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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:08 PM ET
Were they not in first place in the league at Thanksgiving?
- Wetbandit1



How about Christmas?

This team needs to start hot. Disagree if you want.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:11 PM ET
How about Christmas?

This team needs to start hot. Disagree if you want.

- Boss34


They started hot, they had a 10 game win streak. How much hotter of a start do you want? Halfway through the season is no longer "the start". The start is 15-20 games max.

Plus, this isn't about the team, it's about individual players.

Edit: They were on a 104 point pace at Christmas and had played 37 games.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:33 PM ET
Let me know when this team is in a place where I care about the bottom 4 players on this team.
- dadeadhead


What are you talking about he’s our 2nd line center
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:38 PM ET
They started hot, they had a 10 game win streak. How much hotter of a start do you want? Halfway through the season is no longer "the start". The start is 15-20 games max.

Plus, this isn't about the team, it's about individual players.

Edit: They were on a 104 point pace at Christmas and had played 37 games.

- Wetbandit1


Sabres started 7-8 last season.
Within your "15-20" game parameter

Finished with 2 wins in a row.

Is it really how you finish?

Sam and erod started slow, not sure what you're arguing?

Hope both players start out on fire. That would be better right?


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 11:39 PM ET
https://twitter.com/nypos.../1152297275244339200?s=21
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 21 @ 11:42 PM ET
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1152297275244339200?s=21
- sbroads24



Lock












Port
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:45 PM ET
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1152297275244339200?s=21
- sbroads24


Beauty and the beast 4 real
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:47 PM ET
Now I’m seeing fans put Rodrigues on the first line again



Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 22 @ 12:01 AM ET
Now I’m seeing fans put Rodrigues on the first line again




- gerbe75pts


Remember when they tried that last year? Erod and Thompson just looked dreadful with Eichel.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jul 22 @ 12:05 AM ET
Sabres started 7-8 last season.
Within your "15-20" game parameter

Finished with 2 wins in a row.

Is it really how you finish?

Sam and erod started slow, not sure what you're arguing?

Hope both players start out on fire. That would be better right?

- Boss34


Sure, but starting out "on fire" and then going cold to end the season is worse than starting cold and ending "on fire" if you're making the playoffs.

I'm not the one arguing that they(the team) need to "start fast" They were in 1st place at Thanksgiving. If they finish in the playoffs I don't give a good God damn how they got there. I don't care if they went full opening scene in "The Last Boy Scout".
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 22 @ 12:24 AM ET
Remember when they tried that last year? Erod and Thompson just looked dreadful with Eichel.
- Lunaion


He’s a 4th line player that gets a lot of love for some odd reason

Some think he can be Jack’s “ Kunitz“

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 22 @ 1:10 AM ET
He’s a 4th line player that gets a lot of love for some odd reason

Some think he can be Jack’s “ Kunitz“

- gerbe75pts


It's worse than that. They think he already has been.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
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Jul 22 @ 2:12 AM ET
He’s a 4th line player that gets a lot of love for some odd reason

Some think he can be Jack’s “ Kunitz“

- gerbe75pts



No one thinks that, at least no one here. Even JCrag doesn't think that.
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 22 @ 2:26 AM ET
E-rod at 2AAV x 3 would be a great deal
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 22 @ 7:53 AM ET
E-rod at 2AAV x 3 would be a great deal
- Sabre_Tooth


It would be an even better deal at 2 x $1.75.
By the end of the 2nd year, hopefully E-rod is positioned where a utility knife should be...
as the 13th forward.
Ok, ok. 4C would be acceptable as well.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 22 @ 8:53 AM ET
It would be an even better deal at 2 x $1.75.
By the end of the 2nd year, hopefully E-rod is positioned where a utility knife should be...
as the 13th forward.
Ok, ok. 4C would be acceptable as well.

- IonSabres



It would be an even better deal at 2 x $1.5
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:06 AM ET
It would be an even better deal at 2 x $1.5
- washedup20


Even better if it was 5 x 1.345

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 22 @ 9:10 AM ET
Even better if it was 5 x 1.345
- ImThatGuy


And the beat goes on...
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
If you had to guess, how many points would you think the Ralphie-boy Coaching Staff will add for the Sabres this year. I'm not sure how that could be measured objectively in isolation, especially with the expected turnover on the roster...probably can't, but subjectively we hopefully see it through the eye test.

My guess is about 10+ points, largely attributable to a better D-zone system and commitment via buy-in from the players to execute better.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
Buffalo point projections for the season are 83.5.

That would result in being the 5th worst team in the NHL.

If that happens, does Botts survive?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 22 @ 9:23 AM ET
Buffalo point projections for the season are 83.5.

That would result in being the 5th worst team in the NHL.

If that happens, does Botts survive?

- ImThatGuy


Not sure. (Depends on how ugly it gets) I think he gets 2 years with a new coach that he wanted.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
E-rod at 2AAV x 3 would be a great deal
- Sabre_Tooth


Based on the current market .... it will be slightly above 2 mill a year.

Do I think he’s worth that? Not really. 1.75 seems fair.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 22 @ 9:26 AM ET
Buffalo point projections for the season are 83.5.

That would result in being the 5th worst team in the NHL.

If that happens, does Botts survive?

- ImThatGuy



He doesn't deserve to, if that happens.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
Not sure. (Depends on how ugly it gets) I think he gets 2 years with a new coach that he wanted.
- Sabretooth9


Krueger has a background in management. Don't sleep on him being GM/Interim GM once he gets to know his players if the team sucks
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
Buffalo point projections for the season are 83.5.

That would result in being the 5th worst team in the NHL.

If that happens, does Botts survive?

- ImThatGuy



Yes, think so but it depends on how they look and how the new players perform.
If Vesey, Johansson, Miller and Montour all poop the bed, then no.
If they play reasonably "well" but the known remaining holes in the roster are the primary cause, i.e. 2C, 1RW, 1st RhD, then the expectations for this season will have been met, especially in view of the number of scabs leaving next season.
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