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Ogilthorpe2
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Jul 24 @ 7:41 PM ET
Stan should sign him to a 7 year, $2 million AAV deal.
- DarthKane

He should give him league minimum for one year.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 24 @ 7:46 PM ET
He should give him league minimum for one year.
- Ogilthorpe2

That’s about what Epstein got - about a year....
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 24 @ 7:59 PM ET
https://theathletic.com/1088672/2019/07/23/projecting-the-blackhawks-lineups-through-the-2022-23-season/?redirected=1

For those with an Athletic subscription, Powers' most recent article projects the Blackhawks lineup for the next 4 seasons. Although I won't cut and paste the full article with his commentary, I'll share at least the projected lineups.

2019-20

Kubalik - Toews - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Perlini
Saad - Kampf - Shaw
Caggiula - Carpenter - Smith
Wedin, Quenneville

Keith - Gustafsson
de Haan - Seabrook
Maatta - Murphy
Koekkoek

Crawford
Lehner

- AEL_Fox

Interesting that Powers in early July had Kubalik as a 3rd liner and Sikura as a 1st liner and Perlini being the odd man out but whom could switch in for Sikura maybe.

Either way, with the current group, that 3rd line looks like it'll struggle to produce. Saad and Shaw both require playmakers to produce pretty well (they're both shot-first players with average passing) which is why they were at their best with Kane shifting a lot with them. Kampf is no use to them - he's all effort / no hands.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 24 @ 8:01 PM ET
Did he do one last year? I'd love to ser how wrong he was.
- BetweenTheDots

The only one that he did last year was in late March - or at least it's the only one I could find. It looks like every other armchair GM setup in that it was wrong in almost every way it could be.

Saad-Toews-Sikura
Debrincat-Schmaltz-Kane
Duclair-Anisimov-Hinostroza
Jurco-Kampf-Hayden
Kero

Keith-Murphy
Forsling-Rutta
Oesterle-Seabrook
Gus

https://theathletic.com/2...owman-add-this-offseason/
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
Calgary re-signs Bennett to 2 year deal worth $2.55 million per season.

While he’s not a direct comparison to Perlini it shows he won’t be signing for $1 million. Bennett’s second contract of $1.95 million may be more accurate.

- DarthKane


Trade his rights for a pick/prospect!
Ogilthorpe2
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Jul 24 @ 8:29 PM ET
Interesting that Powers in early July had Kubalik as a 3rd liner and Sikura as a 1st liner and Perlini being the odd man out but whom could switch in for Sikura maybe.

Either way, with the current group, that 3rd line looks like it'll struggle to produce. Saad and Shaw both require playmakers to produce pretty well (they're both shot-first players with average passing) which is why they were at their best with Kane shifting a lot with them. Kampf is no use to them - he's all effort / no hands.

- L_B_R

Don’t worry, Zack Smith will save the day. He hits.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 24 @ 8:39 PM ET
Interesting that Powers in early July had Kubalik as a 3rd liner and Sikura as a 1st liner and Perlini being the odd man out but whom could switch in for Sikura maybe.

Either way, with the current group, that 3rd line looks like it'll struggle to produce. Saad and Shaw both require playmakers to produce pretty well (they're both shot-first players with average passing) which is why they were at their best with Kane shifting a lot with them. Kampf is no use to them - he's all effort / no hands.

- L_B_R


Yup, well said. That suggested 3rd line is garbage.

This is the best possible scenario for our forwards, and believe it’s realistic:

Saad-Toews-Shaw/Dach
XXX-Shaw/Dach-Kane
DeBrincat-Strome-XXX
Caggiula-Kampf/Carpenter-Smith

XXX = Kubalik, Nylander, Perlini, Sikura, Kurashev, etc, etc...
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 24 @ 8:45 PM ET
Calgary re-signs Bennett to 2 year deal worth $2.55 million per season.

While he’s not a direct comparison to Perlini it shows he won’t be signing for $1 million. Bennett’s second contract of $1.95 million may be more accurate.

