Monahans better than nuge.
- HB77

True story there

Monahans better than nuge.
- HB77

His comment seemed to be regarding Arizona, not Calgary.

So Shattenkirk is going to get bought out but I don’t think the Oilers will be an option....too bad tho I would rather roll the dice on him over Russell

So Shattenkirk is going to get bought out but I don’t think the Oilers will be an option....too bad tho I would rather roll the dice on him over Russell
- RatedR80

Meh...

I’d rather have neither.

Monahans better than nuge.
- HB77

Facts.

His comment seemed to be regarding Arizona, not Calgary.
- MaximumBone

My bad then.

- MaximumBone

- EdmHockeyMan

What the (frank)?

Explain yourself Bone.

What the (frank)?

Explain yourself Bone.
- Wildschwein

After looking into it, I just realized he had always set his favorite team to that since like forever. lol

Monahans better than nuge.
- HB77

Usually agree, but this is debatable. Monny provides more 1st half production. Nuge provides more complete game season long. I would call them even.

This is gonna become common again....

- wreckage

So Shattenkirk is going to get bought out but I don’t think the Oilers will be an option....too bad tho I would rather roll the dice on him over Russell
- RatedR80

They'll likely buy out Brendan Smith. I remember when Red Wings fans were so excited about him. All the tools and no tool box. I still can't figure out why the Rangers signed him to that ridiculous contract.

Monahans better than nuge.
- HB77

I would take Nuge over Monahan any day.

Give Monahan the quality of wingers Nuge is given and let’s see what happens.

Also at least Nuge has a large amount of utility playing away from the puck. I don’t think Monahan can hold a candle to Nuge defensively and I don’t think their offensive value is a huge gap especially considering the typical quality of line mates.

I would love to see Monahan carry a second line with Lucic and Chiasson. Hell, I’d love to even see Monahan separated from Gaudreau at all.

I would take Nuge over Monahan any day.

Give Monahan the quality of wingers Nuge is given and let’s see what happens.

Also at least Nuge has a large amount of utility playing away from the puck. I don’t think Monahan can hold a candle to Nuge defensively and I don’t think their offensive value is a huge gap especially considering the typical quality of line mates.

I would love to see Monahan carry a second line with Lucic and Chiasson. Hell, I’d love to even see Monahan separated from Gaudreau at all.
- RonPielep

I would love to see Nuge carry that same line.

I would take Nuge over Monahan any day.

Give Monahan the quality of wingers Nuge is given and let’s see what happens.

Also at least Nuge has a large amount of utility playing away from the puck. I don’t think Monahan can hold a candle to Nuge defensively and I don’t think their offensive value is a huge gap especially considering the typical quality of line mates.

I would love to see Monahan carry a second line with Lucic and Chiasson. Hell, I’d love to even see Monahan separated from Gaudreau at all.
- RonPielep

I'm in the Monohan over Nuge camp due to how Monahan has proven himself to be consistent and durable. Not to mention it seemed like he made a big jump in terms of development this past year.

However, I looked into your last statement regarding his playtime with Gaudreau... and holy poop. Monahan's advanced metrics get (frank)ed up when playing without Gaudreau. His most common partner is Gaudreau too. That may be a telling sign of his own capabilities.

5v5 this past season:
https://www.naturalstattr...type=2&stdoi=oi&rate=&v=t

Even strength this past season:
https://www.naturalstattr...te=n&v=t&playerid=8477497


Now, I'm actually questioning my initial position.

I'm in the Monohan over Nuge camp due to how Monahan has proven himself to be consistent and durable. Not to mention it seemed like he made a big jump in terms of development this past year.

However, I looked into your last statement regarding his playtime with Gaudreau... and holy poop. Monahan's advanced metrics get (frank)ed up when playing without Gaudreau. His most common partner is Gaudreau too. That may be a telling sign of his own capabilities.

5v5 this past season:
https://www.naturalstattr...type=2&stdoi=oi&rate=&v=t

Even strength this past season:
https://www.naturalstattr...te=n&v=t&playerid=8477497


Now, I'm actually questioning my initial position.
- EdmHockeyMan

Unfortunately I can’t get the links to work, thus I’m going on the assumption that the numbers you’re trying to share are only for this season only.

What do the numbers look like when RNH and Monahan each centred wingers of comparable worth, namely Hall and Gaudreau?

I’d have forked over a 2nd and 3rd for Gusev.

I'm in the Monohan over Nuge camp due to how Monahan has proven himself to be consistent and durable. Not to mention it seemed like he made a big jump in terms of development this past year.

However, I looked into your last statement regarding his playtime with Gaudreau... and holy poop. Monahan's advanced metrics get (frank)ed up when playing without Gaudreau. His most common partner is Gaudreau too. That may be a telling sign of his own capabilities.

5v5 this past season:
https://www.naturalstattr...type=2&stdoi=oi&rate=&v=t

Even strength this past season:
https://www.naturalstattr...te=n&v=t&playerid=8477497


Now, I'm actually questioning my initial position.
- EdmHockeyMan

There is no questioning that you're wrong

I’d have forked over a 2nd and 3rd for Gusev.
- Wildschwein

plus 4.5 million in cap space that we dont have

plus 4.5 million in cap space that we dont have
- Reveen.

Wouldn’t have been too hard to make the space. Gagner and pick for a lesser pick would have done it.

Wouldn’t have been too hard to make the space. Gagner and pick for a lesser pick would have done it.
- Wildschwein

I have a feeling he might be more Yakupov than Panarin

I have a feeling he might be more Yakupov than Panarin
- Reveen.

Hard to say. I’m thinking he’ll probably top out at 45/50 points per 82.

Guess Gagner could always do the same, provided he gets some gravy PP time.

Hard to say. I’m thinking he’ll probably top out at 45/50 points per 82.

Guess Gagner could always do the same, provided he gets some gravy PP time.
- Wildschwein

Doubt it. Even if he does, Gagner is sure as poop gonna get outscored.

Hard to say. I’m thinking he’ll probably top out at 45/50 points per 82.

Guess Gagner could always do the same, provided he gets some gravy PP time.
- Wildschwein

Im not really sure I have that confidence in him

Doubt it. Even if he does, Gagner is sure as poop gonna get outscored.
- MaximumBone

whats with the Thrashers thing