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blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 30 @ 2:13 PM ET
I haven't taken my kid to a Mets (or any baseball) game since he was a baby, kid is just too hyper. Taking kids I'm sure makes it fun. Only problem with me is I try not to drink in front of my kid. My dad was a pretty bad alcoholic at times and while I've overcome that, I don't want to influence him since it runs in his blood. Baseball without beer errr, it's OK I guess?
- 2sticks1puck


My kid loves going to games arena is less important but has great memories from the garden.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 30 @ 2:14 PM ET
I don't want to pay MSG prices for one. The only time I can really see the team for cheap is when they are in Philly. You can kind of avoid the turnpike most of the way up there, but it can legit cost a ton in tolls. One time I wasn't thinking and took the turnpike all the way from south jersey, I think it was like 40-50 round trip. Just nuts. I'm hesitant on taking my little kid on the subway too.
- 2sticks1puck

Went to Rangers/Canes last year with my Caniac buddy and his son. $110 per seat and we took the train from New Brunswick. Philly is about 1.5 hours, so don't get down there much unless it's to see bands. Subway can be crazy too, haven't had any problems though besides being packed.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
Told you guys, I don't expect anything to happen before tomorrow. I guess that means it could be Shatty that is bought out, since he doesn't have to go through waivers.
- 2sticks1puck

We could only hope Shatty is bought out. The only better thing would be if he was claimed. Maybe a team is willing to pay him the 6.6 but not give up assets for him. We’ll know by 5 PM tomorrow
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
We could only hope Shatty is bought out. The only better thing would be if he was claimed. Maybe a team is willing to pay him the 6.6 but not give up assets for him. We’ll know by 5 PM tomorrow
- nyrangers9479

Strange there hasn't been an announcement.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
You and I have much different opinions on the rebuild. I would never have signed Panarin, which has put us in this position and continued to the rebuild with the draft and acquired assets and let these awful contracts expire in 2 yrs along with Hanks contract coming off the books..

But since we are in this position now we are in trouble. Trading anyone of the three has to be out because I think if there was a deal it would have been made already. Other GMs know we are in Cap trouble and I doubt anyone of them will be helping us out.

Is it possible Shatty is claimed? I bet he would be, and then we would lose an asset but gained cap space. Who wants to give away assets though? Bad business practice. Buying out Shatty gives us relief now but a 6 mil cap hit next year so it doesnt even make sense to buy him out since we will be in the same boat next year.

Buying out Smith and Staal isnt enough, so now we have to start to trade players who have substantial value, but at a discount. I dont want to trade CK20. Strome is a good second or third line center at a reasonable 3mil per. Names is someone who had drawn alot of fire to because it was perceived he had a bad year. He had to learn a new system under a new coach which is sometimes hard to do and numbers wise it was a down year, but he did go from playing with Stammer and Kuch to playing with Vessey and Mcleod, but look at the whole year. Names started the season on the bench and in the dog house, scratched a few times to ending the season playing in most game situations. Names earned his ice time that Quinn gave him. It seems like Quinn trusted Names a lot more, that tells me he is a young player who matured and grew. He is a valuable asset but yet another player who might be sold off for less than market value.

The thing is the big three players were available for months and werent traded for one reason or another. Thats not a good sign. So we will be eating poop sandwiches I think.

How would I do it if I was thrown into this situation? Id have to make trades that I dont want to make.

We will know soon enough what JG has up his sleeve

- Brukie

I mean i can understand people being hesitant about accelerating the rebuild, but its not every year a generational player like Kakko falls in your lap, one of the top 10 scorers since he entered the league is a free agent and you trade for a top paring RH D man in his mid 20s. Now that we are here, have to do whatever we can to cut some of this dead weight. Honestly if it was me, I would look strong and hard about getting rid of Hank but that isn't an option. Staal/Shatty one or both have to go.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:29 PM ET
We could only hope Shatty is bought out. The only better thing would be if he was claimed. Maybe a team is willing to pay him the 6.6 but not give up assets for him. We’ll know by 5 PM tomorrow
- nyrangers9479


As much as I want to remain optimistic I think if anyone was willing to pay $6.6 NY would give them Shatty and a 5th rd pick in exchange for a 6th and make it more than free. Maybe there are teams willing but the NMC crosses them off the list
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 2:31 PM ET
I mean i can understand people being hesitant about accelerating the rebuild, but its not every year a generational player like Kakko falls in your lap, one of the top 10 scorers since he entered the league is a free agent and you trade for a top paring RH D man in his mid 20s. Now that we are here, have to do whatever we can to cut some of this dead weight. Honestly if it was me, I would look strong and hard about getting rid of Hank but that isn't an option. Staal/Shatty one or both have to go.
- TPC


same, and agree 100% on shatty and staal - and smith too obviously
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
I mean i can understand people being hesitant about accelerating the rebuild, but its not every year a generational player like Kakko falls in your lap, one of the top 10 scorers since he entered the league is a free agent and you trade for a top paring RH D man in his mid 20s. Now that we are here, have to do whatever we can to cut some of this dead weight. Honestly if it was me, I would look strong and hard about getting rid of Hank but that isn't an option. Staal/Shatty one or both have to go.
- TPC