- DarthKane

Yeah, but Bennet shows up to play every night. Think Perlini will be moved before the season starts. Ottawa would be perfect for him.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 24 @ 8:47 PM ET
He should give him league minimum for one year.
- Ogilthorpe2

He should give him the contact information for any other team's traveling secretary.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:27 PM ET
DeBrincat for Lucic!
- DarthKane


worththecup would be proud...
rpeters01
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Jul 24 @ 9:46 PM ET
That’s about what Epstein got - about a year....
- StLBravesFan

Can he be an RFA again or does a team only get one shot doing that?
dpard
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:48 PM ET


Live look in at Paul ^^

You have been harassing me for 5 years you pathetic troll. Get a life.

- EnzoD

Dat can't be Paul, no pasghetti On his shirt.
You're a fragile excuse for a man, Enzo. Go light a bowl, eat a box of ho hos, and chill the (frank) out with your safe space llama! Anyone who challenges your hockey expertise is "harassing" you. Snowflake
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:02 PM ET
Yeah, but Bennet shows up to play every night. Think Perlini will be moved before the season starts. Ottawa would be perfect for him.
- Elbows15



I'd be ok with that.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:10 PM ET
On the CPHL's team rosters Boqvist's pro team is listed as Rockford and Dach's is Chicago. There we have it, Dach has made the team.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
Ohh...Those D pairs...Keith already should be sliding down to 2nd pair, I hope he isn't still top pair in 4 years...that would not be good IMO.
- breadbag

Yeah, I would agree that Keith at least slides down to 2nd pair with the 1st pair being Beaudin with either Boqvist or Mitchell (if development goes as planned). Keith would then partner with the one who doesn't pair up with Beaudin.

Assuming no trade acquisitions or free agents, 3rd pair could have any of Carlsson, Krys, Galvas, and/or Vlasic. Or none of the above but guessing at least one of them is there.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
The only one that he did last year was in late March - or at least it's the only one I could find. It looks like every other armchair GM setup in that it was wrong in almost every way it could be.

Saad-Toews-Sikura
Debrincat-Schmaltz-Kane
Duclair-Anisimov-Hinostroza
Jurco-Kampf-Hayden
Kero

Keith-Murphy
Forsling-Rutta
Oesterle-Seabrook
Gus

https://theathletic.com/2...owman-add-this-offseason/

- L_B_R

Thanks for answering Dots' question. I finally got an Athletic subscription a few months ago so not sure if Powers had done a similar article last year.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Interesting that Powers in early July had Kubalik as a 3rd liner and Sikura as a 1st liner and Perlini being the odd man out but whom could switch in for Sikura maybe.

Either way, with the current group, that 3rd line looks like it'll struggle to produce. Saad and Shaw both require playmakers to produce pretty well (they're both shot-first players with average passing) which is why they were at their best with Kane shifting a lot with them. Kampf is no use to them - he's all effort / no hands.

- L_B_R

Agree that Kampf would reduce the full effectiveness of a 3rd line that could have Saad and Shaw as wingers. They would be a great defensive line but Saad and Shaw can bring so much more to the team, particularly on offense, so they would be neutered to a significant degree.

The strong teams in the league can roll 3 lines that can score plus a 4th line that can shut down the opposition, eat minutes, and give maximum effort in all zones.

Kampf, Carpenter, or even Smith as a regular 3rd liner gravitates the team toward 2 checking lines that in total as the bottom 6 may not provide satisfactory secondary scoring that can make a difference on the balance of the season.

Of those 3, Smith is the only one I would be okay with playing some time on the 3rd line but only if needed.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 24 @ 10:47 PM ET
Dat can't be Paul, no pasghetti On his shirt.
You're a fragile excuse for a man, Enzo. Go light a bowl, eat a box of ho hos, and chill the (frank) out with your safe space llama! Anyone who challenges your hockey expertise is "harassing" you. Snowflake

- dpard

It's not challenging his hockey expertise, it's classic trolling. Enzo wasn't alone in saying Toews was done, and his 3 years before this one didn't inspire much confidence that he could regain his form. I defended Toews (my favorite current Hawk) for the first two years, but even I couldn't defend 2017-18 Toews. I don't recall Enzo bashing Toews last year, in fact, I remember him praising him on a regular basis.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:10 PM ET
Agree that Kampf would reduce the full effectiveness of a 3rd line that could have Saad and Shaw as wingers. They would be a great defensive line but Saad and Shaw can bring so much more to the team, particularly on offense, so they would be neutered to a significant degree.

