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Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
Yeah, the Bills just have a dumb name, I agree. The city is more important than the team name in both cases though. Think of our chants; it's not "let's go sabres," it's "let's go Buffalo."

I'm probably just dumb, but what's the one letter off from a better name?

- jcragcrumple

Balls
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
He’s only 21 and already has 110 goals in 3 years and if jack can help skinner hit 40 think what he could do for the second best score in the game
- gerbe75pts

We already got Jack his scoring winger

A huge liability defensively is exactly what Eichel doesn’t need
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:06 AM ET
We already got Jack his scoring winger

A huge liability defensively is exactly what Eichel doesn’t need

- sbroads24


We really going to be criticizing the second best score in the NHL ? He’s going to take the Crown away from Ovechkin soon and he will be the top dog for the next six years

If Kovalchuk can learn how to improve his 2 way game I have no doubt Patrick Laine can do that too
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:07 AM ET
We really going to be criticizing the second best score in the NHL ? He’s going to take the Crown away from Ovechkin soon and he will be the top dog for the next six years

If Kovalchuk can learn how to improve his 2 way game I have no doubt Patrick Laine can do that too

- gerbe75pts

Matthews is a better goal scorer than Laine
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
Scoring goals wins games that’s all I care about let the 2 way forwards handle that poop

Laine Is a stud

- gerbe75pts


Laine is extremely one dimensional. That’s the problem

Yes the Sabres need to score more goals. But at what cost?

The Sabres lock up skinner and laine for 20 mill

So 2. One dimensional players making a total of 20 mill a year.

That’s not good cap management
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:09 AM ET
We really going to be criticizing the second best score in the NHL ? He’s going to take the Crown away from Ovechkin soon and he will be the top dog for the next six years

If Kovalchuk can learn how to improve his 2 way game I have no doubt Patrick Laine can do that too

- gerbe75pts

I’m still waiting for one person to tell me what he does well besides his shot

Ovechkin can fly, is a horse on skates, will hit you into oblivion, can actually skate with the puck on his stick, and drives offense.

Laine is not Ovechkin
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
I’m still waiting for one person to tell me what he does well besides his shot

Ovechkin can fly, is a horse on skates, will hit you into oblivion, can actually skate with the puck on his stick, and drives offense.

Laine is not Ovechkin

- sbroads24


You make it sound like Laine = Olofsson. Laine is doing some other things well enough, even if you can't put your finger on it.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
They made World Series'. They had Babe Ruth. When you think of baseball's most historic franchises, you think Yankees, Red Sox, and Cubs. When you think of hockey's most historic franchises, Buffalo isn't anywhere near the top of the list.
- buffalofan19

I'd add St Louis Cardinals, with their success and the list of HOF players through the years, onto that list. While the Cubbies and Red Sox are indeed historic baseball franchises, they were always the historically "cursed" losers.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:15 AM ET
Matthews is a better goal scorer than Laine
- sbroads24




Yeah i’ll disagree I don’t see Matthews winning a rocket trophy

And if Patrick Laine didn’t have that fluke no goal streak he probably have 50 this year
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:16 AM ET
I'd add St Louis Cardinals, with their success and the list of HOF players through the years, onto that list. While the Cubbies and Red Sox are indeed historic baseball franchises, they were always the historically "cursed" losers.
- Ratsreign


Everybody always forgets the Cincinnati Reds.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:17 AM ET


Yeah i’ll disagree I don’t see Matthews winning a rocket trophy

And if Patrick Laine didn’t have that fluke no goal streak he probably have 50 this year

- gerbe75pts

He had 34 goals in 62 games a year ago .

37 in 68 this year

You realize that’s better scoring rate than Laine right?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
Laine is extremely one dimensional. That’s the problem

Yes the Sabres need to score more goals. But at what cost?

The Sabres lock up skinner and laine for 20 mill

So 2. One dimensional players making a total of 20 mill a year.

