Pionk got $3m a year???
- picklerick

yup two year deal

Pionk got $3m a year???
- picklerick

the GM is either a (frank)ing genius or (frank)ing insane

You are a typical child, I dont agree with you so you throw a tantrum and want me to leave.

You are a very narrow minded person along with a few other posters on this board. The points I make are legit. Your statements of how great this team will be and how we will dominate is nothing but hot air! You are HOPING all these players we have drafted and acquired pan out. Nothing is guaranteed. All of these players you say will dominate and are so awesome have yet to play a minute of NHL hockey. I remember Hugh Jessiman. Do you???

Panarin is a good player, not great, Im sorry but I disagree with you. He has finished 17th, 20th 11th and 9th in scoring the last 4 yrs. The 9th and 11th he was playing with Patrick Kane. He is now getting paid like a great player at 11.6 mill and at 28yo when the season starts, on the wrong side of the age bar for this team.

Now the Rangers who had bad contracts to begin with are in cap hell. Posters who want to sell off assets at pennies on the dollar I guess dont get it. I see posts at trading guys for 5th round picks. Do you not think teams would die for these players if all we wanted was a 5th round pick?? 5th round picks that make the NHL is at like 8 percent. Id take Names or Fast or Strome for a 5th round pick any day. Gorton Im sure has had offers but he isnt moving these players for nothing. Im sure Gorton is exploring all routes and is hoping something materializes. Asie to signing Pabarin, I think he has done a good job with restocking the franchise. Hopefully it will pay off.

Im a Ranger fa, will always be but Im a realist. Sorry to disappoint you!!
- Brukie

So you’d rather have Nams/Smith/Shatty on the team over Panarin?

So you’d rather have Nams/Smith/Shatty on the team over Panarin?
- Bean_Dip

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

No doubt, and that is pretty much the only thing to talk about at this point. I am kind of not worried about this at all. I am pretty confident that it will work out.
- Pete V

Buncha hoopla over nothin’! Dog days of summer will do that to the blog!

I remember some of the ridiculousness that happened in years past. This is no different!

Pionk got $3m a year???
- picklerick

The price for ADA just went up

So you’d rather have Nams/Smith/Shatty on the team over Panarin?
- Bean_Dip

Correct, yes

Correct, yes
- eichiefs9

Of course you would love them to stay.

Of course you would love them to stay.
- JRR1285

- eichiefs9

I can't wait until the Islanders have this problem and Lee is a part of it. (In 2 years)


Edit:

So Barzal, looking at 10+?

I can't wait until the Islanders have this problem and Lee is a part of it. (In 2 years)


Edit:

So Barzal, looking at 10+?
- JRR1285

This is a big year for him, great rookie season but had Tavares as “the guy”. Last year he had a good season, 62 points but not a great one.

This is a big year for him, great rookie season but had Tavares as “the guy”. Last year he had a good season, 62 points but not a great one.
- nyrangers9479

The real problem for the islanders is that as soon as a higher echelon player is no longer required to be there they get the hell outta dodge.

The real problem for the islanders is that as soon as a higher echelon player is no longer required to be there they get the hell outta dodge.
- blueshirts_fan

i think all that changes once belmont happens.

i think all that changes once belmont happens.
- NYRangers1124

Time will tell

Of course you would love them to stay.
- JRR1285

I got those dinner plates banned at Macy's for you

I got those dinner plates banned at Macy's for you
- mdw7413

TF are you talking about?

As per your words Jan, of possibly relieving cap space through trades with "a few teams having cap room like Ottawa", Gorton has already attempted that means without success. Besides being unwilling to aid their needs, teams are also setting high demands with sweetener(s) in draft picks &/or prospects to be also included, whether it's to acquire either Shatty, Smith, or Namestnikov, or even lately Kreider due to his expiring contract.

As for Ottawa, I first revealed here the word of long time Senators writer, Bruce Garrioch of "The Ottawa Sun," on a late June morning just prior to the Draft on your blog entitled, "Hockey Buzz Mock Draft: Kings Pick, Fla/CMB Trade, Blue Jackets Pick." Garrioch stated, "the Senators are willing to trade for a veteran player's contract from a team in cap trouble, provided that a sweetener is added by that club, in either a 1st Round Pick or a TOP prospect."

Others are likely also demanding similar higher level sweetener(s) in nature from Gorton than only a mid round pick to take on one of their bad contracts, which has given him minimal to zero flexibility in completing a trade of the obvious three. Furthermore, teams are aware of the possibility of acquiring any of the three soon without even having to part with a single asset.

In addition, according to Elliotte Friedman back then, Kreider had drawn interest from "a lot of teams", starting in chief with the Avs and Bruins. In fact, the Rangers came close to trading Kreider to Colorado for their 16th Overall Pick in the Draft, (in which the Avs later selected Alex Newhook), as per word also by Friedman reported on June 27th in the following source below.

www.blueshirtbanter.com/2...nhl-trade-rumors-colorado

And this was all prior to the Rangers not being the favorite to land Panarin.

So you’d rather have Nams/Smith/Shatty on the team over Panarin?

OMG Panarin isnt the right player for this team now. We are in the middle of a rebuild,I doubt we will be cup contending in a few years and that will take Panarin till the 31-32 age, will he be the same player? I hope so. I want the Rangers to win also. But im pessimistic about it. We have a bunch of teenagers who have never played a minute of NHL hockey, so we will see soon enough.

