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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
Based on the Rangers' history, they should never sign big name UFAs. The only one I can think of that worked out was Wayne Gretzky and I guess Chris Druery to a lesser extent.

Look at their history:
Fleury, Holik, Gomez, Redden, Richards, and now Shattenkirk.

It has to leave you a little worried about Artemi Panarin.

- CardiffGiant


oh man you're an idiot
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
"classic americans" what the hell does that even mean, half the league is struggling with the cap right now


- jimbro83



Just a dumb statement. I guess Canadians don't do the same?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Based on the Rangers' history, they should never sign big name UFAs. The only one I can think of that worked out was Wayne Gretzky and I guess Chris Druery to a lesser extent.

Look at their history:
Fleury, Holik, Gomez, Redden, Richards, and now Shattenkirk.

It has to leave you a little worried about Artemi Panarin.

- CardiffGiant


Well, I generally don't believe in making decisions based on player(s) not working out in the past. The Rangers have had some misses no doubt, but Gomez turned into Ryan McDonagh, so it's hard not to view that overall transaction as a success. And hell, not only did he turn into Ryan McDonagh, but he also probably turned into Marion Gaborik, as the Rangers signed him with the free cap space the next day.

And then, Gaborik, who scored 40 goals twice with the Rangers turned into Brassard, who ultimately turned into Zibanjed.

The fruits of those unrestricted free agent trees were pretty darn good actually. And are still paying dividends for the Rangers.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
Based on the Rangers' history, they should never sign big name UFAs. The only one I can think of that worked out was Wayne Gretzky and I guess Chris Druery to a lesser extent.

Look at their history:
Fleury, Holik, Gomez, Redden, Richards, and now Shattenkirk.

It has to leave you a little worried about Artemi Panarin.

- CardiffGiant



First off, explain to me how Gomez was a failure. Second, you forgot Gaborik.

Richards wasn't atrocious but didn't come close to what he was paid. No excuses for Redden, Fleury and Holik. Jury still kind of out on Shattenkirk. Drury was worse than Gomez.

Panarin is better than all of the guys mentioned. Not really worried about him. I was not crazy about Drury or Gomez. Super excited for Gaborik and Richards but only one of those worked out. It's a risk, doesn't always pay off.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 29 @ 11:52 AM ET
Based on the Rangers' history, they should never sign big name UFAs. The only one I can think of that worked out was Wayne Gretzky and I guess Chris Druery to a lesser extent.

Look at their history:
Fleury, Holik, Gomez, Redden, Richards, and now Shattenkirk.

It has to leave you a little worried about Artemi Panarin.

- CardiffGiant

OMG
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jul 29 @ 12:03 PM ET
hmmmm, I seem to remember Toronto having to trade a first round pick this year to get rid of Marleau

what city is Toronto in?

anyone?

- jimbro83


You might want to proof read before attempting to burn someone!!
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:04 PM ET
You might want to proof read before attempting to burn someone!!
- Tonybere



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:06 PM ET
You might want to proof read before attempting to burn someone!!
- Tonybere


HAHAHAHAHA

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 29 @ 12:10 PM ET
HAHAHAHAHA


- jimbro83

Thought I didn't get the point of that argument.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
not gonna claim I knew a whole lot of Kris Knoblauch but before he was an assistant in Philly he had nice career coaching in OHL and WHL
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jul 29 @ 12:13 PM ET
Nils Lundkvist injured his leg in game vs USA and will miss remainder of tournament...
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jul 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
So, Mets fans. What can you tell me about Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson???
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
So, Mets fans. What can you tell me about Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson???
- Tonybere

They're probably tainted like the rest of that organization
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jul 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
They're probably tainted like the rest of that organization
- eichiefs9

Well, that is unlikely to change by making trades with the Blue Jays!!!
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
I dyed my hair to the salt and pepper Pete V rocks, I am the voice of reason while he travels around the country with teenage girls
- TPC


How do we know Pete V looks like? Also I hope you're referring to his children?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
Well, that is unlikely to change by making trades with the Blue Jays!!!
- Tonybere



I was really hoping the Yankees landed Stroman. Their starting pitching has been, uh...a giant flaming abortion lately, to put it as delicate as I can
Blueshirts16
New York Rangers
Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY
Joined: 07.28.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:42 PM ET
Based on the Rangers' history, they should never sign big name UFAs. The only one I can think of that worked out was Wayne Gretzky and I guess Chris Druery to a lesser extent.

Look at their history:
Fleury, Holik, Gomez, Redden, Richards, and now Shattenkirk.

It has to leave you a little worried about Artemi Panarin.

- CardiffGiant


I liked Theo a lot as a Ranger.
He can to the Rangers at 32 years old and put up 64, 74, and 63 points. Plus he was effective in other ways.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jul 29 @ 12:46 PM ET


I was really hoping the Yankees landed Stroman. Their starting pitching has been, uh...a giant flaming abortion lately, to put it as delicate as I can

- eichiefs9


I hope they keep that up. Just betting the over in Yankees games is making me $$$$. That's at least 7 games in a row.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
How do we know Pete V looks like? Also I hope you're referring to his children?
- evitageN


This is how I picture PeteV and nothing will convince me otherwise

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
I hope they keep that up. Just betting the over in Yankees games is making me $$$$. That's at least 7 games in a row.
- 2sticks1puck

Things should stabilize for them shortly. They have to get through another four game (in three days) series with the Sox at home after two at home against Arizona and then they get Orioles for three, Jays for four, Orioles for four (consecutively), and also have 5 against the A's and three against the Mariners at the end of the month. Plus they should, hopefully, significantly improve their rotation before the deadline.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
This is how I picture PeteV and nothing will convince me otherwise


- mdw7413

Pete is Greek, that picture isn't hairy enough
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
This is how I picture PeteV and nothing will convince me otherwise


- mdw7413


I am friends with him on LinkedIn and I can verify this is exactly what he looks like
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
I am friends with him on LinkedIn and I can verify this is exactly what he looks like
- jimbro83

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
Pete is Greek, that picture isn't hairy enough
- eichiefs9



eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 12:57 PM ET

- JRR1285

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