That’s not good cap management

- Sabretooth9


You act like he can’t improve his D game ? I remember Kovalchuk was dog poop on D and everyone said He wouldn’t work out New Jersey Because of the defensive system but he learned at what age ?
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jul 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
Everybody always forgets the Cincinnati Reds.
- Der Kaiser

The big Red machine in the 70s was one of the best teams ever.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
You make it sound like Laine = Olofsson. Laine is doing some other things well enough, even if you can't put your finger on it.
- Lunaion

Not really though. That’s the problem.

I have no reason to not want Laine on this team other than the fact that he’s gotten worse the two years following his rookie year.

And this year he was legit bad all around
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
Everybody always forgets the Cincinnati Reds.
- Der Kaiser


Not me ! Big Red Machine, baby ! Johnny Bench, George Foster, Joe Morgan, Dave Concepcion, Tony Perez, Ken Griffey Sr., Cesar Geronimo, Pete Rose, all lead by Sparky Anderson....what a team !
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:22 AM ET
He had 34 goals in 62 games a year ago .

37 in 68 this year

You realize that’s better scoring rate than Laine right?

- sbroads24


Patrick Laine Had 20 goals in November and had A weird fluke after he probably would of won the rocket


Who would you take Matthews or Patrick Laine from the circle to score the winner ?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:24 AM ET
Patrick Laine Had 20 goals in November and had A weird fluke after he probably would of won the rocket


Who would you take Matthews or Patrick Laine from the circle to score the winner ?

- gerbe75pts

So the goalposts have moved to a November game on the PP in the circle.

Got it
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:28 AM ET
Matthews is a better goal scorer than Laine
- sbroads24


So is patty kane, Steve stamkos, Nikita Kucherov, there were a lot of posters on here mad as balls that we gave Skinner a “one dementional” winger a 9 million dollar contract. Now we are clamouring to not only give up the assets to get Laine but also turn around and most likely hand him the same contract we just gave Jeff, only Laine is probably more one dementional than Skinner.
If he’s not scoring he’s a liability on the ice, we don’t need more of that.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:30 AM ET
Patrick Laine Had 20 goals in November and had A weird fluke after he probably would of won the rocket


Who would you take Matthews or Patrick Laine from the circle to score the winner ?

- gerbe75pts


Matthews every time, also f the leafs, twice
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
So is patty kane, Steve stamkos, Nikita Kucherov, there were a lot of posters on here mad as balls that we gave Skinner a “one dementional” winger a 9 million dollar contract. Now we are clamouring to not only give up the assets to get Laine but also turn around and most likely hand him the same contract we just gave Jeff, only Laine is probably more one dementional than Skinner.
If he’s not scoring he’s a liability on the ice, we don’t need more of that.

- Sabres1523

And Skinner is a lot better in other areas than Laine.

I honestly wouldn’t call Skinner one dimensional.

He’s feisty, creates a ton of turnovers and penalties and no matter who he’s played with his team is better with him on the ice
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:35 AM ET
Not really though. That’s the problem.

I have no reason to not want Laine on this team other than the fact that he’s gotten worse the two years following his rookie year.

And this year he was legit bad all around

- sbroads24


I've got plenty of reasons to not want Laine on this team, but the idea that he does nothing better than Olofsson is a bridge too far.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
I've got plenty of reasons to not want Laine on this team, but the idea that he does nothing better than Olofsson is a bridge too far.
- Lunaion

If you have to define it as “he does things you just can’t put your finger on”, then that’s more than enough justification to call him extremely over rated
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
Okposo for Lucic would’ve been fun
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
And Skinner is a lot better in other areas than Laine.

I honestly wouldn’t call Skinner one dimensional.

He’s feisty, creates a ton of turnovers and penalties and no matter who he’s played with his team is better with him on the ice

- sbroads24


I just wish Skinner had a bit more playmaking ability. At the end of the day 63 points is 63 points, whether you put a larger emphasis on goals over assists or not.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
If you have to define it as “he does things you just can’t put your finger on”, then that’s more than enough justification to call him extremely over rated
- sbroads24



So you’re saying.....
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