This is a report from last week so their asking price may have changed since then, but Vegas is reportedly underwhelmed by trade offers for Gusev. Offers have included a 2nd round pick + a low-end prospect or a lower draft pick.
- AEL_Fox

What return are they hoping for? Never played a game in the NHL and it’s not like they can acquire salary. 2nd rounder and a middle prospect is about right for an unproven asset.

- Ogilthorpe2

Fine. Wonder what they can get for Maatta, Perlini and a bag of pucks?

I think your mixing a bunch of bloggers together. Im not happy with the trade but im willing tp give the kid a chance, same with Perlini, same with Dach or any kid in Rockford. I like the competition Bowman created with most of his moves. Just cause he made s trade doesn't mean i have to like it, in fact don't like the last 2, but those are 2 separate things.
- BetweenTheDots

Judging by the comments it seems like most of us are willing to give nylander a chance. But at this point in his development he has to be aware of the "entitled" label that he's been given. You would think, given the opportunity with a new club, that he would have been eager to prove the label wrong. So far that doesnt seem to be the case. Any criticism from us for a lack of effort on his part i think is justified.

Judging by the comments it seems like most of us are willing to give nylander a chance. But at this point in his development he has to be aware of the "entitled" label that he's been given. You would think, given the opportunity with a new club, that he would have been eager to prove the label wrong. So far that doesnt seem to be the case. Any criticism from us for a lack of effort on his part i think is justified.
- BMoreHawks

We don't have any choice but to give him a chance and hope he can extract his head from his ass to take advantages of this opportunity to start with a fresh slate.

Fine. Wonder what they can get for Maatta, Perlini and a bag of pucks?
- Elbows15

- Ogilthorpe2

I am not adding anything else. Who knows. Maybe the contract negotiations is a wake up call for Perlini. i have my doubts. JC sat him quite a few times last season and it didn't seem to help except for a brief period.

Wonder what they could get if they packaged Maatta and Perlini?
- Elbows15

What they should get is either laughed at or hung up on! Try to not have slow dmen or lackadaisical forwards

Now i am not going to be lackadaisical about researching both players scouting report their draft year. I seem to recall Perlini went like #12 overall and cannot recall exactly when Maata was plucked. What were the scouts for those teams thinking? If i thought either player could become a top player, i would look up their old scouting report.

I went on Youtube to find clips of this Cap Space guy, but there was not any. Can you please share them here?


- powerenforcer

I'm guessing Cap Space Guy has a bunch of space under his cap (inside his head).

We don't have any choice but to give him a chance and hope he can extract his head from his ass to take advantages of this opportunity to start with a fresh slate.
- Elbows15

Perhaps a good reason to put him with Toews and Kane for a while (at least in preseaon). If he is floating then Toews will be in his ear. Then we will see if there is a response.

Got to think since they traded for him maybe that Plans A and B are:
A. He is happy to get out of Buffalo and steps it up
B. Veterans get on him and he responds

Any hope for Kyle Olson?

https://www.eliteprospect.../player/161063/kyle-olson

Had a goal or two in camp. Will try to get a look at him when Tri-Cities comes to Seattle.

I'm guessing Cap Space Guy has a bunch of space under his cap (inside his head).
- totem

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8XddGIaLaU

How about a little more cap space?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8XddGIaLaU

How about a little more cap space?
- Googlyeyes

Sadly, Stan will never do what it takes to win the Cap Space Cup.
- Ogilthorpe2

Well the rules are getting pretty lax for what is banner worthy these days.

What they should get is either laughed at or hung up on! Try to not have slow dmen or lackadaisical forwards

Now i am not going to be lackadaisical about researching both players scouting report their draft year. I seem to recall Perlini went like #12 overall and cannot recall exactly when Maata was plucked. What were the scouts for those teams thinking? If i thought either player could become a top player, i would look up their old scouting report.
- jhawk59

What scouts thought of them when they were 17 is pretty irrelevant at this point. Maatta is what he is. He is an okay player that given the make-up of the projected D group is just a bad fit. He really doesn't have partner to bring out the best in him. The thought of him and Seabrook together gives me nightmares. I don't think Murphy and Maatta will work either. And that leaves de Haan with Seabrook. Which is fine but de Haan should be playing top 3 minutes and Seabrook shouldn't at this point.

Perlini would be fine if he didn't just glide all over the ice most of the time. When he keeps his feet moving, the puck does find him but far too often he is gliding all the place. Its infuriating.

Perhaps a good reason to put him with Toews and Kane for a while (at least in preseaon). If he is floating then Toews will be in his ear. Then we will see if there is a response.

Got to think since they traded for him maybe that Plans A and B are:
A. He is happy to get out of Buffalo and steps it up
B. Veterans get on him and he responds
- totem

If he shows up to camp and shows he deserves it, sure. I certainly wouldn't be handing his lazy ass the golden ticket unless he showed me how much he wants it.

While Caligula doesn't have the talents to be a top line guy, I would much rather watch him bust his ass all over the ice than a guy who won't come into the middle of the ice.

If he shows up to camp and shows he deserves it, sure. I certainly wouldn't be handing his lazy ass the golden ticket unless he showed me how much he wants it.

While Caligula doesn't have the talents to be a top line guy, I would much rather watch him bust his ass all over the ice than a guy who won't come into the middle of the ice.
- Elbows15

Agreed. The only point of putting Nylander on the top line, even in preseason, is if it gets him to step up to his talent level all the time; if not, it's off to Rockford with him.

