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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 21 @ 9:53 PM ET
I don't expect to be alive in 2065
- homiedclown





Well me neither since I’ll be 86.


And if I am, I probably won’t know who I am.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 9:58 PM ET
You're out of your mind. Rodrigues had 4 power play points and 25 even strength/short handed points this year. Neither are goal scorers, but Rodrigues can make a pass. Zemgus has hands of stone and is lost in the offensive zone
- jcragcrumple

Erod P/60 - 1.39
Girgs - 1.22

The difference is minuscule

The idea that Erod needs to be locked up long term makes about as much sense as locking up 22 or 28 long term.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 21 @ 10:01 PM ET
Erod P/60 - 1.39
Girgs - 1.22

The difference is minuscule

The idea that Erod needs to be locked up long term makes about as much sense as locking up 22 or 28 long term.

- sbroads24


I disagree. If Mittelstadt gets hurt, I'd rather have Erod to play 2C than Larry or Girgs. As long as he doesn't play with those two or Sobotka, his offensive numbers will improve
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:03 PM ET
I disagree. If Mittelstadt gets hurt, I'd rather have Erod to play 2C than Larry or Girgs. As long as he doesn't play with those two or Sobotka, his offensive numbers will improve
- jcragcrumple


Tage Thompson is the only Sabre who’s play was diminished by those line mates.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:03 PM ET
I disagree. If Mittelstadt gets hurt, I'd rather have Erod to play 2C than Larry or Girgs. As long as he doesn't play with those two or Sobotka, his offensive numbers will improve
- jcragcrumple

None of the three belong anywhere near the top 6

Of course. Because that’s the same for any player on this team
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:05 PM ET
Tage Thompson is the only Sabre who’s play was diminished by those line mates.
- Der Kaiser

Rodrigues managed one more 5 on 5 goal than Thompson in 200 more minutes

Like I said. They’re all offensively inept for the most part
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 21 @ 10:07 PM ET
Erod P/60 - 1.39
Girgs - 1.22

The difference is minuscule

The idea that Erod needs to be locked up long term makes about as much sense as locking up 22 or 28 long term.

- sbroads24


Hey so assists do matter now ?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
Rodrigues managed one more 5 on 5 goal than Thompson in 200 more minutes

Like I said. They’re all offensively inept for the most part

- sbroads24


You're using goal scoring and offense interchangeably, which they are not.

Vesey and Rodrigues will be 2/3rds of a competent 3rd line this year
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:12 PM ET
I disagree. If Mittelstadt gets hurt, I'd rather have Erod to play 2C than Larry or Girgs. As long as he doesn't play with those two or Sobotka, his offensive numbers will improve
- jcragcrumple

None of them should be the 2nd line center under any circumstance. None of them are that great.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:13 PM ET
You're using goal scoring and offense interchangeably, which they are not.

Vesey and Rodrigues will be 2/3rds of a competent 3rd line this year

- jcragcrumple

No I’m using their overall production. Not just goals

They’re production rates are low end 3rd line/4th line production

Being the best of a bad bunch isn’t a reason to lock someone up long term.

I hope he stays for a year or two. Max though.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:14 PM ET
None of them should be the 2nd line center under any circumstance. None of them are that great.
- Mentalorgasm5

They shouldn’t be 3rd liners either, really

And I respect Erod and Larsson have good underlying numbers.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 21 @ 10:16 PM ET
None of them should be the 2nd line center under any circumstance. None of them are that great.
- Mentalorgasm5


That's fine, but if mitts gets hurt, or if Eichel gets hurt and Mittelstadt takes his place, would you rather have Erod or Girgs there centering the 2nd line?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:16 PM ET
They shouldn’t be 3rd liners either, really

And I respect Erod and Larsson have good underlying numbers.

- sbroads24

Both should be on the 4th.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:17 PM ET
That's fine, but if mitts gets hurt, or if Eichel gets hurt and Mittelstadt takes his place, would you rather have Erod or Girgs there centering the 2nd line?
- jcragcrumple

None, we are boned if that happens, and would be telling that botts is once again unprepared.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:21 PM ET
Both should be on the 4th.
- Mentalorgasm5

And it would be a good 4th line.

I’m actually fine with Estud on the 3rd line for this year if he plays with some shooting talent.

But in 20-21 he needs to be a 4th liner/13th forward IMO

It’s the fantasy land where he’s good offensively that I choose not to live in
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:23 PM ET
You're out of your mind. Rodrigues had 4 power play points and 25 even strength/short handed points this year. Neither are goal scorers, but Rodrigues can make a pass. Zemgus has hands of stone and is lost in the offensive zone
- jcragcrumple


I bet he eats P'Zone's too.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:29 PM ET
And it would be a good 4th line.

I’m actually fine with Estud on the 3rd line for this year if he plays with some shooting talent.

But in 20-21 he needs to be a 4th liner/13th forward IMO

It’s the fantasy land where he’s good offensively that I choose not to live in

- sbroads24

Its why we really need two more top 6 forwards.

Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Johansson TBD TBD
Vesey Mitts Sheary
Larsson Erod Okposo

Hides
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:40 PM ET


It’s the fantasy land where he’s good offensively that I choose not to live in

- sbroads24

better then living in Lockport
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:42 PM ET
Its why we really need two more top 6 forwards.

Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Johansson TBD TBD
Vesey Mitts Sheary
Larsson Erod Okposo

Hides

- Mentalorgasm5

olofsson is second liner potential

johansson IMO is not


but if casey is ready, that changes everything

skinner-eichel-cozens
olofsson-casey-reinhart
vesey-e-rod-johansson
sheary-larsson/sobotka-girgens/okposo

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:43 PM ET
Well me neither since I’ll be 86.


And if I am, I probably won’t know who I am.

- dadeadhead

I saw a lot of people at the stones concert that didn't know where they were friday
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:47 PM ET
And it would be a good 4th line.

I’m actually fine with Estud on the 3rd line for this year if he plays with some shooting talent.

But in 20-21 he needs to be a 4th liner/13th forward IMO

It’s the fantasy land where he’s good offensively that I choose not to live in

- sbroads24



Good offensively and better than Girgensons has a wide gulf between them.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:48 PM ET
Good offensively and better than Girgensons has a wide gulf between them.
- Wetbandit1

it's so wide tage might be able to put a shot between the posts

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:51 PM ET
Good offensively and better than Girgensons has a wide gulf between them.
- Wetbandit1

Ain’t really wide though. That’s the point

Their scoring rates aren’t that different

One plays high end third line minutes and PP time right now

And yes, I’d take Erod over Girgensons

My point is one shouldn’t be put in the “lock up long term” tier while we talk about waiving the other one.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 21 @ 10:57 PM ET
What is your obsession with how guys start seasons? All that matters is where they end up.
- Wetbandit1



False

Our team has started each season poorly recently.

We need a good start to keep any hope of the playoffs past Christmas.

Where the player "ends up" is important, but not all that matters
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:00 PM ET
False

Our team has started each season poorly recently.

We need a good start to keep any hope of the playoffs past Christmas.


Where the player "ends up" is important, but not all that matters

- Boss34



Were they not in first place in the league at Thanksgiving?
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