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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:26 PM ET
https://hockey-graphs.com...scoring-than-corsi-goals/

I do know what you mean. But you're comparing a ball of dough (corsi) to a full blown, fresh pizza.

Or juniper berries to gin. Whatever.

- TheSabresTaco


Isn’t expected goals based off Corsi numbers though?

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
You are probably closer to the truth than not.
Before the end of the season, with about 15 games left to go, I had projected them to finish at 72 pts...using some of the logic that Stripes is proposing...i.e., replacing the 10 game streak with a w/l/t ratio representative of the whole 67 games played to that point, and the same with the remaining 15 games. The 2 wins in games 81 and 82 fvcked me from being spot on. Meh.

76pts or 72pts isn't significant to waste internet ink over...but, had they lost those 2 games they would have picked 6th instead of 7th...which means nothing since they would have picked Couzins anyway, lol.

All that to say, carry on.

- IonSabres


Competition increased, players were demoralized and the coach had no (frank)ing idea what to do. They managed to blow two other teams out of the water who gave even less (frank)s than the Sabres did, let alone the margin of physical talent. At the end of the season.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
Isn’t expected goals based off Corsi numbers though?
- jdfitz77


Read the link.

Again. Ball of dough is an ingredient of pizza.

Juniper berries is an ingredient of gin.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
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The Buffalo Sabres today announced the team has agreed to terms with forward Remi Elie on a one-year, two-way contract with an average annual value of $700,000.

(link: https://sabresdigitalpres...ree-to-one-year-contract/) sabresdigitalpressbox.com/2019/08/01/sab…

- Stripes77



That there is Greg McKegg money. Hooo boy!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
x-Lb2L/60
- IonSabres


0.5/60. I work fast.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
Competition increased, players were demoralized and the coach had no (frank)ing idea what to do. They managed to blow two other teams out of the water who gave even less (frank)s than the Sabres did, let alone the margin of physical talent. At the end of the season.
- TheSabresTaco


But
Goals scored in March and April are credited at a 1.5 rate.
XGpts/3to4
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
That there is Greg McKegg money. Hooo boy!
- Da_Cashman


Should have just given him $1m, they are working in increments of $500k now, wtf.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
But
Goals scored in March and April are credited at a 1.5 rate.
XGpts/3to4

- IonSabres


I encourage you to publish the science you show right here.

IonDouche's Point Predictor Matrix
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
So Ullmark tomorrow .. $1.6m?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
Read the link.

Again. Ball of dough is an ingredient of pizza.

Juniper berries is an ingredient of gin.

- TheSabresTaco


I hear ya
But it’s still a stat derived from what i consider to be a flawed measure of individual success
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
I hear ya
But it’s still a stat derived from what i consider to be a flawed measure of individual success

- jdfitz77

So what exactly is your point in relation to Gardiner then?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
So Ullmark tomorrow .. $1.6m?
- IonSabres


1.3-1.6 is my guess.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:42 PM ET
I hear ya
But it’s still a stat derived from what i consider to be a flawed measure of individual success

- jdfitz77


This isn't the correct approach.

Some formulas get you close. Some formulas take use of other formulas to get you even closer. That's what xG is to corsi. Corsi is a piece of information it uses in collaboration of other pieces of information. So while you are correct that it uses corsi, corsi is simply one of the derivatives of xG.

That doesn't make it right or wrong. It just makes it more accurate.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Aug 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
[quote=IonSabres]OS eh?
No 3rd round draft pick limits them to contracts values between
$2.1 to $4.2m
And
Over $10.56m


Taking a common sense approach, it won't be the over 10.56m:
1. They'd never give up 4 firsts, they value picks too much, and
2. They'd never trump Captain Jacks' $10m contract.

$2.1 to $4.2 - probably highly doubtful, just another ploy by Ek to get clicks.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
[quote=IonSabres]OS eh?
No 3rd round draft pick limits them to contracts values between
$2.1 to $4.2m
And
Over $10.56m


Taking a common sense approach, it won't be the over 10.56m:
1. They'd never give up 4 firsts, they value picks too much, and
2. They'd never trump Captain Jacks' $10m contract.

$2.1 to $4.2 - probably highly doubtful, just another ploy by Ek to get clicks.

- turbo044


Guys it makes sense for, WC-

Joel Edmundson
Adrian Kempe
Kevin Fiala
Julius Honka, I guess

I geuss the term "prominent" can be debated. E20
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
It's here:

https://deadspin.com/why-...-buffalo-bills-1836879288
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 1 @ 2:59 PM ET
Guys it makes sense for, WC-

Joel Edmundson
Adrian Kempe
Kevin Fiala
Julius Honka, I guess

I geuss the term "prominent" can be debated. E20

- TheSabresTaco


T chuck or bust
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
It's here:

https://deadspin.com/why-...-buffalo-bills-1836879288

- jcragcrumple


I look forward to these every off season.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
I look forward to these every off season.
- TheSabresTaco


I mean the other teams are generally funnier mostly because they have new material

For Buffalo it's usually the same old same old with a few new wrinkles throw in (or dildos)
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
I mean the other teams are generally funnier mostly because they have new material

For Buffalo it's usually the same old same old with a few new wrinkles throw in (or dildos)

- Stripes77



McDermott could win seven Super Bowls with this team and Nathan Peterman will still make him a national punchline.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
I mean the other teams are generally funnier mostly because they have new material

For Buffalo it's usually the same old same old with a few new wrinkles throw in (or dildos)

- Stripes77

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
So what exactly is your point in relation to Gardiner then?
- sbroads24



When has that virus ever had a point?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
Terry Pegula is basically what Ralph Wiggum would be as an adult.


mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 1 @ 3:28 PM ET
if it's another tank, he will be out of a job in 10 months


H6

- homiedclown


Then he only has 2 months to get a legit 2C and RW.

Otherwise this team will finish right around where it did last year.

Not sure if tank, but not really progress either.
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