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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs trade Sparks to Vegas, re-acquire Clarkson; The numbers game
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
Everyone's talking Marner, but I wonder if this gives them some room to sign Gardiner for a short-term deal. Saw some rumblings about how he's waiting on term, but may sign a "show-me" deal with the Leafs for 1-2 years.

Rielly Ceci
Muzzin Barrie
Gardiner /Dermott

- gravyface


Didn’t we only save Sparks contract?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:25 PM ET
I thought I read a year or 2 ago, that by not putting Horton on LTIR it didn’t cost us the next year ( as in penalty or tax or something )
- Garnie


Yup. Only if guys on elc's hit performance bonuses. Not much of an issue anymore.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:26 PM ET
In actuality cap space did go up I think. tmThis move was actually needed because they couldn't have signed Marner without it (unless a different move was made).

They weren't close enough to the cap ceiling to fully realise the benefits or putting Horton on the LTIR

- walshyleafsfan

They easily could sign Marner the had 3.8 in cap space and they could go over the cap by 10%.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
Too many n***as not enough hoes!
- Arctic_AARDVARK


What does this have to do with ninjas?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
I thought I read a year or 2 ago, that by not putting Horton on LTIR it didn’t cost us the next year ( as in penalty or tax or something )
- Garnie

They couldnt cause of the bonuses, would have carried over till this year.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
They easily could sign Marner the had 3.8 in cap space and they could go over the cap by 10%.
- bobbyisno1

Yes, you're correct. I don't think they could've done it once the season started though. I think?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 23 @ 9:30 PM ET
When Dermott comes back, that’s a top 10 defence.



*waits for triggered annimes and Chinese Knock-off UG*

- Steven_Seagull

it probably would be yes
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Jul 23 @ 9:30 PM ET
I thought I read a year or 2 ago, that by not putting Horton on LTIR it didn’t cost us the next year ( as in penalty or tax or something )
- Garnie


If you go over the cap and have to use ltir. Bonuses used up in that time frame are pushed to the following year. Leafs will have a poop ton of cap next year so it's a no biggie.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
What does this have to do with ninjas?
- As_I_See_It



They’re everywhere, man...
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
Yup. Only if guys on elc's hit performance bonuses. Not much of an issue anymore.
- Tumbleweed

Thanks
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
They couldnt cause of the bonuses, would have carried over till this year.
- bobbyisno1

Thanks
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
You (frank)ers did something.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
Sparks was such a Tool Bag. Bye Felicia
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Stop jankin my sh1t
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
They easily could sign Marner the had 3.8 in cap space and they could go over the cap by 10%.
- bobbyisno1


Problem is if they don't sign marner before the season. Leafs would have been (frank)ed. Marner's camp was probably using this has leverage.

Basically took that tactic away
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:32 PM ET
If you go over the cap and have to use ltir. Bonuses used up in that time frame are pushed to the following year. Leafs will have a poop ton of cap next year so it's a no biggie.
- Buck Norris

Thanks
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:32 PM ET
What does this have to do with ninjas?
- As_I_See_It

It's been my experience that the Ninjas chase the hot oriental women my way... Perfect.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
Didn’t we only save Sparks contract?
- Garnie


Go read that twitter link.

Cap move. Gives us Horton and Clarkson to put on LTIR; wouldn't have been able to do just Horton.

This protects us in case we have an inflated cap hit this year if Marner's not signed by camp.

Sparks for 4th is just a fresh start for him, to make it a hockey move.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
They’re everywhere, man...
- Steven_Seagull

Movin’ to country gonna eat a lotta peaches!
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
Breaking News - Horton and Clarkson are both having stem cell surgery and will be available for opening night. Divas then trades JT to Vegas for Sparks. The circle is complete Obi Wan.
- Leaping Liz


Response to trolling
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
Problem is if they don't sign marner before the season. Leafs would have been (frank)ed. Marner's camp was probably using this has leverage.

Basically took that tactic away

- Tumbleweed

Don't think so, they still only have about 10.5 in cap space.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
Movin’ to country gonna eat a lotta peaches!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Don't.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
Problem is if they don't sign marner before the season. Leafs would have been (frank)ed. Marner's camp was probably using this has leverage.

Basically took that tactic away

- Tumbleweed

If they don't sign marner by the start of the season doesn't his cap hit for year one get inflated like nylanders did the longer he sits out?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
It's been my experience that the Ninjas chase the hot oriental women my way... Perfect.
- bobbyisno1

Ok this might SOUND racist...


But I saw a smoking hot Asian (probably Korean) milf wit this Billy Bob Thornton lookin’ mafk today, all tatted-up at wild wing in G-hole.. I see that all the time.. and he wasn’t driving like a 2002 accord, like wtf
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
Go read that twitter link.

Cap move. Gives us Horton and Clarkson to put on LTIR; wouldn't have been able to do just Horton.

This protects us in case we have an inflated cap hit this year if Marner's not signed by camp.

Sparks for 4th is just a fresh start for him, to make it a hockey move.

- gravyface

Nah, pointless move
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:37 PM ET
Movin’ to country gonna eat a lotta peaches!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

really love your peaches want to shake your tree.
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