Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
|
|
|
I think Barrie gets Muzzin wether we like it or not.
And Dermott gets a shot on the RS with Rielly facing secondary comp.
Also Sandin wouldn’t be the 7th.
Other than that I agree. - Santo_44
Barrie will be getting top minutes, I think you have to put him with Rielly. |
|
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Joined: 10.20.2014
|
|
|
Says the guy talking poop about Adam French's Russian player analysis.
Leafs in 5.
- JohnFergusonJr
Yeah I’ve disagreed with some in the past and I’ve been right.
Regardless we all laugh at you so keep going.
We all could use some laughs. |
|
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
|
|
|
(frank)ing hell. I leave for a few hours, come back, and find all the windows have been licked clean. |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Id probably like him more than Petan.
But Bracco, Agostino, Engvall, Korshkov are all possible as well.
Also Shore. - Santo_44
Shore showed us nothing, times up.
Bracco isn't what the Leafs need right now, they need a big body that can contribute. |
|
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Joined: 10.20.2014
|
|
|
Barrie will be getting top minutes, I think you have to put him with Rielly. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Babcock was using Muzz against top competition late in the season and playoffs. He did a fantastic job.
Rielly was used against secondary competition and more O zone starts so he could score more. I think Derms would slide into that role nicely. |
|
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
|
|
|
Then you aren't looking objectively.
The Capitals had a better goalie behind them in Holtby, for starters and they also had a top four stronger than the Leafs top four. They had a shutdown pair in Niskanen and Orlov, both play way better in their own zone than the likes of Ceci or Barrie.
The Leafs have D that can skate, pass and score points. But the majority of them can't actually play defense and shutdown the other team. Ceci is garbage and Barrie isn't very good in his own zone either. - JohnFergusonJr
I can often agree with the periphery of what you're saying (a more well rounded team is typically been used used historically), or at least objectively agree with the context of a position (defense wins; what constitutes as D now in the NHL is debatable depending on the officiating & series, but that's another discussion). So I get the conversation.
I can't really agree with this. Well. Let me put it this way: Orlov has moments, and is a tough player. But he's pretty meh. Niskanen is not very good in my opinion. I don't think that's a particularly effective shut-down pairing. Are they ostensibly better than pretty much any pairing with Ceci on it? Probably.
But given that I don't think the Caps really had much of a shut down pairing either, it's like arguing who has the finer quality of garbage.
Arguing that Barrie isn't good in his end is fine, but Carlson sucks back there, too. All teams have their weaknesses. I'd like the Leafs to have a "the man" back there as well, but I don't see it happening. |
|
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Joined: 10.20.2014
|
|
|
Shore showed us nothing, times up.
Bracco isn't what the Leafs need right now, they need a big body that can contribute. - bobbyisno1
Depends.
I haven’t seen what the 2nd PP is like. We could need Bracco there.
There’s just one spot(2 until Hyman comes back) and a lot of competition. Plus I think we still see another signing or PTO. |
|
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
|
|
|
Babcock was using Muzz against top competition late in the season and playoffs. He did a fantastic job.
Rielly was used against secondary competition and more O zone starts so he could score more. I think Derms would slide into that role nicely. - Santo_44
Chinese Knock-off UG says Muzzin is overrated. Because reasons. |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Depends.
I haven’t seen what the 2nd PP is like. We could need Bracco there.
There’s just one spot(2 until Hyman comes back) and a lot of competition. Plus I think we still see another signing or PTO. - Santo_44
Shore is a son of a friend but I don't see it and we really don't need another small forward.
Marchment has size heart and skill if he doesn't get a shot there's something wrong. |
|
Bob_Zuruncle
|
|
|
Location: CEO Mark Porter, NJ Joined: 04.21.2006
|
|
|
How do you know this? - Santo_44
how's it going ug? here's the answer you're looking for.
|
|
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
|
|
|
I can often agree with the periphery of what you're saying (a more well rounded team is typically been used used historically), or at least objectively agree with the context of a position (defense wins; what constitutes as D now in the NHL is debatable depending on the officiating & series, but that's another discussion). So I get the conversation.