The strong teams in the league can roll 3 lines that can score plus a 4th line that can shut down the opposition, eat minutes, and give maximum effort in all zones.

Kampf, Carpenter, or even Smith as a regular 3rd liner gravitates the team toward 2 checking lines that in total as the bottom 6 may not provide satisfactory secondary scoring that can make a difference on the balance of the season.

Of those 3, Smith is the only one I would be okay with playing some time on the 3rd line but only if needed.

- AEL_Fox


If we go into the season with a "worst-case-scenario" and don't get an upgrade for 3C (I'm assuming Dach does no more than get the 9 game tryout - I would be ecstatic to be wrong), what about a third like of Saad-Shaw-Sikura. I know Shaw is best served on wing, but at least Sikura has shown the ability to create chances for others. Still a defensively responsible line as well.
Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 24 @ 11:19 PM ET
The only one that he did last year was in late March - or at least it's the only one I could find. It looks like every other armchair GM setup in that it was wrong in almost every way it could be.

Saad-Toews-Sikura
Debrincat-Schmaltz-Kane
Duclair-Anisimov-Hinostroza
Jurco-Kampf-Hayden
Kero

Keith-Murphy
Forsling-Rutta
Oesterle-Seabrook
Gus

https://theathletic.com/2...owman-add-this-offseason/

- L_B_R


I love the lineup chats right now. It'll be a great segue into my article coming out in the morning.

Honestly though look at that lineup above and look at the Hawks now. A bast inprovement, especially on D.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
If we go into the season with a "worst-case-scenario" and don't get an upgrade for 3C (I'm assuming Dach does no more than get the 9 game tryout - I would be ecstatic to be wrong), what about a third like of Saad-Shaw-Sikura. I know Shaw is best served on wing, but at least Sikura has shown the ability to create chances for others. Still a defensively responsible line as well.
- Chunk

Although I don't see Shaw as a center (he can do it but is best as a regular winger), I don't mind that line you proposed. Not optimal but could be fairly productive. Sikura plays like a center but not sure if he can hold down that role long term

Before Anisimov was traded, I was envisioning him centering Saad and Sikura. Then Shaw playing with Toews and Kane and either Kubalik or Perlini playing with DeBrincat and Strome.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 25 @ 12:11 AM ET
Can he be an RFA again or does a team only get one shot doing that?
- rpeters01


If the two sides can't reach a conclusion by December 1st, then Perlini will miss the 2019/20 season and will remain an RFA. The contract won't be able to be re-negotiated until July 1st, 2020 but he still won't be eligible for arbitration. 
rpeters01
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Jul 25 @ 12:42 AM ET
If the two sides can't reach a conclusion by December 1st, then Perlini will miss the 2019/20 season and will remain an RFA. The contract won't be able to be re-negotiated until July 1st, 2020 but he still won't be eligible for arbitration. 
- walleyeb1

If he were to sign a one year deal the team jams down his throat this year and has a great year, would he be an RFA again next year or a UFA, that's what I don't understand?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 12:52 AM ET
If he were to sign a one year deal the team jams down his throat this year and has a great year, would he be an RFA again next year or a UFA, that's what I don't understand?

- rpeters01



Assuming the Hawks extended a qualifying offer he’d be an RFA.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 25 @ 3:45 AM ET
If we go into the season with a "worst-case-scenario" and don't get an upgrade for 3C (I'm assuming Dach does no more than get the 9 game tryout - I would be ecstatic to be wrong), what about a third like of Saad-Shaw-Sikura. I know Shaw is best served on wing, but at least Sikura has shown the ability to create chances for others. Still a defensively responsible line as well.
- Chunk

Nice idea. Would like to see them together.
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