Like Caligula and he can fit into the top line for now. He might get forced out because he is tradeable if Nylander, Dach, Kurashev, etc. are ready.

What scouts thought of them when they were 17 is pretty irrelevant at this point. Maatta is what he is. He is an okay player that given the make-up of the projected D group is just a bad fit. He really doesn't have partner to bring out the best in him. The thought of him and Seabrook together gives me nightmares. I don't think Murphy and Maatta will work either. And that leaves de Haan with Seabrook. Which is fine but de Haan should be playing top 3 minutes and Seabrook shouldn't at this point.

Perlini would be fine if he didn't just glide all over the ice most of the time. When he keeps his feet moving, the puck does find him but far too often he is gliding all the place. Its infuriating.
- Elbows15

I'm likely in the minority with this perspective, but for D pairs:

I would pair Keith and Seabrook as a pair until they end their careers. Keith and Seabrook have complemented each other in the past so it may be best to reunite them as they age.

Then pair Maatta with de Haan so Olli has a strong skating partner who also excels at defense so they can form the top shutdown pair.

And then have Murphy serve as Gustafsson's defensive conscience and insurance policy so 56 can run and gun. Murphy's not the strongest skater but Gustafsson is more agile and quick in comparison.

I'm likely in the minority with this perspective, but for D pairs:

I would pair Keith and Seabrook as a pair until they end their careers. Keith and Seabrook have complemented each other in the past so it may be best to reunite them as they age.

Then pair Maatta with de Haan so Olli has a strong skating partner who also excels at defense so they can form the top shutdown pair.

And then have Murphy serve as Gustafsson's defensive conscience and insurance policy so 56 can run and gun. Murphy's not the strongest skater but Gustafsson is more agile and quick in comparison.
- AEL_Fox

If de Haan doesn't start the season right away, then I would slot Koekkoek with Maatta since Slater is pretty mobile and have Dahlstrom as the 7th man.

Once de Haan is at full health, bump Koekkoek down to 7th man and send Dahlstrom back to Rockford. He may have to clear waivers but the chances of him getting claimed is fairly low but isn't the end of the world if he does.

By then, Carlsson, Beaudin, Krys, or possibly Boqvist could be recalled if needed.

If he shows up to camp and shows he deserves it, sure. I certainly wouldn't be handing his lazy ass the golden ticket unless he showed me how much he wants it.

While Caligula doesn't have the talents to be a top line guy, I would much rather watch him bust his ass all over the ice than a guy who won't come into the middle of the ice.
- Elbows15

Like any other prospect, Nylander needs to earn his spot on the team on whatever line that may end up being. This reset on his young career hopefully helps him check his ego at the door and give him a new-found drive to succeed the right way by putting in the requisite work to improve and impress.

Also agree that I'd much rather see Caggiula and even Shaw play with Toews and Kane than Nylander at this point. Both have a similar style and impact on opening up ice and keeping the other team honest all over the ice.

Smith may have a similar impact but for the bottom 6. While I see him as mainly a 4th liner, I also have no issue with him playing up a line if the need arises. A few stints on 2nd line isn't a bad thing either if he is riding a hot hand but would not view him as a medium-term (definitely not long-term) solution there.

i recall the same, he was horrible during the drills. BUT, did the Cat have the label of disinterest or coasting ever? i dont recall that but i may be wrong.
- glennjpawlak22

If I remember correctly, our blogger fairly negative on him.

See when I read Cap Space Guy ... I think of the Cow Bell guy ... I gotta fever ... fever who's only cure? More cap space .... cue Don't Fear the Reaper...

Judging by the comments it seems like most of us are willing to give nylander a chance. But at this point in his development he has to be aware of the "entitled" label that he's been given. You would think, given the opportunity with a new club, that he would have been eager to prove the label wrong. So far that doesnt seem to be the case. Any criticism from us for a lack of effort on his part i think is justified.
- BMoreHawks

Let me just go on the record as saying that no one on this board knows anything about Alex Nylander, his family, his work ethic, his path through the Sabre's organization.

Quit listening to people on a public hockey board who claim to know anything about any of those subjects, because they don't.

Wait for camp, wait for the preseason, watch him play, then make your own informed decision about what he is or isn't.

It reminds when people talk about who won the draft before a guy has even played a minute, a down, or a period.

See when I read Cap Space Guy ... I think of the Cow Bell guy ... I gotta fever ... fever who's only cure? More cap space .... cue Don't Fear the Reaper...
- SC116

He was Mark Bell's cousin right

Well the rules are getting pretty lax for what is banner worthy these days.



- John McDonough

I'm actually embarrassed for them

I'm likely in the minority with this perspective, but for D pairs:

I would pair Keith and Seabrook as a pair until they end their careers. Keith and Seabrook have complemented each other in the past so it may be best to reunite them as they age.

Then pair Maatta with de Haan so Olli has a strong skating partner who also excels at defense so they can form the top shutdown pair.

And then have Murphy serve as Gustafsson's defensive conscience and insurance policy so 56 can run and gun. Murphy's not the strongest skater but Gustafsson is more agile and quick in comparison.
- AEL_Fox

I like the idea you put forth. IMO Keith and Seabrook should be relegated to the teams 2nd or 3rd pairing , due to age , vast amount of games already played throughout their careers.
If Chicago wants any type of playoff run , having these 2 guys a lot fresher only can help the team.

In the shortened season 2013 coach Q had his shutdown , penalty kill units that lead to a fresher Toews.


On the Nylander line pairing , wouldn't he fit in better playing alongside

Debrincat and strome ?