sabres could use his services, but I personally wouldn't overpay.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
Why put the hex on Sam?

I already anticipate a slow start and more questions around his game.

Sam really needs to show everyone (doubters) included , that he's a 7 or 8 year 7 or 8 million $ guy.

- Boss34


Not sure where this comes from. For the past 1 and a half seasons, he's been playing at a high pace. Started last season at a 64 point pace through two months.
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jul 17 @ 12:05 PM ET
Not being sarcastic. The Sabres will lose a trade for Kyle Conner. WPG has zero reason to trade him, and they would be fools to do so for any 'fair' return. The Sabres probably have to trade Risto, a 1st and VO. As that may sound appealing, the value for a 60-65 point forward is off who can't drive lines. I personally believe Reinhart has more value than Conner.

That all said, I like the player, the Sabres could use his services, but I personally wouldn't overpay.

- TheSabresTaco


Well he is a young player with RFA status, presumably looking for a decent sized contract with term. WPG still needs to lock up Laine and has Roslovic knocking on the door. If the GM prioritizes Laine and thinks more highly of Roslovic, maybe they see a path to trading Connor to get a package including Risto ++ that helps them both with cap and to get some actual NHL players for cheap (someone like Girgensons maybe even to fill out bottom 6?). I'm mostly spitballing here.

You said "who can't drive lines" - are you referring to Connor? Why do you say that about him?
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