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Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 10:14 PM ET
Technically any player's play prior to how they now is younger.
- Rinosaur


Saw through that did ya!?!?! LMAO
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
I honestly forgot we had Tanev.
- Victoro311

Why haven’t you decided on a new avatar?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
Why haven’t you decided on a new avatar?
- RafiDRW

I ain’t changing it.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:16 PM ET
Why haven’t you decided on a new avatar?
- RafiDRW


Kessel will always be a Penguin.
OldPloppers
Joined: 07.22.2019

Jul 22 @ 10:16 PM ET

Today @ 10:08 PM ET
I don’t recall the end of his Duck’s time or the start of Kunitz’s tenure here but did Kunitz play like a young Kunitz before arriving in the Burgh?


Yes. If you give his numbers a quick look, you'll see that he was pretty consistent until his final couple seasons with the Pens, when his age and style started catching up with him.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:17 PM ET
Saw through that did ya!?!?! LMAO
- Doogs


LOL right through
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:21 PM ET
I ain’t changing it.
- Victoro311

That’s racist.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:22 PM ET
Kessel will always be a Penguin.
- Rinosaur

I don’t know. His stint as a lumberjack/Jedi is one of my fondest memories.
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Jul 22 @ 11:11 PM ET
I don’t know. His stint as a lumberjack/Jedi is one of my fondest memories.
- RafiDRW


RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:15 PM ET

- Za Warudo

Dunno how you (frank)ed that image up. Or does it show up in the thread for you?
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 22 @ 11:40 PM ET
Good God I hope Tanev does well this year. Then maybe RW will shut up about it. Who am I kidding, he just likes to female dog.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:42 PM ET
Good God I hope Tanev does well this year. Then maybe RW will shut up about it. Who am I kidding, he just likes to female dog.
- stevens87

Can you blame him? It’s a terrible contract.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:43 PM ET
Good God I hope Tanev does well this year. Then maybe RW will shut up about it. Who am I kidding, he just likes to female dog.
- stevens87


Tanev will be fine. He's a solid hockey player. It's the contract RW hates. Unless Tanev puts up 40+ points, be prepared for plenty blogs about who the Pens could have had if not for that contract.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:44 PM ET
Good God I hope Tanev does well this year. Then maybe RW will shut up about it. Who am I kidding, he just likes to female dog.
- stevens87

I think he will play well. Another Steve Downie and Blake Comeau situation. I liked them in Pittsburgh.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:49 PM ET
Trying to be positive for a moment and not look at contracts and cap there is one positive for this year's Pens and that's forward depth. They have players capable of playing anywhere in the lineup. The fact that Rust, Simon, Tanev or even McCann could play on the fourth line says something to depth.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 22 @ 11:52 PM ET
Can you blame him? It’s a terrible contract.
- RafiDRW


It's not that bad. Not the way he talks about. It's not Milan Lucic or the guy traded for him James Neal. You want bad contracts?

Here are two:

Nielsen, Frans 35 $5,250,000 for 3 more years

Abdelkader, Justin 32 $4,250,000 for 4 more years.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:55 PM ET
It's not that bad. Not the way he talks about. It's not Milan Lucic or the guy traded for him James Neal. You want bad contracts?

Here are two:

Nielsen, Frans 35 $5,250,000 for 3 more years

Abdelkader, Justin 32 $4,250,000 for 4 more years.

- stevens87

You forgot Helm Dekeyser Daley and Ericsson. Thanks for playing.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:58 PM ET
It's not that bad. Not the way he talks about. It's not Milan Lucic or the guy traded for him James Neal. You want bad contracts?

Here are two:

Nielsen, Frans 35 $5,250,000 for 3 more years

Abdelkader, Justin 32 $4,250,000 for 4 more years.

- stevens87


There are plenty of bad contracts around the league, so what? That doesn't mean a GM should make them because other teams did, too.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 23 @ 12:00 AM ET
You forgot Helm Dekeyser Daley and Ericsson. Thanks for playing.
- Feds91Stammer



So you agree with me that Tanev's contract is not that bad compared to others?
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 23 @ 12:01 AM ET
There are plenty of bad contracts around the league, so what? That doesn't mean a GM should make them because other teams did, too.
- Rinosaur


You really think Tanev's contract is that crippling to Pens?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 23 @ 12:05 AM ET
You really think Tanev's contract is that crippling to Pens?
- stevens87


Crippling? No. I'm not being that dramatic. However, the Pens already have two bad contracts, so adding this one makes it harder for the Pens to go after big fish.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 23 @ 12:06 AM ET
So you agree with me that Tanev's contract is not that bad compared to others?
- stevens87

It’s pretty bad. Wings have a ton of them. (frank)ing sucks. Stick to topic. For what stance brings, his contract is egregious. Length is horrid. Term is ugh.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 23 @ 12:11 AM ET
Crippling? No. I'm not being that dramatic. However, the Pens already have two bad contracts, so adding this one makes it harder for the Pens to go after big fish.
- Rinosaur


Good, at least you're reasonable. The mistake contract was Hornqvist. Four more years @ 5.3 Mil AVV for a guy who is hurt a lot. That was done purely on emotion. Unfortunately, this is how very successful teams go down hill. Chicago did it with Seabrook. It's hard but sometimes a GM has to let go.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 23 @ 12:13 AM ET
Good, at least you're reasonable. The mistake contract was Hornqvist. Four more years @ 5.3 Mil AVV. That was done purely on emotion. Unfortunately, this is how very successful teams go done. Chicago did it with Seabrook. It's hard but sometimes a GM has to let go.
- stevens87


There were a few mistake contracts, but yes, that one was ill-advised.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 23 @ 12:20 AM ET
It’s pretty bad. Wings have a ton of them. (frank)ing sucks. Stick to topic. For what stance brings, his contract is egregious. Length is horrid. Term is ugh.
- RafiDRW


OK so what would a good contract for him be? Three years @ $3 million a season?

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