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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
Barrie at 6 is worth it, Barrie at 8? let someone else pay it.
- bobbyisno1


As Adam says, let's see how he plays with our style.

If you look at Barrie's numbers over the past three years, he's 9th in points.

$8m would put him at a cap hit of around 9.6%, which throws him into the territory of Keith, Seabrook, Vlasic, Giordano and Shattenkirk. It would put him below Carlson, Ekblad, Pietrangelo, OEL, Burns, Karlsson, Letang, Suter, Subban, Weber, Doughty . . . and above Yandle, Fowler, McDonaugh, Niskanen . . .

Realistically, based on those comparables, $8m is probably right where he belongs. Term and fit will be the principal questions.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
If I told you what I would love to do with lowlifes like him, I'd be permabanned
- 21peter

If you decide to go ahead and do it anyways, give me a 5 minute warning so I can go and make some popcorn first. Thanks Petesies
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
If I told you what I would love to do with lowlifes like him, I'd be permabanned
- 21peter

win-win

shoot away
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
Ah crap, back to hockey talk eh?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
win-win

shoot away

- daeth

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
Ah crap, back to hockey talk eh?
- Fakepartofme

lets talk about the game of cribbage

anyone every get a 29 hand?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
lets talk about the game of cribbage

anyone every get a 29 hand?

- daeth

Daeth do you rock battlefield on a console or what?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ah crap, back to hockey talk eh?
- Fakepartofme


Yeah, this is the all the UFAs in 2020 are leaving or too expensive portion of the conversation.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
Yeah, this is the all the UFAs in 2020 are leaving or too expensive portion of the conversation.
- Monkeypunk

I'm here for the offer sheets
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
I'm here for the offer sheets
- RickJames77


Too bad McAvoy can't be sheeted. He'd have all the sheets!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
lets talk about the game of cribbage

anyone every get a 29 hand?

- daeth


Last time I played cribbage I was up at my sister-in-law's cottage. There were shots.
I was so drunk I could barely see the cards. I most certainly could not add to 15.

Fortunately, neither could my opponent.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
I'm here for the offer sheets
- RickJames77

I notice all the pundits have gone deathly silent now that sheetgeddon doesn't seem to be happening.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
I notice all the pundits have gone deathly silent now that sheetgeddon doesn't seem to be happening.
- AdamFrench


Easier to just act like it never happened that they didn't discuss it every.single.day. for weeks on end.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
Maybe we could pump and dump Ceci at the deadline for a better return. It worked for my ex girlfriend.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
I notice all the pundits have gone deathly silent now that sheetgeddon doesn't seem to be happening.
- AdamFrench


In that 31 thoughts Podcast, I believe, there was speculation that teams are going to wait until after the start of the season so the Leafs can't use the 10% overage cushion. That was either Friedman or Marek who said that one.

I mean. That one doesn't make any sense for anyone, so it must be true.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:06 PM ET
Daeth do you rock battlefield on a console or what?
- RickJames77

i have it on console and pc
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
Last time I played cribbage I was up at my sister-in-law's cottage. There were shots.
I was so drunk I could barely see the cards. I most certainly could not add to 15.

Fortunately, neither could my opponent.

- Monkeypunk

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
As Adam says, let's see how he plays with our style.

If you look at Barrie's numbers over the past three years, he's 9th in points.

$8m would put him at a cap hit of around 9.6%, which throws him into the territory of Keith, Seabrook, Vlasic, Giordano and Shattenkirk. It would put him below Carlson, Ekblad, Pietrangelo, OEL, Burns, Karlsson, Letang, Suter, Subban, Weber, Doughty . . . and above Yandle, Fowler, McDonaugh, Niskanen . . .

Realistically, based on those comparables, $8m is probably right where he belongs. Term and fit will be the principal questions.

- Monkeypunk


Barrie's age will play a part in lowering the ask. He'll be 29 when he starts that next contract.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
Maybe we could pump and dump Ceci at the deadline for a better return. It worked for my ex girlfriend.
- leafsfann

Just need to hope Pierre McGuire becomes a GM somewhere. He thinks Ceci can develop into a perfect #2. Now #2 the poo or player...hard to tell what he was getting at.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
Barrie's age will play a part in lowering the ask. He'll be 29 when he starts that next contract.
- The Law

anything over 5 years at that age is pretty scary

might be a deal breaker
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
Barrie's age will play a part in lowering the ask. He'll be 29 when he starts that next contract.
- The Law

I doubt he'd get a 7-8 year deal, have to think Dubas would give him a 2-3 yr deal max, if Barrie wants to stay here
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
Just need to hope Pierre McGuire becomes a GM somewhere. He thinks Ceci can develop into a perfect #2. Now #2 the poo or player...hard to tell what he was getting at.
- AdamFrench


That guy isn't getting a GM job anywhere. All the owners know better. (Surprisingly)
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
That guy isn't getting a GM job anywhere. All the owners know better. (Surprisingly)
- Aaron_85


That guy is not getting any NHL job anywhere, ever.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
anything over 5 years at that age is pretty scary

might be a deal breaker

- daeth


Presuming that's he a good fit here, and plays this year at the same level he has over the past two years - would you go 8x5 taking him to 34? Term on UFA is such a sticky area.

If he fit here, and played up to expectation, I'd probably consider that - I find that 33/34 area is where players typically start to have steeper decline.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
anything over 5 years at that age is pretty scary

might be a deal breaker

- daeth


And I think it's a deep year (so far) for UFA d'men.
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