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SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:49 AM ET
I figured it would be in the 1.7 to 2 mil range
- homiedclown

for a back up goalie i think that is a reasonable contract in the NHL right now.. he isn't a great back up but he can be serviceable and has shown flashes
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:49 AM ET
who the f@ck cares


seriously, my guess is nobody



- homiedclown

2nd this
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:49 AM ET
Hey give me more credit ..


- gerbe75pts

when you go to work with a lunch box, then you get credit




gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:50 AM ET

- SabresFaninIndiana


You would do the same
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 31 @ 9:50 AM ET
This isn't what the team would give him in contract negotiations, though.
- Powerslave


I get it, but that is no raise from what he made last year. (Cap hit was 750 made 800k)



I’m surprised it is that low.

If all 4 Sabres go to arb that’s more than the rest of the NHL Combined. Botts gotta be careful about low balling players. May not be a good look.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:50 AM ET
You would do the same
- gerbe75pts

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 31 @ 9:51 AM ET


Did I make it yes or no

- gerbe75pts


Too many carbs
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:51 AM ET
when you go to work with a lunch box, then you get credit





- homiedclown


Does anyone really carry lunchboxes anymore ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:52 AM ET
Too many carbs
- Der Kaiser

go suck on a 10 inch dill
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:52 AM ET
Too many carbs
- Der Kaiser


Yep ... at least it’s not gluten free

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:52 AM ET
Does anyone really carry lunchboxes anymore ?
- gerbe75pts

yes responsible husbands
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:54 AM ET
I get it, but that is no raise from what he made last year. (Cap hit was 750 made 800k)



I’m surprised it is that low.

If all 4 Sabres go to arb that’s more than the rest of the NHL Combined. Botts gotta be careful about low balling players. May not be a good look.

- ImThatGuy

the big thing, ullmark and e-rod never should have gotten to arbitration

pretty easy to figure out where both land


mccabe, I kind of get it, could be a 2 mil guy, could be a 3.3 mil guy



Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 31 @ 9:55 AM ET
I get it, but that is no raise from what he made last year. (Cap hit was 750 made 800k)



I’m surprised it is that low.

If all 4 Sabres go to arb that’s more than the rest of the NHL Combined. Botts gotta be careful about low balling players. May not be a good look.

- ImThatGuy



He's not low balling players.

He's simply retaining their rights via the qualifying offer.

It was the player who chose the arbitration.
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Jul 31 @ 9:56 AM ET
Does anyone really carry lunchboxes anymore ?
- gerbe75pts


Not a lunch box exactly, but I bring lunch mostly every day in a small cooler. I eat in front of my laptop while I work. I go out or buy lunch occasionally, but the more time I spend doing that, the longer my day is. Someday you'll understand. Maybe.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 31 @ 9:59 AM ET
the big thing, ullmark and e-rod never should have gotten to arbitration

pretty easy to figure out where both land


mccabe, I kind of get it, could be a 2 mil guy, could be a 3.3 mil guy

- homiedclown



Qualifying offers must have been accepted by July 1st.

Arbitration filings had to be in July 5th.

That's no time to negotiate a contract.

This mentality that Botterill is "low balling" players is just not correct.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:00 AM ET
He's not low balling players.

He's simply retaining their rights via the qualifying offer.

It was the player who chose the arbitration.

- Powerslave


How is he not lowballing here? Team offered a number with technically no raise.

why are there more Sabres players filing than the rest of the NHL combined.

That doesn’t seem odd to you?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:01 AM ET
Qualifying offers must have been accepted by July 1st.

Arbitration filings had to be in July 5th.

That's no time to negotiate a contract.

This mentality that Botterill is "low balling" players is just not correct.

- Powerslave


They can negotiate a contract all year and right after the season ends. So the little time thing is not correct.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:02 AM ET
Not a lunch box exactly, but I bring lunch mostly every day in a small cooler. I eat in front of my laptop while I work. I go out or buy lunch occasionally, but the more time I spend doing that, the longer my day is. Someday you'll understand. Maybe.
- Chris16


I’ll just take some one else lunch that has do not eat on it ( that guy)
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:07 AM ET
How is he not lowballing here? Team offered a number with technically no raise.

why are there more Sabres players filing than the rest of the NHL combined.

That doesn’t seem odd to you?

- ImThatGuy



The team merely extended the QO to retain their rights. If they don't, they lose the player. There's no low balling. Every team in the league extends QO's to their RFA's to retain their rights.

Maybe the player wanted to go to arbitration all along. Felt he had a better chance to make more.

This assumption that he's playing hard ball is just that, assumption.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:07 AM ET
They can negotiate a contract all year and right after the season ends. So the little time thing is not correct.
- ImThatGuy

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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:08 AM ET
They can negotiate a contract all year and right after the season ends. So the little time thing is not correct.
- ImThatGuy



Why are you assuming it's the TEAM?

Perhaps the player had arb in their sights the whole time.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:09 AM ET

This mentality that Botterill is "low balling" players is just not correct.

- Powerslave

offering Ullmark 750 K is textbook definition of low balling

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 31 @ 10:10 AM ET
The team merely extended the QO to retain their rights. If they don't, they lose the player. There's no low balling. Every team in the league extends QO's to their RFA's to retain their rights.

Maybe the player wanted to go to arbitration all along. Felt he had a better chance to make more.

This assumption that he's playing hard ball is just that, assumption.

- Powerslave


Botts didn't qualify Wilson and then he signed him. Should have done the same with Elie imo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:10 AM ET
They can negotiate a contract all year and right after the season ends. So the little time thing is not correct.
- ImThatGuy

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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:10 AM ET
this
- homiedclown



Without knowing who their signings are going to be? Who they're trading for? What THOSE contracts are going to be?

Please.

That's a great way to hamstring yourself into cap trouble, by negotiating with non essential players in-season.
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