Kakko isn’t generational. Mcdavid is and kakko is no mcdavid. Either is Hughes
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
Kakko isn’t generational. Mcdavid is and kakko is no mcdavid. Either is Hughes
- nyrangers2

I am high on him. Going to let his play on the ice prove me right or wrong.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
I mean i can understand people being hesitant about accelerating the rebuild, but its not every year a generational player like Kakko falls in your lap, one of the top 10 scorers since he entered the league is a free agent and you trade for a top paring RH D man in his mid 20s. Now that we are here, have to do whatever we can to cut some of this dead weight. Honestly if it was me, I would look strong and hard about getting rid of Hank but that isn't an option. Staal/Shatty one or both have to go.
- TPC


It's been a really great summer for Rangers fans. Maybe we should all go check out the Wild or Sens boards for a while to find out what real struggles look like
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
I mean i can understand people being hesitant about accelerating the rebuild, but its not every year a generational player like Kakko falls in your lap, one of the top 10 scorers since he entered the league is a free agent and you trade for a top paring RH D man in his mid 20s. Now that we are here, have to do whatever we can to cut some of this dead weight. Honestly if it was me, I would look strong and hard about getting rid of Hank but that isn't an option. Staal/Shatty one or both have to go.
- TPC

Bravo!
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 30 @ 2:40 PM ET
It's been a really great summer for Rangers fans. Maybe we should all go check out the Wild or Sens boards for a while to find out what real struggles look like
- Maskdman3


Sens just got Cally, plan the parade!
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 30 @ 2:45 PM ET

Sens just got Cally, plan the parade!

- Fenrir



They got his contract, he has a problem with getting old
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:55 PM ET

Sens just got Cally, plan the parade!

- Fenrir


...and that has been the highlight of their summer
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:22 PM ET
this guy would eat Jack Hughes for breakfast


- jimbro83

I remember when he was Ottawa’s gm. Didn’t he draft a dead guy ?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jul 30 @ 3:24 PM ET
I remember when he was Ottawa’s gm. Didn’t he draft a dead guy ?
- way out west


That whole Ottawa draft was a s**t show. They drafted players that had already been drafted too.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 30 @ 3:24 PM ET
I remember when he was Ottawa’s gm. Didn’t he draft a dead guy ?
- way out west


evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:35 PM ET
Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
BREAKING:
@TheAthleticMIN

has learned that Paul Fenton has been fired as #mnwild GM after just one season

- jimbro83


Thank God Zuke got paid but I cannot imagine the next GM being happy with that contract at all.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 30 @ 3:38 PM ET
Thank God Zuke got paid but I cannot imagine the next GM being happy with that contract at all.
- evitageN


they are definitely the NHL's most boring team, and Zucc will definitely change that for them
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
they are definitely the NHL's most boring team, and Zucc will definitely change that for them
- jimbro83


we have had 0 luck against them for years so boring yes, but they always seem to have the rangers number
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
I saw on the Wild blog earlier someone floating the idea of moving Parise and worrying about the perceptions to the fans

A 35yr old with spotty injury history signed for 7.5M for another 6 years...good luck moving that contract.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jul 30 @ 4:24 PM ET
I saw on the Wild blog earlier someone floating the idea of moving Parise and worrying about the perceptions to the fans

A 35yr old with spotty injury history signed for 7.5M for another 6 years...good luck moving that contract.

- Maskdman3



Suters' contract is just as bad and he is only a year younger than Parise. WOOF!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 30 @ 4:29 PM ET

Arthur Staple
@StapeAthletic
·

Very much after the fact, of course... my understanding is #Isles were in the mix for Gusev but weren't so hot on the contract ask.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
Arthur Staple
@StapeAthletic
·

Very much after the fact, of course... my understanding is #Isles were in the mix for Gusev but weren't so hot on the contract ask.

- jimbro83


Isn't that always Lou's MO, I mean all his years in Jersey, the only star he went out to sign was Kovulchuck. Gomez wasn't resigned the are others but like I said this is his MO
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Arthur Staple
@StapeAthletic
·

Very much after the fact, of course... my understanding is #Isles were in the mix for Gusev but weren't so hot on the contract ask.

- jimbro83

Like I said earlier, he'll probably fall short of expectations, but will still be a decent player. $4.5M isn't a deadly contract, but I'd rather have Buch (poor comp, I know, but both are Russian so ) every day of the week.
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