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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs trade Sparks to Vegas, re-acquire Clarkson; The numbers game
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BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:27 PM ET
How are the Leafs going to re-sign all three of Muzzin, Barrie and Clarkson? This team had too many pending UFAs as it was. Really short sighted move by Kyle Dubas.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 23 @ 8:27 PM ET
How are the Leafs going to re-sign all three of Muzzin, Barrie and Clarkson? This team had too many pending UFAs as it was. Really short sighted move by Kyle Dubas.
- BetterCallSaul

Not to mention Rielly in 3 years.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 8:28 PM ET
Siegel is wrong anyway, they have to use part of the cap space they have for Clarkson, when they put him on LTIR they just gain the space back.
- bobbyisno1



He's wrong but he's right?

He's right
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Jul 23 @ 8:28 PM ET
I don't see how thats true, they only created the extra cap space by ditching Sparks.
Trading for a guy that goes on the books and then comes of the books doesn't give any extra relief.

- bobbyisno1


5.25 mill extra relief
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:35 PM ET
Even simpler version. The league cap limit is 83 mill. But for the Leafs its 93.55. The Leafs technically have 15 mill in cap space at the moment to sign marner if need be (5.3 horton + 5.3clarkson + the 5 they already have) Dubas is pretty much a sneaky genius if ya think about it.

- Buck Norris

No their cap can't go past the 83 mill or what ever it is, just cause they have 10 mill in LTIR doesn't mean it's on the cap. those guys won't play, they still have 3.8 million in cap space.
Tradiding for Clarkson puts them over.
Actually after losing Sparks they had 4.5 mill in cap space minus the Clarkson contract.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 23 @ 8:37 PM ET
Even simpler version. The league cap limit is 81.5 mill. But for the Leafs its 93.55. The Leafs technically have 15 mill in cap space at the moment to sign marner if need be (5.3 horton + 5.3clarkson + the 5 they already have) Dubas is pretty much a sneaky genius if ya think about it.

- Buck Norris

LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jul 23 @ 8:38 PM ET
No their cap can't go past the 83 mill or what ever it is, just cause they have 10 mill in LTIR doesn't mean it's on the cap. those guys won't play, they still have 3.8 million in cap space.
Tradiding for Clarkson puts them over.
Actually after losing Sparks they had 4.5 mill in cap space minus the Clarkson contract.

- bobbyisno1


There is no point in arguing about it lol obviously the guys in charge of what to do know what they're doing. Let them worry about it
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:38 PM ET
He's wrong but he's right?

He's right

- burn

He's wrong no team can go over the alloted cap space.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 23 @ 8:39 PM ET
No their cap can't go past the 83 mill or what ever it is, just cause they have 10 mill in LTIR doesn't mean it's on the cap. those guys won't play, they still have 3.8 million in cap space.
Tradiding for Clarkson puts them over.
Actually after losing Sparks they had 4.5 mill in cap space minus the Clarkson contract.

- bobbyisno1

How hard is it to just go on Twitter or online somewhere and read about it?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:42 PM ET
How hard is it to just go on Twitter or online somewhere and read about it?
- ClarksonDavid

Sorry, you can go over in payroll but you can't exceed the the cap.
Facts Jack.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:43 PM ET
Too many n***as not enough hoes!
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Jul 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
If Clarkson won’t affect the Leafs cap because of LTIR, why did VGK have to trade him to clear cap space?
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
Sorry, you can go over in payroll but you can't exceed the the cap.
Facts Jack.

- bobbyisno1

Cap friendly says leafs can build a roster with projected cap hit up to 92 mil then put both Horton and Clarkson on LTIR. Just go read around. I’m not going to pretended to know how any of it works that much but to say this does nothing then have a bunch of credible sources saying otherwise seems weird.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
He's wrong no team can go over the alloted cap space.
- bobbyisno1



You're arguing semantics. The leafs gain space becuase of the ltir.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
You guys are dulling tf outta this place with your cap space jibber-jabber.
Leaping Liz
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sagamore Hills, OH
Joined: 12.04.2018

Jul 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
Breaking News - Horton and Clarkson are both having stem cell surgery and will be available for opening night. Divas then trades JT to Vegas for Sparks. The circle is complete Obi Wan.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
Cap friendly says leafs can build a roster with projected cap hit up to 92 mil then put both Horton and Clarkson on LTIR. Just go read around. I’m not going to pretended to know how any of it works that much but to say this does nothing then have a bunch of credible sources saying otherwise seems weird.
- ClarksonDavid

Still not a cap cause both Horton and clarkson won't be on the cap, that will be the payroll.
Leafs still only have the 10.5, maybe more now that Sparks is gone.
Leafs are not allowed to go over the cap just like any other team.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
Cap friendly says leafs can build a roster with projected cap hit up to 92 mil then put both Horton and Clarkson on LTIR. Just go read around. I’m not going to pretended to know how any of it works that much but to say this does nothing then have a bunch of credible sources saying otherwise seems weird.
- ClarksonDavid



It's just so weird watching people argue about it when they don't know enough about it and others have factually laid it out. But you know he's right and all else are wrong
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
Still not a cap cause both Horton and clarkson won't be on the cap, that will be the payroll.
Leafs still only have the 10.5, maybe more now that Sparks is gone.
Leafs are not allowed to go over the cap just like any other team.

- bobbyisno1

You’re right. I think dubas and pridham were bored. Someone should tell everyone else saying otherwise online
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
Breaking News - Horton and Clarkson are both having stem cell surgery and will be available for opening night. Divas then trades JT to Vegas for Sparks. The circle is complete Obi Wan.
- Leaping Liz

Oh ya,

Smoke another one you gym-bag.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
It's just so weird watching people argue about it when they don't know enough about it and others have factually laid it out. But you know he's right and all else are wrong
- burn

It’s even weirder watching you guys discuss this topic with boatloads of ambiguity.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
It's just so weird watching people argue about it when they don't know enough about it and others have factually laid it out. But you know he's right and all else are wrong
- burn

Really? so the projected cap hit is 92 million and when the put Horton a Clarkson on LTIR what is the cap hit?
Thats right it's now cap compliant, 82 where it's supposed to be.
Tell me how again that they gained cap space?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
Really? so the projected cap hit is 92 million and when the put Horton a Clarkson on LTIR what is the cap hit?
Thats right it's now cap compliant, 82 where it's supposed to be.
Tell me how again that they gained cap space?

- bobbyisno1



They're at 83 or whatever now with those 2 guys but them on ltir and they now have 10.55 or something. Is it that difficult to understand.

There is lots out there from people who know more than you talking about this and laying out how it works. Is it really that hard to do a little research.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
Still not a cap cause both Horton and clarkson won't be on the cap, that will be the payroll.
Leafs still only have the 10.5, maybe more now that Sparks is gone.
Leafs are not allowed to go over the cap just like any other team.

- bobbyisno1

The leafs are allowed to go over the cap by the amount of ltir they have. Horton and Clarkson are still on the cap but the leafs are allowed to spend over the cap by how much their cap hit is. So leafs can go over the cap by the amount of their contracts but their contracts eat up that cap space so it's basically like they're not on the team. No benefit beyond that.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:00 PM ET
They're at 83 or whatever now with those 2 guys but them on ltir and they now have 10.55 or something. Is it that difficult to understand.

There is lots out there from people who know more than you talking about this and laying out how it works. Is it really that hard to do a little research.

- burn

They always had the 10.5 is that difficult to understand?
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