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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
U just made “ the list” 😡
- mr.sir

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
We can debate the wisdom of signing Tavares, or the Matthews contract or giving up a first to get away from the Marleau final year...

It find it interesting that the Leafs now have almost no horrible contracts. There *may* be slight overpayments but they are for young payers.

The only contract you could seriously question is Ceci. I still think that is a head-scratcher. Why not let him go to arbitration, let him walk away, sign Marner, and pick up a Dman off the scrap heap. At the very least sign him to bonus heavy contract to make a trade somewhat easier.

The only answer is that the Leafs appear to think Ceci offers real value at 4.5. I have no idea what they are basing that on. By anything I have seen he is no better than the September dumpster dive-ees.

So Dubas gets full marks for fixing an enormous problem. It looks like he was just one big question mark away from pretty much a perfect off-season

so far.

- Aetherial


I think that:

1. Dubas et al actually see something in Ceci amidst the Sens tire fire of a team; he could be right and a 1-year deal is perfect to find out.

2. We need somebody to play minutes and if anything, Ceci chewed up hard minutes in OTT; I don't know of any of RHD in the UFA scrap heap that can still do that and:
a) don't want term (0);
b) have averaged 20 minutes of TOI (0)


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
I think that:

1. Dubas et al actually see something in Ceci amidst the Sens tire fire of a team; he could be right and a 1-year deal is perfect to find out.

2. We need somebody to play minutes and if anything, Ceci chewed up hard minutes in OTT; I don't know of any of RHD in the UFA scrap heap that can still do that and:
a) don't want term (0);
b) have averaged 20 minutes of TOI (0)

- gravyface


A team gave Hainsey another chance at 3.5, Ceci doesn't look too bad at 4.5 for 1 year.

( I thought Hainsey played "ok" last year )
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
I think that:

1. Dubas et al actually see something in Ceci amidst the Sens tire fire of a team; he could be right and a 1-year deal is perfect to find out.

2. We need somebody to play minutes and if anything, Ceci chewed up hard minutes in OTT; I don't know of any of RHD in the UFA scrap heap that can still do that and:
a) don't want term (0);
b) have averaged 20 minutes of TOI (0)

- gravyface


excellent post.

wouldn't have minded Schenn back battling the Holls and Marancins for a final spot.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
A team gave Hainsey another chance at 3.5, Ceci doesn't look too bad at 4.5 for 1 year.

( I thought Hainsey played "ok" last year )

- Garnie


Hainsey playing on his strong side last year was solid if unspectacular, but we had to take Babs toys away or Hainsey would've been up with Rielly again.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 11:14 AM ET
Hainsey playing on his strong side last year was solid if unspectacular, but we had to take Babs toys away or Hainsey would've been up with Rielly again.
- gravyface


Worked fine during the reg season, not sure I'll lay all the blame on Hainsey for the playoffs...but whatever works.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 20 @ 11:30 AM ET
I'm guessing he said "Auston still got some baby fat on him, and around the :45 sec mark of his shift he's huffing and puffing on the way to the bench"
- Garnie

Matthews is out of shape now
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jul 20 @ 11:35 AM ET
I think there's 2 reasons for it.

1) They probably think that Cody is better than what he's been in Ottawa, so they have no problem giving him one year to see if they're correct.

2) They gave him that much because it gets the CAP exactly where they want it to be to get Marner in at the number he should be at (or close to).

That's how I see it at least.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Looking forward to see what Ceci can provide. Most suspect he has been misplayed in Ottawa, which we will soon see this season. If he has a really good year, then our next problem is " can we sign him on the cheap ?"
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think there's 2 reasons for it.

1) They probably think that Ceci is better than what he's been in Ottawa, so they have no problem giving him one year to see if they're correct.

2) They gave him that much because it gets the CAP exactly where they want it to be to get Marner in at the number he should be at (or close to).

