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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:59 PM ET
Younger people love the black/red Sabres jersey. Us old-timers love the royal blue and gold and anything else is (correctly) an abomination. Changing from blue/gold to red/black was stupid to begin with. It's like the Yankees or Red Sox changing color schemes.

Note to younger crowd : Phuckyou you're wrong, and your opinions suck.

End of story.

- kritter65

No, it's not. The Yankees and Red Sox have winning tradition. The Sabres don't and never did.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:02 AM ET
There aren't any Bills in the Bills logo either
- jcragcrumple

Lol, true, but that goes back to the silly choice for the name to begin with. Buffalo Bill, the bison slayer. How do you incorporate that into the logo, the logo would be a cowboy?
Just one letter off from a much better name.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 12:12 AM ET
No, it's not. The Yankees and Red Sox have winning tradition. The Sabres don't and never did.
- buffalofan19




Outside of the last 15 years they don't have much of a winning tradition.
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

Jul 20 @ 12:18 AM ET
Think deeper than that. You're talking about paying Eichel, Dahlin, Laine, and Skinner in the area of $40m. It's a one dimensional group. Can you really win with that?

Saying we have 48m in space is disingenuous. We have 43m, with only 8 players signed. With even modest projections for our RFA's, and filling the roster out with packing peanuts, that number shrinks fast. Add Laine and it shrinks even more. This team already has very real long term cap issues to consider.

- Lunaion



You are an idiot. Nothing is done in a vacuum.

Yep, vacuum is spelled with two ‘u’s. Just saying.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 20 @ 12:28 AM ET
Lol, true, but that goes back to the silly choice for the name to begin with. Buffalo Bill, the bison slayer. How do you incorporate that into the logo, the logo would be a cowboy?
Just one letter off from a much better name.

- Ratsreign


Yeah, the Bills just have a dumb name, I agree. The city is more important than the team name in both cases though. Think of our chants; it's not "let's go sabres," it's "let's go Buffalo."

I'm probably just dumb, but what's the one letter off from a better name?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:45 AM ET
Yeah, the Bills just have a dumb name, I agree. The city is more important than the team name in both cases though. Think of our chants; it's not "let's go sabres," it's "let's go Buffalo."

I'm probably just dumb, but what's the one letter off from a better name?

- jcragcrumple

Yeah but, Let's go Buffalo chant just flows and sounds so much better than any alternative. Name could've been the Bulls. Too late now, but at the time could've been theirs, I imagine. The charging Buffalo logo is (imo, by far) the best in the NFL, even if they do have the worst name. The worst part about it is buffalo Bill got the nickname cuz he shot more buffalo than anyone else.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 20 @ 1:32 AM ET
Yeah but, Let's go Buffalo chant just flows and sounds so much better than any alternative. Name could've been the Bulls. Too late now, but at the time could've been theirs, I imagine. The charging Buffalo logo is (imo, by far) the best in the NFL, even if they do have the worst name. The worst part about it is buffalo Bill got the nickname cuz he shot more buffalo than anyone else.
- Ratsreign


Texans is by far the worst name followed by any bird name other than the falcons , Seahawks, and eagles. Browns get honorable mention because they hit the trifecta- colours, name, and uniform suck donkey schlongs.

Bills ain’t that bad. Sure beats the Ottawa RedBlacks in the cfl.

Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 20 @ 1:37 AM ET
I got the idea of the New Jersey’s when opening the new arena and what not. But to me it didn’t work. When you have one of the better jerseys in the nhl why change it?
- IndianaSabresFan


My problem now is trying to build a sabres memorabilia area in my house. Blue and gold clashes with red and black. It makes it hard to display autographed jerseys or photos. And Hasek became the superstar during the black and red era. Can’t have a Hasek photo beside a Perrault or a Briere.

Anyone else have this problem?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 1:44 AM ET
Texans is by far the worst name followed by any bird name other than the falcons , Seahawks, and eagles. Browns get honorable mention because they hit the trifecta- colours, name, and uniform suck donkey schlongs.

Bills ain’t that bad. Sure beats the Ottawa RedBlacks in the cfl.

- Da_Cashman

I meant "the worst" as in it really kind of sucks, not as in an actual ranking of crappy names like the Browns, especially when you consider why the name buffalo bill even exists. Just saying they could've done better. At least we have great slogan in, The Bills are due!
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:46 AM ET
Texans is by far the worst name followed by any bird name other than the falcons , Seahawks, and eagles. Browns get honorable mention because they hit the trifecta- colours, name, and uniform suck donkey schlongs.

Bills ain’t that bad. Sure beats the Ottawa RedBlacks in the cfl.

