First, their rebuild was initially accelerated FASTER due to some luck in the Draft Lottery to select Kakko as the #2 Overall Pick, (who could have easily been #1 overall instead), in addition to stealing Trouba at age 25 in a trade with the Jets. That's one reason why they signed Panarin within days later, who is only 2 years older than Trouba, and not in his young 30's as you and Brukie are making him out to be.

Second, the 3 main contracts they are trying to "dump" are all BAD contracts, starting with the 2 years remaining of two d'men at age 30 in Shattenkirk (at $6.65M) and Smith (at $4.35M), along with an overpaid forward and potential UFA next Summer in Namestnikov (at $4M), who by the way is only 1 year younger than Panarin. They cannot find takers for any, despite even willing to retain 50% of either of those 2 d'men's salaries.

So the three they are desperately trying to "sell off" WOULD NOT BE part of their future rebuild within two seasons from now. To help become cap compliant FOR THIS SEASON ONLY, they did attempt to trade another potential UFA forward next Summer in 28 year old Chris Kreider, should they fail to deal all three other players above. Unless buyouts are necessary of one or more of those initial three, cap issues would be of no worry for them next season and beyond. Also in importance, the signing of Panarin prevented the local Isles from doing so, despite them offering him more money, and expecting earlier on that July 1st day to land him.
- RangerSaver

Cheers to lottery luck boys!

Cheers to lottery luck boys!

- bikeguy99

Your Devils have had even more in lottery luck cheers.

First, their rebuild was initially accelerated FASTER due to some luck in the Draft Lottery to select Kakko as the #2 Overall Pick, (who could have easily been #1 overall instead), in addition to stealing Trouba at age 25 in a trade with the Jets. That's one reason why they signed Panarin within days later, who is only 2 years older than Trouba, and not in his young 30's as you and Brukie are making him out to be.

Second, the 3 main contracts they are trying to "dump" are all BAD contracts, starting with the 2 years remaining of two d'men at age 30 in Shattenkirk (at $6.65M) and Smith (at $4.35M), along with an overpaid forward and potential UFA next Summer in Namestnikov (at $4M), who by the way is only 1 year younger than Panarin. They cannot find takers for any, despite even willing to retain 50% of either of those 2 d'men's salaries.

So the three they are desperately trying to "sell off" WOULD NOT BE part of their future rebuild within two seasons from now. To help become cap compliant FOR THIS SEASON ONLY, they did attempt to trade another potential UFA forward next Summer in 28 year old Chris Kreider, should they fail to deal all three other players above. Unless buyouts are necessary of one or more of those initial three, cap issues would be of no worry for them next season and beyond. Also in importance, the signing of Panarin prevented the local Isles from doing so, despite them offering him more money, and expecting earlier on that July 1st day to land him.
- RangerSaver

The Trouba deal is independent of the Panarin signing. Also, you just made him the 2nd highest paid player in the league despite whatever discount you figure you got.....at 28 years of age the first month of the season. Do you think he's a top 10 player? Because i think moving forward it's easier to debate it the other way.

Those bad deals are off the books in 2 years, why potentially add another one down the road when the returns over the next couple of seasons could be detrimental? Do you think your team is a playoff team? Maybe, but i don't think they're a threat. You sacrifice draft standing while you rid yourselves of those contracts for marginal improvement.

I don't dislike the Rangers, they're probably my favourite original 6 team. However i'm not going to objectively look at the situation and give it a good grade.

I do, then again i'm a Canucks fan and don't think they'll be competing for the cup in 2 years neither.

I also am not a big fan of the Miller trade nor the Myers signing. I realize we're in a better position to make the playoffs than previously and have some really good young talent but being up to the cap so early in the rebuild is concerning.
- golfingsince

Kakko changed the timeline of the rebuild. If they drafted 9th I’m not sure both Panarin and Trouba happen. I think they would’ve rolled the dice next summer on Trouba as a UFA.

The Trouba deal is independent of the Panarin signing. Also, you just made him the 2nd highest paid player in the league despite whatever discount you figure you got.....at 28 years of age the first month of the season. Do you think he's a top 10 player? Because i think moving forward it's easier to debate it the other way.

Those bad deals are off the books in 2 years, why potentially add another one down the road when the returns over the next couple of seasons could be detrimental? Do you think your team is a playoff team? Maybe, but i don't think they're a threat. You sacrifice draft standing while you rid yourselves of those contracts for marginal improvement.