I can't really agree with this. Well. Let me put it this way: Orlov has moments, and is a tough player. But he's pretty meh. Niskanen is not very good in my opinion. I don't think that's a particularly effective shut-down pairing. Are they ostensibly better than pretty much any pairing with Ceci on it? Probably.
But given that I don't think the Caps really had much of a shut down pairing either, it's like arguing who has the finer quality of garbage.
Arguing that Barrie isn't good in his end is fine, but Carlson sucks back there, too. All teams have their weaknesses. I'd like the Leafs to have a "the man" back there as well, but I don't see it happening. - Monkeypunk
If you compared the Caps defense to the Blues defense, the Blues defense is way, way better. Was the Caps defense amazing? No. But they were just good enough to get the job done considering who they had in front of them and who they had behind them.
The same can't be said about the Leafs. The Caps had a defense that would bend but not break. The Leafs have a defense that can and most likely will break. And the Leafs don't have the luxury of the (possibly) greatest goal scorer of all-time in front of them or the absolute best goalie behind them either.
Maybe if they took some weight off Andersen's shoulders (fewer games, better back-up etc.) then maybe he could make up enough of the difference. But they don't appear to be willing to do that this year. |
|
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Joined: 10.20.2014
|
|
|
how's it going ug? here's the answer you're looking for.
- Bob_Zuruncle
Huh?
So he had Leaf blankets? I’m sure a lot of players did.
This doesn't prove anything. |
|
winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
|
|
|
Chinese Knock-off UG says Muzzin is overrated. Because reasons. - Steven_Seagull
|
|
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Joined: 10.20.2014
|
|
|
Chinese Knock-off UG says Muzzin is overrated. Because reasons. - Steven_Seagull
(frank) I know
All I see is he elevates everyone’s game.
Even Z somehow. |
|
Bob_Zuruncle
|
|
|
Location: CEO Mark Porter, NJ Joined: 04.21.2006
|
|
|
Huh?
So he had Leaf blankets? I’m sure a lot of players did.
This doesn't prove anything. - Santo_44
right...keep telling yourself that. |
|
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
|
|
|
dubas is a retard, i have no faith in him. to date he has done nothing for this team aside from acquire jake muzzin and 1 year of barrie in exchange for 3 years of kadri. leafs ownership was targeting tavares since before he was drafted, so i don't even give him credit for that signing. - Bob_Zuruncle
"Dubas was the big reason that he was convinced to come to Toronto"- Literally everyone involved with it
"Nuh uh!"- Your stupid ass
|
|
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
|
|
|
He's ready and he's tough as nails, might be a liitle slow but who cares it's the third line. - bobbyisno1
Biggest factor against him is that he keeps getting injured. Really hurt his development.
I really like the way he plays when healthy. |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
The Leafs really need a heavy 3rd line to go up against Bostons 1st line. |
|
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
|
|
|
"Dubas was the big reason that he was convinced to come to Toronto"- Literally everyone involved with it
"Nuh uh!"- Your stupid ass
- GreatGigInTheSky
|
|
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Joined: 10.20.2014
|
|
|
right...keep telling yourself that. - Bob_Zuruncle
Why does this prove anything?
I’m actually curious.
|
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Biggest factor against him is that he keeps getting injured. Really hurt his development.
I really like the way he plays when healthy. - GreatGigInTheSky
What? i'm a talking about Marchment here.
Can't remember 1 injury. |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Biggest factor against him is that he keeps getting injured. Really hurt his development.
I really like the way he plays when healthy. - GreatGigInTheSky
Every game i've been to, he's been in the line up. |
|
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
|
|
|
The Leafs really need a heavy 3rd line to go up against Bostons 1st line. - bobbyisno1
Moore-Kerfoot-Kapanen
A little small, but fast and tenacious as (frank). Put Marchment on the 4th with the Russian and Spezz-daddy. |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Biggest factor against him is that he keeps getting injured. Really hurt his development.
I really like the way he plays when healthy. - GreatGigInTheSky
Plus i can get the box in Belleville if anybody wants to go. |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Moore-Kerfoot-Kapanen
A little small, but fast and tenacious as (frank). Put Marchment on the 4th with the Russian and Spezz-daddy. - Steven_Seagull
Kerfoot is not small and I want to see Marchment on the left side.
He's not small either. |
|