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- homiedclown

See above

"Low-Balling" is when the proposer has no justification for a lower priced proposal. Usually when the offering is commanding the seller to accept a lower than asking price for the property without the aid of a Value Added Realtor, it can be construed as very offensive and disrespectful

Without knowing who their signings are going to be? Who they're trading for? What THOSE contracts are going to be?

Please.

That's a great way to hamstring yourself into cap trouble, by negotiating with non essential players in-season.
- Powerslave

locking up e-rod at 2 per and ullmark at 1.7 per to be the backup goalie is not what hamstrings the sabres cap

it's the
scandella, okposo, sobotka, hunwick, bogos that handcuff them

1/4 of our cap is
scandella, okposo, sobotka, hunwick and bogo
21.5 mil

locking up e-rod at 2 per and ullmark at 1.7 per to be the backup goalie is not what hamstrings the sabres cap

it's the
scandella, okposo, sobotka, hunwick, bogos that handcuff them
- homiedclown

Or just generally having 12 defensemen

locking up e-rod at 2 per and ullmark at 1.7 per to be the backup goalie is not what hamstrings the sabres cap

it's the
scandella, okposo, sobotka, hunwick, bogos that handcuff them
- homiedclown

Erod is the next Erik Condra.

No matter how much people say he’s “really good” he will be a bottom 6 guy for a few years then be out of the league by 30.

As someone who completely respects his underlying numbers, he’s just not a guy who’s ever going to have a defined role/position

locking up e-rod at 2 per and ullmark at 1.7 per to be the backup goalie is not what hamstrings the sabres cap

it's the
scandella, okposo, sobotka, hunwick, bogos that handcuff them
- homiedclown

Giving yourself flexibility for a longer period is what he did by not signing them to deals mid-season.

And, really, why does it matter to the two of you when these players are signed?

As someone who completely respects his underlying numbers, he’s just not a guy who’s ever going to have a defined role/position
- sbroads24

I don't know what we have in e-rod due to clueless coaching over the last few years


could be a decent 3rd liner who can move up in a pinch

could be an energy 4th liner that pk's

Erod is the next Erik Condra.

No matter how much people say he’s “really good” he will be a bottom 6 guy for a few years then be out of the league by 30.

As someone who completely respects his underlying numbers, he’s just not a guy who’s ever going to have a defined role/position
- sbroads24

He's a 4C PK guy who can play up a couple lines at any position if needed.

There you go, position defined

Giving yourself flexibility for a longer period is what he did by not signing them to deals mid-season.

And, really, why does it matter to the two of you when these players are signed?
- Powerslave

just keep low balling these guys and watch the sabres get a worse reputation then they already have



terry needs to drill that well as it is becoming clear the money is no object anymore for the sabres was a lie

just keep low balling these guys and watch the sabres get a worse reputation then they already have



terry needs to drill that well as it is becoming clear the money is no object anymore for the sabres was a lie
- homiedclown

I feel like this would make more sense if the Sabres hadn't just paid skinner $72m

This is all about the cap crunch and Botterill not wanting to clear redundant and useless players without getting a "value" return back, whatever the hell that means

Get rid of three useless players and the penny pinching is unnecessary. Or Botterill is just bored

I get it, but that is no raise from what he made last year. (Cap hit was 750 made 800k)



I’m surprised it is that low.

If all 4 Sabres go to arb that’s more than the rest of the NHL Combined. Botts gotta be careful about low balling players. May not be a good look.
- ImThatGuy

Players might not want to sign in Buffalo?

Maybe you carry 11 nhl defenseman as a back up plan, and look at trades to build a team?

just keep low balling these guys and watch the sabres get a worse reputation then they already have



terry needs to drill that well as it is becoming clear the money is no object anymore for the sabres was a lie
- homiedclown

They're 3 million from the cap ceiling. Regardless of how they got there (Murray, Botterill, the tooth fairy), they're not low balling players, and that's certainly NOT a recent reputation this organization has and you know it.

You would do the same
- gerbe75pts

Ha

i have been married for 12 years.. if my wife asked me to make her ravioli at 8:30 in the morning i would text her a link to a mapping thing that showed her how to get to an italian restaurant because we both would have been at work for at least an hour..

Does anyone really carry lunchboxes anymore ?
- gerbe75pts

almost every day i carry in my cooler with lunch

I feel like this would make more sense if the Sabres hadn't just paid skinner $72m

This is all about the cap crunch and Botterill not wanting to clear redundant and useless players without getting a "value" return back, whatever the hell that means

Get rid of three useless players and the penny pinching is unnecessary. Or Botterill is just bored
- jcragcrumple

Penny pinching by 50-a few hundred k on 5-10 low level players can open up an extra mil or two for a player that matters.

This is Botts specialty. He’s undeniably good at managing the salary cap

They're 3 million from the cap ceiling. Regardless of how they got there (Murray, Botterill, the tooth fairy), they're not low balling players, and that's certainly NOT a recent reputation this organization has and you know it.
- Powerslave

Don't you remember when they lowballed Skinner?!?!?!,fdabfldakbfdkal

almost every day i carry in my cooler with lunch
- SabresFaninIndiana

Nerd

woken up to make Raviolis because he told you to 😑
- gerbe75pts

fixed it for you.... the truth will set you free Gerbe's

offering Ullmark 750 K is textbook definition of low balling
- homiedclown

yeah.. he isn't not a great goalie but i gotta think a full time nhl back up should get at least 1.5 mil

almost every day i carry in my cooler with lunch
- SabresFaninIndiana

same here

Penny pinching by 50-a few hundred k on 5-10 low level players can open up an extra mil or two for a player that matters.

This is Botts specialty. He’s undeniably good at managing the salary cap
- sbroads24

Yeah, those Scandella, Sobotka and Hunwick contracts are great.

I know, Terry made Botterill take Sobotka in a trade. He's always been one of Terry's favorites

Why are you assuming it's the TEAM?

Perhaps the player had arb in their sights the whole time.
- Powerslave

Do you think ellie, erod , McCabe and ullmark formed a players "pack or union".

I know your excited about the concert a week from Tuesday, but ........ 4 guys leans towards a team issue

How many arbitrations has jbotts had since he was hired?

Yeah, those Scandella, Sobotka and Hunwick contracts are great.

I know, Terry made Botterill take Sobotka in a trade. He's always been one of Terry's favorites
- jcragcrumple

You win some, you lose some.

Yeah, those Scandella, Sobotka and Hunwick contracts are great.

I know, Terry made Botterill take Sobotka in a trade. He's always been one of Terry's favorites
- jcragcrumple

You realize he signed none of those right?

You win some, you lose some.
- Powerslave

He must be perfect at all times or he will be smited.