That's how I see it at least.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Imagine if that is totally the reason they did it, to box Marner in, Ceci would be the luckiest guy lol. MLSE just throws poops out money.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:00 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Gritt...tatus/1152598393270820864

(frank)ing Gritty.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 12:22 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Gritt...tatus/1152598393270820864

(frank)ing Gritty.

- GreatGigInTheSky

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:23 PM ET
We can debate the wisdom of signing Tavares, or the Matthews contract or giving up a first to get away from the Marleau final year...

It find it interesting that the Leafs now have almost no horrible contracts. There *may* be slight overpayments but they are for young payers.

The only contract you could seriously question is Ceci. I still think that is a head-scratcher. Why not let him go to arbitration, let him walk away, sign Marner, and pick up a Dman off the scrap heap. At the very least sign him to bonus heavy contract to make a trade somewhat easier.

The only answer is that the Leafs appear to think Ceci offers real value at 4.5. I have no idea what they are basing that on. By anything I have seen he is no better than the September dumpster dive-ees.

So Dubas gets full marks for fixing an enormous problem. It looks like he was just one big question mark away from pretty much a perfect off-season

so far.

- Aetherial



It is what it is.

The contract Ceci's 1 year or less vs 5 years with Zaitsev


The backup position hans't really been addressed either. 5park5 and Hutchinson
Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:32 PM ET
Or Rasp.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Or Dzingle
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 20 @ 12:49 PM ET
It is what it is.

The contract Ceci's 1 year or less vs 5 years with Zaitsev


The backup position hans't really been addressed either. 5park5 and Hutchinson

- dmnted


Yeah the thing about some of the difficult decisions they've had to make, like losing a first, Brown, trading Kadri and so on is on the other side of the ledger is The Snake, which makes it worth it.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:50 PM ET

- gergeswillems


Mrs. Wheeler is fine.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
Or Dzingle
- Barb34


Snoz



Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

Jul 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
Snoz




- GreatGigInTheSky

PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Jul 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
TOI/GP

#29 Auston Matthews

What are you talking about??????????

He's a 1:37 behind Mackinnon at #5, talk about reaching for excuses, and Mackinnon had no one close to John Tavares on his team to share ice with.

- Garnie

Where are you getting these numbers from?

If you're talking about the postseason Matthews doesn't crack the top 80 and is about 4 minutes behind Mackinnon.

Regular season his TOI numbers are even lower.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
Matthews is out of shape now
- ClarksonDavid


He’ll be ready for the season
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
Where are you getting these numbers from?

If you're talking about the postseason Matthews doesn't crack the top 80 and is about 4 minutes behind Mackinnon.

Regular season his TOI numbers are even lower.

- PlatosRepucklic


reg season
5v5 toi/gm he’s 29th

Maybe I’m looking on the wrong site, what site are you using?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
Where are you getting these numbers from?

If you're talking about the postseason Matthews doesn't crack the top 80 and is about 4 minutes behind Mackinnon.

Regular season his TOI numbers are even lower.

- PlatosRepucklic


5v5 playoffs he’s 11th
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
Or Dzingle
- Barb34

If Barrie makes a nice rush with the puck, can we call him dangle Barrie?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:00 PM ET
Matthews is the most underused star in the NHL,. It's not even debatable. His usage is a joke.

Babcock is costing us by not using his best players. Patrick Marneau's usage in the playoffs was terrible. "Patty will find the fountain of youth". Get the (frank) out of here, Mike.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:03 PM ET
Matthews is the most underused star in the NHL,. It's not even debatable. His usage is a joke.

Babcock is costing us by not using his best players. Patrick Marneau's usage in the playoffs was terrible. "Patty will find the fountain of youth". Get the (frank) out of here, Mike.

- RogerRoeper


Still waiting for your link to him not being in the top 80
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:05 PM ET
Matthews is the most underused star in the NHL,. It's not even debatable. His usage is a joke.

Babcock is costing us by not using his best players. Patrick Marneau's usage in the playoffs was terrible. "Patty will find the fountain of youth". Get the (frank) out of here, Mike.

- RogerRoeper

29th 5v5 forward reg season

11th in the playoffs

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