OMG Panarin isnt the right player for this team now. We are in the middle of a rebuild,I doubt we will be cup contending in a few years and that will take Panarin till the 31-32 age, will he be the same player? I hope so. I want the Rangers to win also. But im pessimistic about it. We have a bunch of teenagers who have never played a minute of NHL hockey, so we will see soon enough.
- Brukie

Nothing is guaranteed, but taking a chance on him being a great player for at least the next five years is something most don't have a problem with taking.

NYR will need one more season to finish up on this rebuild.....2 yrs. tops. He a great player and leader, and having him is worth it. Would it be great if this happened next off season? Sure, but who else will be available that equals him? No one...which is why Gorton acted.

Not disrespecting you, but you seem to feel that every decision is made in a bubble and that there aren't 31 other teams out there influencing what NYR does. Take what you want when you can get it,. There isn't only ONE way where sustained success is viable.

Rangers were always going to Rangers. They always have to go after the star player and to try and win the offseason. Not really sure any of it makes any sense in terms of what the organization says they are trying to do.

And yet, I would trade our offseason for your offseason in a second. I also don’t have any clue what the Flyers are trying to accomplish either.

Nothing is guaranteed, but taking a chance on him being a great player for at least the next five years is something most don't have a problem with taking.

NYR will need one more season to finish up on this rebuild.....2 yrs. tops. He a great player and leader, and having him is worth it. Would it be great if this happened next off season? Sure, but who else will be available that equals him? No one...which is why Gorton acted.

Not disrespecting you, but you seem to feel that every decision is made in a bubble and that there aren't 31 other teams out there influencing what NYR does. Take what you want when you can get it,. There isn't only ONE way where sustained success is viable.
- rrentz

To be what? A consistent playoff team, contender, champs?

Other teams are out there trying to improve at the same time. I say there's just as good of a chance you're the worst team in the NYC area in 2 years as you are the best.

I agree with Burkie, timing is everything. You're rebuilding, why sell guys off cheaply or move assets to dump contracts to accommodate a top flight FA winger who likely just had the best season he's ever going to have?

Nothing is guaranteed, but taking a chance on him being a great player for at least the next five years is something most don't have a problem with taking.

NYR will need one more season to finish up on this rebuild.....2 yrs. tops. He a great player and leader, and having him is worth it. Would it be great if this happened next off season? Sure, but who else will be available that equals him? No one...which is why Gorton acted.
- rrentz

Nobody knows who will be available in the coming years. Did anyone guess JT would be available? Nobody guess Pabarin or Bobrobsky would be? Who knew Trouba would be? Zucc, Hayes, Duchene? I mean come on, there will always be someone available.

Im not knocking Panarin, Im knocking the fact that he isnt the type of player we need now, we wont be competing for a Cup anytime soon and his cap hit is hurting us. These are facts that you want to ignore, so be it.

Nobody knows who will be available in the coming years. Did anyone guess JT would be available? Nobody guess Pabarin or Bobrobsky would be? Who knew Trouba would be? Zucc, Hayes, Duchene? I mean come on, there will always be someone available.

Im not knocking Panarin, Im knocking the fact that he isnt the type of player we need now, we wont be competing for a Cup anytime soon and his cap hit is hurting us. These are facts that you want to ignore, so be it.
- Brukie

You have no idea when we’ll be competing for a cup. But I don’t think 2 years from now is out of the question.

You have no idea when we’ll be competing for a cup. But I don’t think 2 years from now is out of the question.
- nyrangers9479

I do, then again i'm a Canucks fan and don't think they'll be competing for the cup in 2 years neither.

I also am not a big fan of the Miller trade nor the Myers signing. I realize we're in a better position to make the playoffs than previously and have some really good young talent but being up to the cap so early in the rebuild is concerning.

To be what? A consistent playoff team, contender, champs?

Other teams are out there trying to improve at the same time. I say there's just as good of a chance you're the worst team in the NYC area in 2 years as you are the best.

I agree with Burkie, timing is everything. You're rebuilding, why sell guys off cheaply or move assets to dump contracts to accommodate a top flight FA winger who likely just had the best season he's ever going to have?
- golfingsince

First, their rebuild was initially accelerated FASTER due to some luck in the Draft Lottery to select Kakko as the #2 Overall Pick, (who could have easily been #1 overall instead), in addition to stealing Trouba at age 25 in a trade with the Jets. That's one reason why they signed Panarin within days later, who is only 2 years older than Trouba, and not in his young 30's as you and Brukie are making him out to be.

Second, the 3 main contracts they are trying to "dump" are all BAD contracts, starting with the 2 years remaining of two d'men at age 30 in Shattenkirk (at $6.65M) and Smith (at $4.35M), along with an overpaid forward and potential UFA next Summer in Namestnikov (at $4M), who by the way is only 1 year younger than Panarin. They cannot find takers for any, despite even willing to retain 50% of either of those 2 d'men's salaries.

So the three they are desperately trying to "sell off" WOULD NOT BE part of their future rebuild within two seasons from now. To help become cap compliant FOR THIS SEASON ONLY, they did attempt to trade another potential UFA forward next Summer in 28 year old Chris Kreider, should they fail to deal all three other players above. Unless buyouts are necessary of one or more of those initial three, cap issues would be of no worry for them next season and beyond. Also in importance, the signing of Panarin prevented the local Isles from doing so, despite them offering him more money, and expecting earlier on that July 1st day to land him.