I don't dislike the Rangers, they're probably my favourite original 6 team. However i'm not going to objectively look at the situation and give it a good grade.
- golfingsince

Id normally agree with the whole signing a 28 year old to a 7 year deal thing is a bad idea, if you’ve been on this blog for a while you’d know how adamant I am about NOT signing 28 year olds to 7 year deals. With that said, I think Panarin is different bc he has much lower mileage on him than most guys at his level at that age. Most guys have been in the league about 8-9 years when they hit 28, Panarin only has 4.

The Trouba deal is independent of the Panarin signing. Also, you just made him the 2nd highest paid player in the league despite whatever discount you figure you got.....at 28 years of age the first month of the season. Do you think he's a top 10 player? Because i think moving forward it's easier to debate it the other way.

Those bad deals are off the books in 2 years, why potentially add another one down the road when the returns over the next couple of seasons could be detrimental? Do you think your team is a playoff team? Maybe, but i don't think they're a threat. You sacrifice draft standing while you rid yourselves of those contracts for marginal improvement.

I don't dislike the Rangers, they're probably my favourite original 6 team. However i'm not going to objectively look at the situation and give it a good grade.
- golfingsince

I get where you are coming from but I disagree. You keep waiting you end up like Edmonton/Buffalo. Gorton has some experience doing the same thing w Boston so Imma gonna remain optimistic.

OMG Panarin isnt the right player for this team now. We are in the middle of a rebuild,I doubt we will be cup contending in a few years and that will take Panarin till the 31-32 age, will he be the same player? I hope so. I want the Rangers to win also. But im pessimistic about it. We have a bunch of teenagers who have never played a minute of NHL hockey, so we will see soon enough.
- Brukie

Can you admit that Panarin/Trouba/Kakko accelerated the rebuild? Not whether you agree they’re good or not. Do those players change the complexion of the team enough to bring the team closer to the end of a rebuild

Can you admit that Panarin/Trouba/Kakko accelerated the rebuild? Not whether you agree they’re good or not. Do those players change the complexion of the team enough to bring the team closer to the end of a rebuild
- Bean_Dip

Don't even bother. Some people just can't get excited about anything because they are too stuck with one way of doing things.

Your Devils have had even more in lottery luck cheers.
- RangerSaver

Serious question, is english your first language? If it's not then I can almost understand why you write like this, nothing against anyone it's just not fluid word structure.

Pionk .. 3mill ? Cmon now thats a heist ,one of the worst Defensemen to actually play D , helps P P, moves puck out of own zone Ok BUT cant compete down low between the dots,corners ,behind the net,I cant say this is the price of doing biz 2019 ,like
Panarin, Important to team for more than just top 10 talent .
Hes the focal pt. , Him & Mika are the tip of the spear , so much talent unproved ,they need a buffer to get feet under them , how old is our projected top 6
Mika 26
Panarin 28

KK 19
Buchny 22?
Chtyl 20
Kravstov 19

Bottom 6 : Howden , Lemeuix, Boo ,Fast ,Strome ,and whos left after the trade for center

Shatty Names Smith are your bargain basement take em for 50% off $$ & a sweetner in a pick ( 2nd or 3rd no higher ) this is to get cap compliant


trading Krieds as part of a pkg to get a top notch center is exactly who we need to
give flexibility and experience to give the kids who can be great a chance .
Fla had all the top yg talent BUT over exposed them and there team imploded from the D end especially , the 2 way game is the most critical aspect to yg scoring talent
what do you do when you are not scoring ?

Kreids Georgiev Lias a top D prospect In Lindgren or Keane +draft picks
make for a nice combo of options for us to trade
may have to give up a #1 ,well worth it for a top center to complete a super great off season

Pionk .. 3mill ? Cmon now thats a heist ,one of the worst Defensemen to actually play D , helps P P, moves puck out of own zone Ok BUT cant compete down low between the dots,corners ,behind the net,I cant say this is the price of doing biz 2019 ,like
Panarin, Important to team for more than just top 10 talent .
Hes the focal pt. , Him & Mika are the tip of the spear , so much talent unproved ,they need a buffer to get feet under them , how old is our projected top 6
Mika 26
Panarin 28

KK 19
Buchny 22?
Chtyl 20
Kravstov 19

Bottom 6 : Howden , Lemeuix, Boo ,Fast ,Strome ,and whos left after the trade for center

Shatty Names Smith are your bargain basement take em for 50% off $$ & a sweetner in a pick ( 2nd or 3rd no higher ) this is to get cap compliant


trading Krieds as part of a pkg to get a top notch center is exactly who we need to
give flexibility and experience to give the kids who can be great a chance .
Fla had all the top yg talent BUT over exposed them and there team imploded from the D end especially , the 2 way game is the most critical aspect to yg scoring talent
what do you do when you are not scoring ?

