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Jul 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
If you ever look at the curve grading on a player's performance graph, there is a noticeable decline that does start around 30, usually plateau's for a couple of years, and gradually goes down again - but significantly so again around 35. The one thing that is common is that there's an uptick somewhere around 32/33.
I think it's this type of situation: The way you worked out in your 20s was hard, but after 30 it requires more effort, more attention to your diet, and more focus to get your body to where it needs to be. It requires . . .more. And that's not easy to give. But I think athletes often find a way to get there, but it's just not sustainable because every year, it's that much harder to keep your body in that shape.
So I wouldn't be surprised if Neal can find some reserves in the tank, but I'd still expect 3 of those 4 years to be pretty awful. - Monkeypunk
Here is the thing....I think once a player waives his NMC it’s void for the rest of the contract....I could be wrong but I think if it’s waived once it’s gone for good - RatedR80
From my understanding the team can say "we arent honouring" OR they can still allow it. So its dependent on the deal.
Or maybe the exanpsion doesnt care and only cares about the originally deal. I'm speculating mostly.
matthews signed a deal no problem, nylander and marner have been pains in the ass. grow some balls dubas, there are plenty of comparable players in the league and some of them are just a trade away.
matthews signed a deal no problem, nylander and marner have been pains in the ass. grow some balls dubas, there are plenty of comparable players in the league and some of them are just a trade away. - Bob_Zuruncle
Why would you trade Marner? Dubas is the only GM that's been able to sign a top RFA in Matthews.
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Jul 19 @ 9:40 PM ET
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That is absolutely the typical curve.
Again, because I'm this sort of dork, I had been pulling out the performance (using PS as the guide) of guys who had been elite performers and had recently retired, or were on the verge of retiring. So I had looked at Alfredsson, the Sedins, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Thornton, Marleau and so on. I noticed that in these guys, there was often a year where they would "bump" back up somewhere between 30 - 35. But then it would return to norm.
I've never really considered Neal to be anything more than an above average goal scorer; certainly not elite. We'll see, I suppose.
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Jul 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
matthews signed a deal no problem, nylander and marner have been pains in the ass. grow some balls dubas, there are plenty of comparable players in the league and some of them are just a trade away. - Bob_Zuruncle
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Jul 20 @ 12:33 AM ET
That is absolutely the typical curve.
Again, because I'm this sort of dork, I had been pulling out the performance (using PS as the guide) of guys who had been elite performers and had recently retired, or were on the verge of retiring. So I had looked at Alfredsson, the Sedins, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Thornton, Marleau and so on. I noticed that in these guys, there was often a year where they would "bump" back up somewhere between 30 - 35. But then it would return to norm.
I've never really considered Neal to be anything more than an above average goal scorer; certainly not elite. We'll see, I suppose. - Monkeypunk
I hear ya. Top players don't follow the curve.
But guys like neal get worse, not better.
He's played the game hard. The body can only take so much.
