Dadonov played North American hockey at AHL and NHL levels from 2009 to 2012 then left for 5 years to get his poop together, and also the organization was aweful at that time.
- aecliptic

I get what you are saying, most of the guys who are good enough, come over much earlier. I don't think you can discount the guys who play for a number of seasons and then come over even if they are in their early 20s. If Gusev is a bust, all the better for us. I just think he's a unique case. It's possible he's a basket case like Shipachov and the moment the coach wants him to work on something he quits.

I get what you are saying, most of the guys who are good enough, come over much earlier. I don't think you can discount the guys who play for a number of seasons and then come over even if they are in their early 20s. If Gusev is a bust, all the better for us. I just think he's a unique case. It's possible he's a basket case like Shipachov and the moment the coach wants him to work on something he quits.
- 2sticks1puck

He’ll probably fall somewhere in the middle. The mystique is probably inflating expectations, but he’ll still be a decent player. My guess is somewhere near 35 points.

He’ll probably fall somewhere in the middle. The mystique is probably inflating expectations, but he’ll still be a decent player. My guess is somewhere near 35 points.
- Bean_Dip

https://www.capfriendly.com/depth-charts/devils

Cap friendly thinks Gusev will play wing. I totally forgot about Zacha being on the team. I dunno, if he does play with Hughes (you have to think Hughes will be line 1), he's going to get a decent amount of points if only by accident.

I get what you are saying, most of the guys who are good enough, come over much earlier. I don't think you can discount the guys who play for a number of seasons and then come over even if they are in their early 20s. If Gusev is a bust, all the better for us. I just think he's a unique case. It's possible he's a basket case like Shipachov and the moment the coach wants him to work on something he quits.
- 2sticks1puck

But thats the point Im making is hes not in his early 20s, hes in his late 20s. Its very likely that hes set in his ways. Im not saying hes gonna be terrible, or unproductive, just not drinking the koolaid thinking he can replicate his success in Russia to NA hockey ‘just like that’.

https://www.capfriendly.com/depth-charts/devils

Cap friendly thinks Gusev will play wing. I totally forgot about Zacha being on the team. I dunno, if he does play with Hughes (you have to think Hughes will be line 1), he's going to get a decent amount of points if only by accident.
- 2sticks1puck

This is very true.

Pretty sure Gusev is a LW.

This is very true.

Pretty sure Gusev is a LW.
- aecliptic

What's funny is it has Simmonds as the RW on the line. Only thing that came to my mind is "One of these things is not like the others"

https://www.capfriendly.com/depth-charts/devils

Cap friendly thinks Gusev will play wing. I totally forgot about Zacha being on the team. I dunno, if he does play with Hughes (you have to think Hughes will be line 1), he's going to get a decent amount of points if only by accident.
- 2sticks1puck

I don't have to think that. From all reports, it is going to take time before Hughes becomes what is expected of him. I would be surprised if he elevates his game to the point where he is playing against the leagues best right away.

I don't have to think that. From all reports, it is going to take time before Hughes becomes what is expected of him. I would be surprised if he elevates his game to the point where he is playing against the leagues best right away.
- Tonybere

- jimbro83

Rangers going to ride out this buyout train till tomorrow I guess

Rangers going to ride out this buyout train till tomorrow I guess
- TPC

I think they gotta put a buyout guy on waivers and that would be at noon today

I think they gotta put a buyout guy on waivers and that would be at noon today
- jimbro83

So who is the consensus player to be bought out?

I don't have to think that. From all reports, it is going to take time before Hughes becomes what is expected of him. I would be surprised if he elevates his game to the point where he is playing against the leagues best right away.
- Tonybere

No way he steps in like a McDavid, Matthews, etc. I could see him putting up 45 pts. or so?

I think they gotta put a buyout guy on waivers and that would be at noon today
- jimbro83

So looks like all the action will pick up at noon

So who is the consensus player to be bought out?
- rrentz

I dont think there is a consensus, personally the reasons that Larry Brooks spelled out about why it should be Shatty I 100% agree with

So who is the consensus player to be bought out?
- rrentz

I think Smith has to be the favorite. Zero trade value, the dead cap issue isn't that much of a big deal. So Jim mentioned waivers. What happens is someone actually claimed the player? Do they just get them? Or can that player refuse to report and screw us out of a buyout?

No way he steps in like a McDavid, Matthews, etc. I could see him putting up 45 pts. or so?
- rrentz

I don't think he will ever be one of those guys. Hirschner has put up 52 pts and 47 pts, I don't think that is a huge barrier for Hughes taking the 1C spot. I feel like if he's not 1C by midseason, that's more of an indictment on Hughes if anything.

I dont think there is a consensus, personally the reasons that Larry Brooks spelled out about why it should be Shatty I 100% agree with
- jimbro83

calling saver names got me banned LOL, his writing is still drivel... anyway I think Shatty is the way to go.

I think Smith has to be the favorite. Zero trade value, the dead cap issue isn't that much of a big deal. So Jim mentioned waivers. What happens is someone actually claimed the player? Do they just get them? Or can that player refuse to report and screw us out of a buyout?
- 2sticks1puck

then they get the player and we are off the hook

then they get the player and we are off the hook
- jimbro83

I would imagine the Rangers will put Shatty, Smith, Staal and Nam all on waivers today. Then make a final decision tomorrow

I think Smith has to be the favorite. Zero trade value, the dead cap issue isn't that much of a big deal. So Jim mentioned waivers. What happens is someone actually claimed the player? Do they just get them? Or can that player refuse to report and screw us out of a buyout?
- 2sticks1puck

Celebrations in Ranger country ensue

I would imagine the Rangers will put Shatty, Smith, Staal and Nam all on waivers today. Then make a final decision tomorrow
- TPC

No way this years captain goes on waivers

No way this years captain goes on waivers
- mdw7413

I'm at a loss which one do you think is the captain?

I would imagine the Rangers will put Shatty, Smith, Staal and Nam all on waivers today. Then make a final decision tomorrow
- TPC

That would be a smart decision. Although, people on here would lose their crap, I'd put Strome on waivers too. A non zero chance he would actually get claimed and that's a free 3.1 million in cap space. If you wanted to buyout Shatty, that would help a ton for next season.

No way this years captain goes on waivers
- mdw7413

It doesn't really mean anything, just keeps the option for a buyout open