Kreids Georgiev Lias a top D prospect In Lindgren or Keane +draft picks
make for a nice combo of options for us to trade a pkg for a top center
- NASHTYGUY

due to Pionk $$ AdA may be gone ?
whats he gonna get open market If pionk got 3 mill

The Trouba deal is independent of the Panarin signing. Also, you just made him the 2nd highest paid player in the league despite whatever discount you figure you got.....at 28 years of age the first month of the season. Do you think he's a top 10 player? Because i think moving forward it's easier to debate it the other way.

Those bad deals are off the books in 2 years, why potentially add another one down the road when the returns over the next couple of seasons could be detrimental? Do you think your team is a playoff team? Maybe, but i don't think they're a threat. You sacrifice draft standing while you rid yourselves of those contracts for marginal improvement.

I don't dislike the Rangers, they're probably my favourite original 6 team. However i'm not going to objectively look at the situation and give it a good grade.
- golfingsince

Majority of the people do. You are in the minority around your offseason grade

breaking down NYR situation goes 2 fold
1. getting cap compliant
2. Trading Kreids ,Georgiev,Lias A , some D prospects not Miller /Lundkquist + top draft pick possible #1 in future
for a top center , no one should be comfortable with just 2 real experienced top 6 guys (panarin ,Mika )
the rest are kids with Buchny next in tenure & skill just starting to bloom,Chtyl at 20 ? then 2 true rooks in KK & Kravstov @ 19??
how can all over look the glaring hole & not the cap issue
create a valuable pkg of the assets outlined to get center

sell Shatty ,Names ,Smith for 50 % of $$ & a sweetner in a 2nd or 3rd rd pick and they will be gone

[quote=golfingsince]To be what? A consistent playoff team, contender, champs?

Other teams are out there trying to improve at the same time. I say there's just as good of a chance you're the worst team in the NYC area in 2 years as you are the best.

I agree with Burkie, timing is everything. You're rebuilding, why sell guys off cheaply or move assets to dump contracts to accommodate a top flight FA winger who likely just had the best season he's ever going to have?


All of the above over the next few years. Isn't that exactly the point?

The Rangers just had one of their best overall Draft/Free Agency summers in years. Yet i keep reading so much pessimism and negativity. Why don't we sit back and try to enjoy the season before we tear it apart first.

Okay back to summer

The Rangers just had one of their best overall Draft/Free Agency summers in years. Yet i keep reading so much pessimism and negativity. Why don't we sit back and try to enjoy the season before we tear it apart first.

Okay back to summer
- TPC

I honestly don't know why I read the comments at this point.

Where has Jimbo been? He get the hammer too?

I honestly don't know why I read the comments at this point.

Where has Jimbo been? He get the hammer too?
- JRR1285

It is the dog days of the offseason. He prob just needs a break from this place. If I wasn't so bored at work at times I would prob take a break too

It is the dog days of the offseason. He prob just needs a break from this place. If I wasn't so bored at work at times I would prob take a break too
- TPC

Same.

Saw a rumor, multiple Russian reports have the Rangers close to signing Anton Burdasov, he’s a big tough winger. 19 goals, 115 pims

Scott Wheeler of The Athletic has three Ranger prospects listed in his Top-50 NHL drafted prospects:
#2: Kaapo Kakko
#10: Adam Fox
#36: Vitali Kravtsov

The most interesting Rangers-related item was Adam Fox ranked #10. Here's what he wrote:

" I will die on the Adam Fox hill. Undeniably brilliant offensive tools, uncharacteristically good defensive decision-making for a player his age. If he doesn’t become a bona fide No. 1, he’ll be close."

I honestly don't know why I read the comments at this point.

Where has Jimbo been? He get the hammer too?
- JRR1285

He’s in Alaska...I’m housesitting and this house hasn’t seen this much action since Dubinsky was a Ranger

Saw a rumor, multiple Russian reports have the Rangers close to signing Anton Burdasov, he’s a big tough winger. 19 goals, 115 pims
- Slimtj100

If true and he is signed, that should be a signal to everyone that moves/deals are in place already, and will be acted on shortly

He’s in Alaska...I’m housesitting and this house hasn’t seen this much action since Dubinsky was a Ranger
- Slimtj100

Is he connecting with nature?

Is he connecting with nature?
- JRR1285

Cruise, yea lol. He’s whipped🤷🏻‍♂️