- Da_Cashman


Yeah, when your last name is Brown and you name your football team after yourself and then make the primary helmet color orange, like, WTF? Like Cleveland doesn't have enough problems...
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 1:58 AM ET
Yeah, when your last name is Brown and you name your football team after yourself and then make the primary helmet color orange, like, WTF? Like Cleveland doesn't have enough problems...
- Wetbandit1

Too bad his last name wasn't Stehmer
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:14 AM ET
My problem now is trying to build a sabres memorabilia area in my house. Blue and gold clashes with red and black. It makes it hard to display autographed jerseys or photos. And Hasek became the superstar during the black and red era. Can’t have a Hasek photo beside a Perrault or a Briere.

Anyone else have this problem?

- Da_Cashman

The Sabres' arena does.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 20 @ 6:59 AM ET
My problem now is trying to build a sabres memorabilia area in my house. Blue and gold clashes with red and black. It makes it hard to display autographed jerseys or photos. And Hasek became the superstar during the black and red era. Can’t have a Hasek photo beside a Perrault or a Briere.

Anyone else have this problem?

- Da_Cashman



https://www.steinersports...ame-w-blue-over-red-matte


https://www.sportscollect...ed_authentic_c_p21206.htm
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 20 @ 8:10 AM ET
Yeah but, Let's go Buffalo chant just flows and sounds so much better than any alternative. Name could've been the Bulls. Too late now, but at the time could've been theirs, I imagine. The charging Buffalo logo is (imo, by far) the best in the NFL, even if they do have the worst name. The worst part about it is buffalo Bill got the nickname cuz he shot more buffalo than anyone else.
- Ratsreign

Or stuck with the bisons.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 9:22 AM ET
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
Substitute your name for Broads and Laine’s name for ROR and I’ve read this post 250 times already - last season.
- Der Kaiser

Hmm, when has O’Reilly scored 35-45 goals?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
wadr, not sure you can 'severely' overrate a player who scored 110 goals before the age of 21
- Michael Pachla

Because goals in one of a hundred things that we should use to evaluate a player.

Laine scores goals.

He’s also beyond terrible at defense

Beyond bad at driving play

Doesn’t draw penalties

Doesn’t carry the puck well

If we had drafted him that would be one thing

I have 0 interest trading a bunch of assets for him (it’s gonna cost more than Risto)
And paying him anywhere from 8-10 mil
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Laine EV goals have gone from

27 to 24 to 15

Maybe he just isn’t developing and had a unsustainable rookie season
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
Because goals in one of a hundred things that we should use to evaluate a player.

Laine scores goals.

He’s also beyond terrible at defense

Beyond bad at driving play

Doesn’t draw penalties

Doesn’t carry the puck well

If we had drafted him that would be one thing

I have 0 interest trading a bunch of assets for him (it’s gonna cost more than Risto)
And paying him anywhere from 8-10 mil

- sbroads24


Laine is a pure sniper. That is all he’s good for.

Passing. Skating. Defense zone are all not great.

He can just shoot. That’s that.

Atleast hot dog Phil Kessel can skate like the wind and shoot
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
Scoring goals wins games that’s all I care about let the 2 way forwards handle that poop

Laine Is a stud
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
Is the new why player sucks is doesn’t draw enough penalties?

Laine has “bad year” scores 30 goals.


Laine - Yea see his penalties drawn per cow milking was only a .2156784 so he’s just not good.

But hey 21 YO perennial 30 goal scorers are easy to come by. In fact Buffalo already has too many.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
Scoring goals wins games that’s all I care about let the 2 way forwards handle that poop

Laine Is a stud

- gerbe75pts



so was Nylander... Studs always look like studs. Good players are better more than they are not. Average players are 50/50.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
Is the new why player sucks is doesn’t draw enough penalties?

Laine has “bad year” scores 30 goals.


Laine - Yea see his penalties drawn per cow milking was only a .2156784 so he’s just not good.

But hey 21 YO perennial 30 goal scorers are easy to come by. In fact Buffalo already has too many.

- ImThatGuy

Again, if we drafted him that’s another story.

But trading assets and paying him like a franchise player is beyond stupid

I mean, can you point out one thing he’s good at besides shooting?

And for the love of god please don’t compare him to Ovechkin because they aren’t in the same stratosphere
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
so was Nylander... Studs always look like studs. Good players are better more than they are not. Average players are 50/50.
- gordong


He’s only 21 and already has 110 goals in 3 years and if jack can help skinner hit 40 think what he could do for the second best score in the game
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:58 AM ET


Outside of the last 15 years they don't have much of a winning tradition.

- Wetbandit1

They made World Series'. They had Babe Ruth. When you think of baseball's most historic franchises, you think Yankees, Red Sox, and Cubs. When you think of hockey's most historic franchises, Buffalo isn't anywhere near the top of the list.
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