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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs trade Sparks to Vegas, re-acquire Clarkson; The numbers game
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HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:01 PM ET
They always had the 10.5 is that difficult to understand?
- bobbyisno1

You guys are saying the same thing just arguing semantics.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:03 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull



This is actually happening?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:03 PM ET
The leafs are allowed to go over the cap by the amount of ltir they have. Horton and Clarkson are still on the cap but the leafs are allowed to spend over the cap by how much their cap hit is. So leafs can go over the cap by the amount of their contracts but their contracts eat up that cap space so it's basically like they're not on the team. No benefit beyond that.
- HealthyScratch6

Tell these other people, I get how it works, LTiR =no cap hit still have the cap space they had in the first place.
And they always had the 10.5 to sign Marner.
Just don't know what they are thinking.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:03 PM ET
Leafs paid 200k of Clarkson's contract to get rid of sparks because no one wanted him. Also grabbed a 4th. Simple as that.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:05 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky



*don't post that picture of Froppy*

*don't post that picture of Froppy*





oops
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:05 PM ET
Leafs paid 200k of Clarkson's contract to get rid of sparks because no one wanted him. Also grabbed a 4th. Simple as that.
- HealthyScratch6



Sparks was such a Tool Bag. Bye Felicia
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:06 PM ET
Tell these other people, I get how it works, LTiR =no cap hit still have the cap space they had in the first place.
And they always had the 10.5 to sign Marner.
Just don't know what they are thinking.

- bobbyisno1

I didn't back read very far but it sounds like youre saying their cap hit gets wiped out and the other guys are saying they can go over the cap. Either way it means the same thing just semantics. This move didn't benefit the leafs beyond the cap space they saved from sparks contract.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:06 PM ET
Ok fuk you guys.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:08 PM ET
I didn't back read very far but it sounds like youre saying their cap hit gets wiped out and the other guys are saying they can go over the cap. Either way it means the same thing just semantics. This move didn't benefit the leafs beyond the cap space they saved from sparks contract.
- HealthyScratch6

Exactly what I was saying, payroll went up but you still can't exceed the cap.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:09 PM ET
Ok fuk you guys.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

No, that was 1 time in college, not going back there.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 23 @ 9:09 PM ET
*don't post that picture of Froppy*

*don't post that picture of Froppy*





oops

- Steven_Seagull




No sexualising the Froppy!
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:10 PM ET
Ok fuk you guys.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Don't even bring up Band camp.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:12 PM ET
Everyone's talking Marner, but I wonder if this gives them some room to sign Gardiner for a short-term deal. Saw some rumblings about how he's waiting on term, but may sign a "show-me" deal with the Leafs for 1-2 years.

Rielly Ceci
Muzzin Barrie
Gardiner /Dermott

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:15 PM ET


No sexualising the Froppy!

- GreatGigInTheSky



Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:15 PM ET
Is there penalty’s or cap implications with LTIR?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:16 PM ET
Everyone's talking Marner, but I wonder if this gives them some room to sign Gardiner for a short-term deal. Saw some rumblings about how he's waiting on term, but may sign a "show-me" deal with the Leafs for 1-2 years.

Rielly Ceci
Muzzin Barrie
Gardiner /Dermott

- gravyface



When Dermott comes back, that’s a top 10 defence.



*waits for triggered annimes and Chinese Knock-off UG*
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:16 PM ET
Is there penalty’s or cap implications with LTIR?
- Garnie


https://twitter.com/EarlS...tatus/1153799226175848454
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:19 PM ET
Exactly what I was saying, payroll went up but you still can't exceed the cap.
- bobbyisno1

In actuality cap space did go up I think. tmThis move was actually needed because they couldn't have signed Marner without it (unless a different move was made).

They weren't close enough to the cap ceiling to fully realise the benefits or putting Horton on the LTIR
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:20 PM ET
For those who like to jerk it to draft picks the Leafs have 12 picks next draft.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:21 PM ET
https://twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1153799226175848454
- gravyface

In other words Marner just lost some leverage.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:21 PM ET
For those who like to jerk it to draft picks the Leafs have 12 picks next draft.
- Santo_44



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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:22 PM ET
For those who like to jerk it to draft picks the Leafs have 12 picks next draft.
- Santo_44


omg droppin (frank)in loads
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:23 PM ET
https://twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/status/1153799226175848454
- gravyface

I thought I read a year or 2 ago, that by not putting Horton on LTIR it didn’t cost us the next year ( as in penalty or tax or something )
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:23 PM ET
In other words Marner just lost some leverage.
- Santo_44


All 7th rounders

Here comes the next Datsyuk 🥰
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
I think this move was actually needed because they couldn't have signed Marner without it (unless a different move was made).

They weren't close enough to the cap ceiling to fully realise the benefits or putting Horton on the LTIR

- walshyleafsfan


If marner signs before the season, they'd be fine.

Insurance move if he doesn't. They can get 10.5m of LTIR if Marner isn't signed prior to the season.

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